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Re: What does Ronnie´s screenprint "Lucky Man" show?
Posted by: Naturalust ()
Date: March 26, 2015 04:28

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It looks like another eye under the chin, so maybe you're close NL. But I'm probably way off base, never been good at I Spy or Where's Waldo.

lb you see the flame of the lighter dont you?

Yes, but on the other side...it looks like an eye to me. What IS that?

Looks like a chin under the chin....till you take the flame out. This is one of those painting you see better with squinted eyes or from a great distance.

peace

Re: What does Ronnie´s screenprint "Lucky Man" show?
Posted by: massmick ()
Date: March 26, 2015 04:30

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It looks like another eye under the chin, so maybe you're close NL. But I'm probably way off base, never been good at I Spy or Where's Waldo.

lb you see the flame of the lighter dont you?

Yes, but on the other side...it looks like an eye to me. What IS that?


welll....the longer i look at it the more i see, like ronnies thumbnail. That eye looking swirl...maybe part of his hand. im trying to replicate the angle of the hands and whether or not they are both RWs...like a puzzle...cool tho

Re: What does Ronnie´s screenprint "Lucky Man" show?
Posted by: massmick ()
Date: March 26, 2015 04:33

I wanna see what it looks like under black light when my replacement arrives.

Re: What does Ronnie´s screenprint "Lucky Man" show?
Posted by: with sssoul ()
Date: March 26, 2015 10:47

Maybe the eye-looking thing is the body of the cigarette lighter?
(Rich people often have goofy lighters - it's part of what makes them different from you and me)
The non-Ronnie face appears to be blowing on the flame - but why?
And that hand (is it a hand?) looks too big to belong to either of the faces -
is it someone else's, rushing to light Ronnie's joint or whatever he's got?

Pretty far from my favourite Ronnie painting in any case.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2015-03-26 10:50 by with sssoul.

Re: What does Ronnie´s screenprint "Lucky Man" show?
Posted by: latebloomer ()
Date: March 26, 2015 13:04

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with sssoul
Maybe the eye-looking thing is the body of the cigarette lighter?
(Rich people often have goofy lighters - it's part of what makes them different from you and me)
The non-Ronnie face appears to be blowing on the flame - but why?
And that hand (is it a hand?) looks too big to belong to either of the faces -
is it someone else's, rushing to light Ronnie's joint or whatever he's got?

Pretty far from my favourite Ronnie painting in any case.

At least we can mostly all agree about THAT! smiling smiley

Re: What does Ronnie´s screenprint "Lucky Man" show?
Posted by: massmick ()
Date: March 26, 2015 15:50

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with sssoul
Maybe the eye-looking thing is the body of the cigarette lighter?
(Rich people often have goofy lighters - it's part of what makes them different from you and me)
The non-Ronnie face appears to be blowing on the flame - but why?
And that hand (is it a hand?) looks too big to belong to either of the faces -
is it someone else's, rushing to light Ronnie's joint or whatever he's got?

Pretty far from my favourite Ronnie painting in any case.


sssoul...blowing out the flame or sucking in the sweet Alaskan Thunderfuck.

im convinced after todays quick squinted glance that the swoosh in question is the bent index finger of the lighter lighters hand. Put a lighter in your hand and note how your index finger wraps around it...now look at the high spots of the image and how they are all yellow.



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Re: What does Ronnie´s screenprint "Lucky Man" show?
Posted by: runaway ()
Date: March 26, 2015 17:44

I'm not sure...it looks like a woman to me but who? and that's the good thing about it, it leaves it open, makes you think and wonder which is good, I do like the different opinions here.

Re: What does Ronnie´s screenprint "Lucky Man" show?
Posted by: massmick ()
Date: March 26, 2015 18:24

keep seeing more every time i look....it is not a lighter but a book of matches with one sticking out like it was lit with one hand....anyone else now see this?

Re: What does Ronnie´s screenprint "Lucky Man" show?
Posted by: schillid ()
Date: March 26, 2015 19:32

It shows average skill.

