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JJHMick
You're analyses are following a wrong trace. The Stones hadn't played the US since summer 1966. Then they promoted Aftermath but didn't play Under My Thumb. So they had to promote the following three years and they did quite well with that.
What you might have overseen: When they started the tour their brand new lp was Through the Past Darkly!
The question would be more why they also added something totally "unaccompanied" like Little Queenie? Did they already intend to release a live record in the following year - which means: before Live'r Than You'll Ever Be?
(I don't know when this Dylan live record was released that is at the beginning of the live bootleg boom?)
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Setlist Altamont;
1.jumpin jack flash-released as single 68 68
2.Carol-Berry cover released first album 64 64
3.Sympathy for the devil.released beggars banquet 68 68
4.The sun is shining-cover song by Jimmy reed(released 57), 69
5.Stray cat blues- released beggars banquet 68 68
6.Love in vain-Robert Johnson cover released on let it bleed 69
7.Under my thumb-released on aftermath 66 66
8.Brown sugar-released sticky fingers 71 (recorded 69) 71 71
9.Midnight rambler-released let it bleed 69 69
10.Live with me-released let it bleed 69 69
11.Gimme shelter-released let it bleed 69 69
12.Little queenie-Berry cover-released get yer ya....... 70
13.Satisfaction-released as a single (uk) 65 65
14.Honky tonk women released as single 69 69
15.Street fightin man-released on beggars banquet 68 68
Let it bleed released 5 des 69
Altamont 6 dec 69
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GasLightStreet
OK. So... I'm not sure what your point is. The question was what they had played with for a set list pre-Altamont, which means the 1969 tour regarding the tour, at least, as far as I understood it. Of course any set lists pre-1969 were different. They had a new LP coming out at the end of the tour, they played 3 songs from it every night, with a fourth song for only 3 shows as far as anyone knows, and then once it was out they did next to nothing for it. Almost as if it didn't matter...
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Eleanor Rigby
There's a pic backstage at Altamont of an acoustic guitar...but I guess that could have been with the band for a casual strum...maybe not.
It is possible the same usual set was planned that morning, but changed as they hit the stage.
Yeah the Gimme Shelter selection may have been due to let It Bleed being release to the US that day?
Weird they didnt play it more often during the tour.
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GasLightStreet
OK. So... I'm not sure what your point is. The question was what they had played with for a set list pre-Altamont, which means the 1969 tour regarding the tour, at least, as far as I understood it. Of course any set lists pre-1969 were different. They had a new LP coming out at the end of the tour, they played 3 songs from it every night, with a fourth song for only 3 shows as far as anyone knows, and then once it was out they did next to nothing for it. Almost as if it didn't matter...
Maybe I didn't get your point either!
I wanted to make out that they had more to promote than Let It Bleed.
Four out of nine songs in Altamont is more than they do today... And if you add Honky Tonk Women/Country Honk it's even more.
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GasLightStreet
OK. So... I'm not sure what your point is. The question was what they had played with for a set list pre-Altamont, which means the 1969 tour regarding the tour, at least, as far as I understood it. Of course any set lists pre-1969 were different. They had a new LP coming out at the end of the tour, they played 3 songs from it every night, with a fourth song for only 3 shows as far as anyone knows, and then once it was out they did next to nothing for it. Almost as if it didn't matter...
Maybe I didn't get your point either!
I wanted to make out that they had more to promote than Let It Bleed.
Four out of nine songs in Altamont is more than they do today... And if you add Honky Tonk Women/Country Honk it's even more.
I've never read anything about the 1969 tour being about anything else other than promoting LET IT BLEED even though they didn't finish recording it until the end of October! And they rehearsed for the tour a couple days later with the tour starting a week later. TTPD came out in September so that makes sense - but were they actually promoting it?
Obviously Honky Tonk Women would've gone on LET IT BLEED but since it's not... you can't count it!
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Wasn't Under my thumb on Got Live if You Want It?
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TravelinMan
It would be interesting to hear the metamorphosis of Gimme Shelter from '69-'72 back to back. If I can recall, Richards played lead in '69, Richards and Taylor both took a solo during the same song in '70, and finally Taylor took over lead from then on.
*I may be thinking of 1971 when both guitarists took a solo.
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Eleanor Rigby
There's a pic backstage at Altamont of an acoustic guitar...but I guess that could have been with the band for a casual strum...maybe not.
It is possible the same usual set was planned that morning, but changed as they hit the stage.
Yeah the Gimme Shelter selection may have been due to let It Bleed being release to the US that day?
Weird they didnt play it more often during the tour.
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Eleanor Rigby
There's a pic backstage at Altamont of an acoustic guitar...but I guess that could have been with the band for a casual strum...maybe not.
It is possible the same usual set was planned that morning, but changed as they hit the stage.
Yeah the Gimme Shelter selection may have been due to let It Bleed being release to the US that day?
Weird they didnt play it more often during the tour.
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Eleanor Rigby
To add further, Stanley Booth states in his book that he was one of the first people on stage...he took Keith's acoustic guitar!
To quote his exact words "I was the first on stage because keith asked me to take his acoustic guitar".
So from that you'd think the typical acoustic songs were intended on being performed!
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GasLightStreet
OK. So... I'm not sure what your point is. The question was what they had played with for a set list pre-Altamont, which means the 1969 tour regarding the tour, at least, as far as I understood it. Of course any set lists pre-1969 were different. They had a new LP coming out at the end of the tour, they played 3 songs from it every night, with a fourth song for only 3 shows as far as anyone knows, and then once it was out they did next to nothing for it. Almost as if it didn't matter...
Maybe I didn't get your point either!
I wanted to make out that they had more to promote than Let It Bleed.
Four out of nine songs in Altamont is more than they do today... And if you add Honky Tonk Women/Country Honk it's even more.
I've never read anything about the 1969 tour being about anything else other than promoting LET IT BLEED even though they didn't finish recording it until the end of October! And they rehearsed for the tour a couple days later with the tour starting a week later. TTPD came out in September so that makes sense - but were they actually promoting it?
Obviously Honky Tonk Women would've gone on LET IT BLEED but since it's not... you can't count it!
Kind of hard to promote a record that hasn't been released yet.
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LieB
I'm not so sure they cared so much about exactly what albums they were promoting in those days. They released new stuff so frequently and they toured so often it wasn't so obvious that one tour was to promote one album, like it was in say 1972 or 1981. Of course they wanted to sell records, and they wanted to play their most popular songs, but this was also a quite creative and progressive period for the Stones where they played songs they liked and thought would induce some magic on stage.
I may be wrong -- maybe they were more calculated than I think. But my belief is that the dynamics of the live show, they band's performance and the audience's reaction had higher priority than what album was current.