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Does that list have more weifgt than Bjornulf's?

I was really looking forward to Milwaukee.

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Well, if it goes as it looks right now, that's just one show west of Texas out of 15. Even if Seattle gets 6/27, that's only two out of 15.

Still hopin'...

two thirds of the usa population live east of the mississippi

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I think the Midwest/Mideast is getting a good deal on this tour slate. I would even consider Pitt borderline Midwest/Mideast.

This tour from a geographical standpoint obviously differs from the norm. More research would have to back up my cursory thoughts.

Northeast did very well last tour Boston (2) Philly (2??), Washington , Broooklyn, etc..

Geographically the Midwest is Colorado, Wyoming, Oklahoma, Kansas, Nebraska. Anything immediately east of there would be the Mideast - Missouri, Iowa, Minnesota. The Northeast includes Wisconsin, Illinois, Indiana, Michigan and Ohio along with Pennsylvania etc.

Why people in the United States hold on to an ancient way of thinking like they do about where things are geographically is mind blowing.

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Boston, New York City et are at best 7 hours from those spots, there is a big gap for what is their most affluent and likely their biggest audience. .

San Francisco Bay Area is actually their most affluent audience these days. Worth coming back 1/2 across the country to play....still hoping.....

peace

Nah. This is the Salt of the Earth tour.

"salt of the earth" tour is a fantastic name for this tour! i'd buy the t-shirt!

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Hey sdstonesguy....
If you and others from SB are headed to San Diego, it would be fun to meet up before the concert. We are staying at the San Diego Marriott at the marina on West Harbor Drive...rolling in on Saturday afternoon.

Perhaps we can set up a joint IORR/Shidoobee gathering in the Gas Lamp!

I'm all for that! We're only coming down from LA so not sure yet if we'll book both the 23rd and 24th yet, rates are a lot cheaper for the 24th only so that makes me sceptical of the actual show date.

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"Pittsburgh does indeed have a Tiffany." Really???

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I'm guessing every show will contain the Sticky Fingers warhorses ('Sugar, Bitch, Wild Horses) and then alternate some, but not all, of the rest. "Dead Flowers," "CYHMK" and "Sway" perhaps. 4-5 songs total. The rest of the set will be much like they've been doing since 2012.

This is what I expect, a 4-5 song SF mini-set and it will be fantastic. If they manage to notch it up a little from that the show will be a grand slam in my book!

Add to that the possibility they do it on the b stage. Knocked me socks off In 14k seat Quebec City when they did little queenie 10 feet in Front of me

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Does that list have more weifgt than Bjornulf's?

I was really looking forward to Milwaukee.

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I'm guessing every show will contain the Sticky Fingers warhorses ('Sugar, Bitch, Wild Horses) and then alternate some, but not all, of the rest. "Dead Flowers," "CYHMK" and "Sway" perhaps. 4-5 songs total. The rest of the set will be much like they've been doing since 2012.

This is what I expect, a 4-5 song SF mini-set and it will be fantastic. If they manage to notch it up a little from that the show will be a grand slam in my book!

Add to that the possibility they do it on the b stage. Knocked me socks off In 14k seat Quebec City when they did little queenie 10 feet in Front of me

I'm trying to figure out what the configuration of the stage might be for San Diego. You guys refer to a "B" stage. Is that the name for the "runway" strip that goes right down the center of the field that Mick usually goes all the way down at least a couple of times? I've seen it in dvd/youtube's of concerts. I wonder, do they always have that "runway" in every stadium show? I wonder if the stadium map on Ticketmaster will show such a "runway"? Having seats kind of far from the real stage but near the runway would be a great option if I'm trying to get as close as I can but can't get up to the real stage.

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How do they get to the stage at the rear of the floor? does it involve that long, narrow strip which I am referring to as the "runway?

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Yes, I do want to go to Milwaukee too and feel BV's list is more reliable. Stones at Camp Randall in 1997 didn't sell well at all. Milwaukee is definitely the way to go, especially right on the eve of Summerfest. At the very least, if you need someone to look for potential billboards in Madison, I can go out for a drive.

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How do they get to the stage at the rear of the floor? does it involve that long, narrow strip which I am referring to as the "runway?

Sometimes; on the B2B tour they had the big bridge that swung over

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The list on the previous page, taken from another site, seems old and out of date. I will not reproduce it as it will lead to more confusion.

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Switching gears for a minute, I just saw this on Shidoobee and thought it might be of interest here.