Re: What does Ronnie´s screenprint "Lucky Man" show?
Posted by: with sssoul ()
Date: March 26, 2015 20:42

So is the "eye" thing the bowl of a crack pipe? Who is smoking what? And which is holding what
and why do the hands look so deformed? I'm troubled by this image. It's not concrete enough. Take it away.

Re: What does Ronnie´s screenprint "Lucky Man" show?
Posted by: ThankGod ()
Date: March 26, 2015 22:32

I think its a third person holding the lighter with their left hand and lighting Ronnies cigarette. The scene is painted from this third persons perspective, and we see the third persons thumb having just lit the flame, the index and middle finger are coiled around holding the unseen lighter body. The "eye" thing is the fingernail of the index finger. Ronnies oversized right hand is holding his cigarette as one would when one lights up.
Is Mick looking on disapprovingly and trying to blow the lighter out in jest, or is that just his normal pouty look? Would make more sense if he had a cigarette too and was sharing the lighter.

Re: What does Ronnie´s screenprint "Lucky Man" show?
Posted by: schillid ()
Date: March 26, 2015 23:01

I think he's trying to draw a fingers, a lighter, and a flame... not a pipe.
The other figure might be a woman (red lips parted in an "O" shape; earring)


Re: What does Ronnie´s screenprint "Lucky Man" show?
Posted by: massmick ()
Date: March 27, 2015 00:36

it is CLEARLY a book of matches
do you see the straight line?...that is where the cover gets tucked under the sandpaper....or whatever that shit is on a book of matches...i would bet a frontrow ticket on this.



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Re: What does Ronnie´s screenprint "Lucky Man" show?
Posted by: Naturalust ()
Date: March 27, 2015 01:12

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massmick
it is CLEARLY a book of matches
do you see the straight line?...that is where the cover gets tucked under the sandpaper....or whatever that shit is on a book of matches...i would bet a frontrow ticket on this.

When you realize he's holding the flame producer with his left hand, that "eye" looking thing under the flame pretty easily becomes the end of his pointer finger with the finger nail in gray and the rest of the finger in tan. The gray thing below that his middle finger bent at the second knuckle.

Looking at it this way, the flame producer could be either a very small matchbook OR the flip up top of a lighter with the main body of the lighter hidden in his hand. I'm still thinking lighter because of the size, the way he is holding it and that Ronnie is probably more of an expensive lighter kind of guy....I mean what else are you going to give this guy for Christmas and birthdays?

The other figure might be a woman (red lips parted in an "O" shape; earring)

The woman is just as hard to understand. Is it an earring or the highlights of her ear? Does she have red lips parted or mouth closed and chin shown?

peace



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Re: What does Ronnie´s screenprint "Lucky Man" show?
Posted by: massmick ()
Date: March 27, 2015 01:24

yup...the fingers are just as youve described...also the proportionality question of what i see as a matchbook is valid. I cant see a flip top....YET
part of what i see as a matchbook may be hidden Under His Thumb.
makes me want to go VIP so i can axe Ronnie himself at the meet and skeet.

Re: What does Ronnie´s screenprint "Lucky Man" show?
Posted by: eyesoftheworld ()
Date: March 27, 2015 01:26

I don't know about other people on this board but I am very much into Ronnie's artwork.

I'm a big fan.
My whole family are fans, too.

Re: What does Ronnie´s screenprint "Lucky Man" show?
Posted by: massmick ()
Date: March 27, 2015 01:57


Re: What does Ronnie´s screenprint "Lucky Man" show?
Posted by: Naturalust ()
Date: March 27, 2015 02:07

OK massmick, there has to be a story behind that arm art/autograph. Give it up. smoking smiley

Plenty of similar questions about the photo: Black sharpie or tattoo? Underside of left forearm? On top of a Fender amp? Purple instrument cord? lol



peace

Re: What does Ronnie´s screenprint "Lucky Man" show?
Posted by: massmick ()
Date: March 27, 2015 02:29

well i wish it was me lust...its the arm of a very odd fanatic that i met at the 2010 Woodstock NY Bearsville Theater MT show...dude was out there. I forget the story behind it...it was definetly real though and not henna or sharpie. My Ronnie brush with greatness was when he fell out of the woods onto the hood of my car at Longview Farms Recording studio pre tour in 81...wish i had my dash cam back then. Its a weird feeling knowing that, had he fallen under my wheels, history would have been changed and Nils Lofgren might be in the band todaysmiling smiley


i do questioin the WOOD part of the tat...the finishing swoosh does not look like it does nowadays. It almost looks like it says WOODY



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Re: What does Ronnie´s screenprint "Lucky Man" show?
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: March 27, 2015 02:40

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schillid
It shows average skill.


don't worry, with enough practice you'll also reach average heights!


