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Bill Wyman never made any music solo worth to listen to.
Neither did Mick Taylor.
And I personally don't like Mick Jagger's solo efforts either, not even Wandering Spirit.
Ronnie Wood's solo albums are as you can expect: nothing tremendous but good fun.
Keith Richards, on the other hand, made two good to great solo-albums. They contain some weaker material, mainly due to "eighties production" and his voice having its weaknesses, but songs like "Make No Mistake", "Take It So Hard", "Don't Move Me", "Hate It When You Leave", "Wicked As It Seems" not only show he can write great stuff on his own, but also create "his own sound", quite distinct from the Stones. A song like "It Means A lot" and in a different way "Rockawhile" shows his ability to groove. And even relative "filler" like "Will But You Won't" or "Running Too Deep" or "Words of Wonder" grow on you.
So, for me, it's quite clear from whom the most important contribution to the music comes.
Thank God they didn't use Bill Wyman's songs.
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matxil
Bill Wyman never made any music solo worth to listen to.
Neither did Mick Taylor.
And I personally don't like Mick Jagger's solo efforts either, not even Wandering Spirit.
Ronnie Wood's solo albums are as you can expect: nothing tremendous but good fun.
Keith Richards, on the other hand, made two good to great solo-albums. They contain some weaker material, mainly due to "eighties production" and his voice having its weaknesses, but songs like "Make No Mistake", "Take It So Hard", "Don't Move Me", "Hate It When You Leave", "Wicked As It Seems" not only show he can write great stuff on his own, but also create "his own sound", quite distinct from the Stones. A song like "It Means A lot" and in a different way "Rockawhile" shows his ability to groove. And even relative "filler" like "Will But You Won't" or "Running Too Deep" or "Words of Wonder" grow on you.
So, for me, it's quite clear from whom the most important contribution to the music comes.
Thank God they didn't use Bill Wyman's songs.
I think people make a mistake by using Mick and Keith's solo material to judge them as writers for the Stones. Mick has made it clear many times he doesn't try to sound like the Stones on his solo albums. while Keith does try to sound like the Stones. Its not a good comparison.
And while I think Keith's first solo album is the best of all solo albums by Stone members I can't believe you think his second one is better then Wandering Spirit. To me Keith's second solo album was really weak in the song writing department.
To me Jagger might have even wrote more good songs then Richards away from the Stones, but Rickard's played his songs more Stonsish so they sound better to Stones fans.
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the only thing that spoils talk is cheap is the drums are too high in the mix.
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the only thing that spoils talk is cheap is the drums are too high in the mix.
... and the production is horribly overdoen! MOffender sounded much better and more natural but alas the songs were not as good.[/quote
and i think his voice is better on main offender. but i still play talk is cheap more
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I like the sound of TIC, including the loud drums. TIC sounds a bit more unpolished, but still lacks the rawness of TIC, imo.
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I like the sound of TIC, including the loud drums. TIC sounds a bit more unpolished, but still lacks the rawness of TIC, imo.
keith said in an interview once that when he played it to mick jagger. mick said to him the drums are too loud. before that i never noticed. since he said that i keep noticing.
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the only thing that spoils talk is cheap is the drums are too high in the mix.
... and the production is horribly overdoen! MOffender sounded much better and more natural but alas the songs were not as good.
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the only thing that spoils talk is cheap is the drums are too high in the mix.
... and the production is horribly overdoen! MOffender sounded much better and more natural but alas the songs were not as good.
This is an outrage...I'm figuring you think it runs too fast?
Dammit!
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I like the sound of TIC, including the loud drums. TIC sounds a bit more unpolished, but still lacks the rawness of TIC, imo.
keith said in an interview once that when he played it to mick jagger. mick said to him the drums are too loud. before that i never noticed. since he said that i keep noticing.
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DandelionPowderman
I like the sound of TIC, including the loud drums. TIC sounds a bit more unpolished, but still lacks the rawness of TIC, imo.
keith said in an interview once that when he played it to mick jagger. mick said to him the drums are too loud. before that i never noticed. since he said that i keep noticing.
Agree. Bit listen to some girls and parts of Tattoo you, especially neighbours- i can't believe how horrible lud are the drums...
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I like the sound of TIC, including the loud drums. TIC sounds a bit more unpolished, but still lacks the rawness of TIC, imo.
keith said in an interview once that when he played it to mick jagger. mick said to him the drums are too loud. before that i never noticed. since he said that i keep noticing.
Agree. Bit listen to some girls and parts of Tattoo you, especially neighbours- i can't believe how horrible lud are the drums...
Not to mention Dirty Work...
yeah come to think of it your right.
Neighbours has no cymbals?
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I like the sound of TIC, including the loud drums. TIC sounds a bit more unpolished, but still lacks the rawness of TIC, imo.
keith said in an interview once that when he played it to mick jagger. mick said to him the drums are too loud. before that i never noticed. since he said that i keep noticing.
I meant MO sounds a bit more unpolished.
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It's a shame, went to see Fleetwood Mac (with Christine McVie back in the fold) for the second time last night and I'm so glad they have a different attitude to past members than the Stones.
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It's a shame, went to see Fleetwood Mac (with Christine McVie back in the fold) for the second time last night and I'm so glad they have a different attitude to past members than the Stones.
Correct me if I am wrong, but as far as I know they never replaced Christine with someone else either. So having her back did not mean having to tell someone else to leave.
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It's a shame, went to see Fleetwood Mac (with Christine McVie back in the fold) for the second time last night and I'm so glad they have a different attitude to past members than the Stones.
Correct me if I am wrong, but as far as I know they never replaced Christine with someone else either. So having her back did not mean having to tell someone else to leave.