GlimmerGirl24/Tiger's Ticket Buying Tutorial

It really depends on what tickets you're going for. There won't necessarily be better tickets in the presale. Nor will they be easier to grab because everyone and the guy living in a box under the freeway overpass these days have an AMEX or Citicard for concert ticket purchases. I'll divide it up by price levels and locations.

Packages - lower deck in front of the stage, golden circle pit and reserved field. They're pricey and are easy to get in either sale. They probably sit a bit longer in the presale. If you're going for those and the conditions of the presale work for you, buy. Don't buy unless it's exactly what you want. You don't want to spend $1500 on a seat 20 rows from where you want to be. Toss them back and try again in the general sale. You might do better. Sometimes the best package seats aren't in the presale. If you're going for the first section in front of the stage, about every low row has a handful. To see how they allocate them - look at Neil Diamond's April concerts (Pittsburgh, Milwaukee, etc) on TM that let you choose on the map. Or Mellencamp's Detroit show at the Fillmore should give you the idea too.

Top Price Ticket - on the field or lower deck near the stage, play in the presale. But if all you're pulling up are back of the stadium - don't pull the trigger. Try again in the general sale. If it's still towards the back or up high - refrain from buying. In the initial sales, AEG is going to push the least desirable in that price range. They know they can sell the better ones later, but not the high rent seats in low rent areas. Don't be fooled that all the good tickets in high rent areas are gone. They are not. They're just not in the inventory for the sale and they're not being added because people aren't buying the high rent ones in yucky sections. They'll drop desirable high rent areas later - just keep checking for them. They'll have them at the box office on the day of the concert.

Upper Deck Side Stage - are probably best bought in the presale, especially if there are Lucky Dips. In 2013, the side stage upper decks were limited since at least half were Lucky Dips. If you're going after that location, plan on the presale. They usually do not show up in a pre or general sale until they've sold the less desirable upper deck tickets. And sometimes they show up after the initial sales because the upper deck sold slowly. It's a judgment call on whether they're holding them back or the scalpers grabbed them all. If you keep getting the same sections and rows in yucky parts of the upper deck - it's probably a slow sale.

Upper Deck, Right In Front Of The Stage - I'd follow the same advice as the upper deck side stage. Try for them in the presale. If you don't find them, try again in the general sale. The general sale won't offer anything worse, so you're safe in tossing back in the presale. If it looks like slow sales, wait for drops later on.

Get Me In The Door With The Cheapest Ticket - this ticket is as hard to get as the front row. Sometimes there are no more than eight rows of them. There will not be drops later - unless there is an incredible fire sale that reprices more expensive tickets. (This is not unheard of - Boston's Gillette Stadium in '06 reduced the upper deck to the lowest price). Sometimes the presales have them, sometimes they don't. Click in both sales and if you find them, buy. Do not toss back. Especially do not toss back if there are Lucky Dips because the Lucky Dips will severely limit this inventory. If there is a fire sale later, you can buy better tickets and sell your first purchase on Stubhub, ebay or the street.

Lower Deck Side Stage - most of the side stage on Ronnie's side is held back for crew, personal friends and family. You can often buy those close to the day of the concert. In pre and general sales, side stage does not turn up until they've sold the back of the venue. Sometimes they do not show up in the initial sales if the tickets aren't flying out the door. There's usually drops for these later.

The Two Lower Deck Sections In Front Of The Stage On Ronnie's Side are usually FOB (Friend of the Band) locations. You can often find drops for them later on. With other bands (Elton John), these sections can be fan club seats.

Middle Sections, Lower Deck are usually held back. Season ticket holders, venue sponsors, suite owners, venue suppliers (hot dogs, toilet paper, beer) have dibs on them so you don't see many in the initial sales. Especially down low. They often appear later in drops.

Pit With Seated Floor - if you want in those front rows behind the pit without buying a package, your odds of finding them in the initial sales are low because only a handful are released. They will show up eventually. The packages that don't sell will be returned to the inventory too. However, the box office employees may pull most of them for friends. But if that's where you must be, then you must wait it out. If you don't have nerves of steel - act like you do. Depending on how many they have left, they might start dropping them two weeks before show time. Or it might be the night before. Or at 6pm the day of the show at the box office. If that's where you want to be, hold out. You'll either get lucky or end up with a decent lower deck seat.

If they have the Lucky Dips - a pair for $200, about 10 to 15% are in good locations - the pit, mid lower deck. There will be several rows of them at the back of the stadium, lower deck, high up. There should be a side stage section on either side of the stage, upper deck. Maybe a few side stage, lower deck. The rest will be in the top rows, circling the upper deck. At least 50% of the purchasers, if not more, will be paying $100 for a seat that would have been priced at $60 if the Lucky Dip promotion didn't exist. In the arenas, it was worth the gamble, at least for me. Out of seven shows, I made it into the tongue pit twice. I don't want to discourage you from Lucky Dips, just letting you know where they are and what your chances are to end up in a high rent district.

