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71Tele I agree about how Keith later on, by Exile, develops his own style. And more so in 1975/1976.
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71Tele I agree about how Keith later on, by Exile, develops his own style. And more so in 1975/1976.
I think he had his own style down by 1971 with BS. But he didn't get to explore it fully on stage before 1975
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71Tele I agree about how Keith later on, by Exile, develops his own style. And more so in 1975/1976.
I think he had his own style down by 1971 with BS. But he didn't get to explore it fully on stage before 1975
As I see it, Keith built the foundation of his open tuning style in 68.
The tricks and voicings that "make" Sugar (and all open G anthems) are all there in Street Fighting man, just to make an example.
When Keith and Ry first met, both were into open tunings: only Keith was "specialized" in E/D, while Ry loved open G.
Admittedly, Keith then and there fell in love with the sound of open G. This was THE main factor of their encounter.
What I imagine happened next is that within 10 minutes since Keith tried open G himself, he understood that you can adapt open E fingerings to open G just moving everything one string up (it is no rocket science, I made the same "groundbreaking" discovery when I started studying open E coming from open G).
Ok, Keith also learnt 3 / 4 licks from Ry. So what? As pointed out by many here above, just every guitarist in the world does the same!
Is this "ripping off"?
No way. I am convinced that we would have Exile even if Keith never met Ry (although very likely all guitars would have been in open D/E). And it would have sold millions all the same.
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It took awhile before he developed his playing with it, though. For instance, he didn't remove the e-string right away. He played the HP-gig with six strings. I'm still not sure whether he removed it for the first US gigs in 1969. JJF sounds very bass-heavy for a 5-stringer.
He probably had his style down earlier, and perhaps it's more correct to say that the first evident KR-style original and developed open G-playing could be heard on SF (HTW lends too much from Cooder's licks. No crime, just the dubious side of "the antenna" at work ).
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Does it say when in 1969?
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In his otherwise good book on Brian, I think Paul has the tale inside out where it comes to Richards/Cooder style open G.
Detailed argument in paragraph 5 here
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Redhotcarpet
71Tele I agree about how Keith later on, by Exile, develops his own style. And more so in 1975/1976.
I think he had his own style down by 1971 with BS. But he didn't get to explore it fully on stage before 1975
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It took awhile before he developed his playing with it, though. For instance, he didn't remove the e-string right away. He played the HP-gig with six strings. I'm still not sure whether he removed it for the first US gigs in 1969. JJF sounds very bass-heavy for a 5-stringer.
He probably had his style down earlier, and perhaps it's more correct to say that the first evident KR-style original and developed open G-playing could be heard on SF (HTW lends too much from Cooder's licks. No crime, just the dubious side of "the antenna" at work ).
If the caption of this pic is correct, no 6th string in 1969!
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