....as my daughter might say, "OH! BURN!" spinning smiley sticking its tongue out

Re: What does Ronnie´s screenprint "Lucky Man" show?
Posted by: with sssoul ()
Date: March 27, 2015 09:56

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Naturalust
The woman is just as hard to understand.

Quite. Back on page 1 Matt Lee said the woman is Jo, and I reckon it's likely that he's asked.
But that doesn't help much in understanding the image, or the lyrics to the number entitled Lucky Man,
which sound like an expressionist cut-up about being messed up on drugs while involved in a relationship (or vice versa).

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I don't know about other people on this board but I am very much into Ronnie's artwork.
I'm a big fan. My whole family are fans, too.

I like a lot of his stuff, but not this one.



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Re: What does Ronnie´s screenprint "Lucky Man" show?
Posted by: Kurt ()
Date: March 27, 2015 18:09

Its all rather comical to me that this has been out there for awhile and no one has questioned it before now.
spinning smiley sticking its tongue out

I'll admit that I've been sucked into the mystery...

I believe that Ronnie is attempting to light a joint.
Jo is right there next to him to blow out the flame.

While she tried her best, she couldn't constantly protect Ronaldo from his many dangerous vices.

So glad he is now in a good spot.

Re: What does Ronnie´s screenprint "Lucky Man" show?
Posted by: latebloomer ()
Date: March 27, 2015 18:25

Could the eye thing be a reflection from the earring? It couldn't be Jo, can't believe Ronnie would have done such a poor drawing of her.

Re: What does Ronnie´s screenprint "Lucky Man" show?
Posted by: maumau ()
Date: March 27, 2015 18:36

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latebloomer
Could the eye thing be a reflection from the earring?

thumbs up

Re: What does Ronnie´s screenprint "Lucky Man" show?
Posted by: runaway ()
Date: March 27, 2015 18:46

I think she is a model

Re: What does Ronnie´s screenprint "Lucky Man" show?
Posted by: latebloomer ()
Date: March 27, 2015 22:27

I'm starting to think it is a woman, maybe because of the heart shaped face. But definitely not Jo. This lady is missing Jo's trademark bangs.

Re: What does Ronnie´s screenprint "Lucky Man" show?
Posted by: Plink ()
Date: March 28, 2015 01:55

At first glance I thought "Belushi", but Smoking Ronnie on the left looks older, not like the young-un he was when he was hanging w/ Belushi. Then someone mentioned Bobby Womack and I could see that as a possibility, but I've never seen a pic of Womack without glasses and the mystery figure isn't wearing glasses. If the figure represents a woman, I see no resemblance to Jo whatsoever. Could it be Ana Araujo? Would the timing of the prints creation coincide w/ their relationship?

Re: What does Ronnie´s screenprint "Lucky Man" show?
Posted by: massmick ()
Date: March 28, 2015 04:22

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Kurt
Its all rather comical to me that this has been out there for awhile and no one has questioned it before now.
spinning smiley sticking its tongue out

I'll admit that I've been sucked into the mystery...

I believe that Ronnie is attempting to light a joint.
Jo is right there next to him to blow out the flame.

While she tried her best, she couldn't constantly protect Ronaldo from his many dangerous vices.

So glad he is now in a good spot.

Kurt I think the fact that the price of the Lucky Man package was greatly reduced allowed many fans to scoop up some Ronnie...thus the newly sparked interest.

Re: What does Ronnie´s screenprint "Lucky Man" show?
Posted by: Carnaby ()
Date: March 29, 2015 05:33


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