Don't worry that the stadiums are going to sell out in the initial sales because the Stones haven't played the city in 10 to 18 years. They will not. Only 50 to 70% of the inventory will be released in the presale and general sales. That inventory will not sell out. They may pull the inventory for awhile after the general sale, but it will come back. In some towns they'll be handing them out to Girl Scouts for a box of cookies. There will be papering.

AEG also does flex pricing. Where a section will have two prices. If a sale is slow, a $300 section can change to $150. This can happen twenty minutes into the sale. I'm sure we will see flex pricing in the lower deck from mid venue to the back switch to lower prices as the shows get closer. They'll reduce the price and stamp obstructed view on the ticket. The view will not be obstructed. A couple of days before the concert (or it could be sooner depending on sales) the section will return to the original price.

Papering is when stacks of tickets are handed out to local businesses. Stones concerts are notorious for papering, they do not want empty seats. The tickets will go to radio stations, beverage and food suppliers, suite owners, venue and tour sponsors, etc. If you know of a company with any tie to the venue, let them know you're looking for tickets. If you buy Lucky Dips, it can be a good back up plan. The brokers over bought for the 50th anniversary shows in '12. They under bought for 13's 50 And Counting. We'll have to wait and see if eBay and StubHub will be a buyer's market.

TM, Stubhub, etc. all have apps which are great for looking for ticket drops and day of the show sales. Stubhub often has a temporary office set up in a hotel near the venue and can print the tickets.

You might want to get a drop group together, if someone sees a drop, they notify the rest in the group. The app GroupMe works great for this. If you don't have a smart phone, you can still receive and send texts. You can also send/receive from their website. Google Voice might work well too.

If you aren't buying tickets for the shows that go on sale first, click in the pre and general sales. Offer to help someone click who is buying. If you are buying in the first sales, practice in whatever sales TM has going on sale this weekend. If you have never bought through Tickets or AXS, practice in their sales this weekend. Click on buy to see how their purchasing differs. Practice gives you a chance to see how tickets are released and how they are selling. Practice results in cool, calm, informed heads and luck.


This is as usual from GG24 state of the art stuff, stuff that IORR definitely does not provide, and which directly contradicts bv's ticket buying advice. Why?

Would this info (and whoever posted it) be banned from IORR if someone put it on there? Good question.

P.S. The only reason i've seen so far for the delay in announcing the tour is "ticketing system" problems. Either that's a) bullshit and this is just a built-in delay,
to build anticipation and buzz or b) they really are going to try some new algorithms this time to try to frustrate some of GG24's strategies. So just in case
b) is true, I would suggest you use your kid's credit card, or somebody between the ages of 21-35, particularly somebody with a strong facebook/twitter
profile. This is a very important part of how companies market these days, getting their product into the "right" hands first, and letting the buzz build from there.

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Don't worry about tickets for stadium shows. Many want the best tickets of course, they might be expensive and go fast, but still, a stadium is big, there are many tickets on sale, many returns, some can't go, plenty of tickets in circulations, so with a stadium show teher is abolutely no problem to get inside. Also, no need to go through brokers. Just stay on your computer, try again if you don't get the tickets you want. Ticketmaster will release ticheds people are holding after a few minutes, they will get to you on your next search. Finally, it is easier to get one or two tickets than ten in a row. If you are stuck with no tickets in your search, try a lower number.

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Does that list have more weifgt than Bjornulf's?

I was really looking forward to Milwaukee.

Me too! Still hoping for Marcus Amphitheater!

Lots BS on here, but it's also apparent lots of plans have been changing. Bring back Michael Cohl! AEG appears to be in chaos. In 2013, AEG screwed up many things - many, some very badly. Hope they do better this tour, but these initial signs are not promising.

AEG, please get your act together and don't mess up this tour like you did the 2013 tour.

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Does that list have more weifgt than Bjornulf's?

I was really looking forward to Milwaukee.

Me too! Still hoping for Marcus Amphitheater!

Lots BS on here, but it's also apparent lots of plans have been changing. Bring back Michael Cohl! AEG appears to be in chaos. In 2013, AEG screwed up many things - many, some very badly. Hope they do better this tour, but these initial signs are not promising.

AEG, please get your act together and don't mess up this tour like you did the 2013 tour.