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I keep thinking that gap between San Diego and Columbus looks suspicious.

Yea.
But I won't be surprised even nothing happened.

They had 5 days vacant between Tokyo 1st and 2nd show last year.
Then some of Japanese fan rumored possible BUDOKAN extra show. But nothing.

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They should announce this tour schedule on April 1st as it's an "April Fools" joke. IT's unlikely they'll fill stadiums in such small market cities. The Stones are avoiding the entire East Coast of the country. Boston, New York, Philly, Baltimore that's where the money and a good part of their fan base is. Maybe Mick Taylor decided he didn't want to spend his summer in Detroit, Buffalo, Pittsburgh and Milwaukee and declined the tour. Whatever the reasoning they are misguided, an organization that usually gets things right is marching off in a whimper, avoiding Vegas, LA as well... Only conclusion they must not think very much of their show.

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DoomandGloom
They should announce this tour schedule on April 1st as it's an "April Fools" joke. IT's unlikely they'll fill stadiums in such small market cities. The Stones are avoiding the entire East Coast of the country. Boston, New York, Philly, Baltimore that's where the money and a good part of their fan base is. Maybe Mick Taylor decided he didn't want to spend his summer in Detroit, Buffalo, Pittsburgh and Milwaukee and declined the tour. Whatever the reasoning they are misguided, an organization that usually gets things right is marching off in a whimper, avoiding Vegas, LA as well... Only conclusion they must not think very much of their show.

What an idiotical post. Taylor didn't want to go to these citys?

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DoomandGloom
They should announce this tour schedule on April 1st as it's an "April Fools" joke. IT's unlikely they'll fill stadiums in such small market cities. The Stones are avoiding the entire East Coast of the country. Boston, New York, Philly, Baltimore that's where the money and a good part of their fan base is. Maybe Mick Taylor decided he didn't want to spend his summer in Detroit, Buffalo, Pittsburgh and Milwaukee and declined the tour. Whatever the reasoning they are misguided, an organization that usually gets things right is marching off in a whimper, avoiding Vegas, LA as well... Only conclusion they must not think very much of their show.

What an idiotical post. Taylor didn't want to go to these citys?

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DoomandGloom
They should announce this tour schedule on April 1st as it's an "April Fools" joke. IT's unlikely they'll fill stadiums in such small market cities. The Stones are avoiding the entire East Coast of the country. Boston, New York, Philly, Baltimore that's where the money and a good part of their fan base is. Maybe Mick Taylor decided he didn't want to spend his summer in Detroit, Buffalo, Pittsburgh and Milwaukee and declined the tour. Whatever the reasoning they are misguided, an organization that usually gets things right is marching off in a whimper, avoiding Vegas, LA as well... Only conclusion they must not think very much of their show.

What an idiotical post. Taylor didn't want to go to these citys?

I wasn't serious about that but this list is dreadful. No way Mick Jagger would visit Detroit or Pittsburgh if he weren't playing there, a guy who pays beautiful people to attend to avoid looking at an old bald audience in the front rows. I hope I am dead wrong and they sell out these football parks during the summer when gasoline is 3 dollars a gallon and the economy is sputtering in these cities. Not only New York but how do they manage to avoid the entire East Coast? Philly has been one of their strongholds for decades. Maybe Charlie will smack some sense into them.

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DoomandGloom
They should announce this tour schedule on April 1st as it's an "April Fools" joke. IT's unlikely they'll fill stadiums in such small market cities. The Stones are avoiding the entire East Coast of the country. Boston, New York, Philly, Baltimore that's where the money and a good part of their fan base is. Maybe Mick Taylor decided he didn't want to spend his summer in Detroit, Buffalo, Pittsburgh and Milwaukee and declined the tour. Whatever the reasoning they are misguided, an organization that usually gets things right is marching off in a whimper, avoiding Vegas, LA as well... Only conclusion they must not think very much of their show.

What an idiotical post. Taylor didn't want to go to these citys?

I wasn't serious about that but this list is dreadful. No way Mick Jagger would visit Detroit or Pittsburgh if he weren't playing there, a guy who pays beautiful people to attend to avoid looking at an old bald audience in the front rows. I hope I am dead wrong and they sell out these football parks during the summer when gasoline is 3 dollars a gallon and the economy is sputtering in these cities. Not only New York but how do they manage to avoid the entire East Coast? Philly has been one of their strongholds for decades. Maybe Charlie will smack some sense into them.

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Another nice one in from Rochester, NY - thx to Dylan for sending 2me!

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DoomandGloom
2 years ago Charlie refused to play outdoor stadiums, citing the dampness and other health concerns.

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2 years ago Charlie refused to play outdoor stadiums, citing the dampness and other health concerns.

You actually believed that?

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In Europe they had also the lucky dip tickets and despite the comment of Björnulf a lot of ticket agencies sold those for quite a long time after the concert has been called sold out. For Instance Oslo was open for about 10 days and Zurich even for more then two weeks in which you were able to get Tickets. I know that it did not work for other concerts as well.

I can't recall how the lucky dip thing was in 2013 as we had Pit tickets for 6 concerts and seats for 1. But to my understanding the issue was that the Rolling Stones insisted to have 1000 low price tickets for eacht concerts. Mind you it was only AEG who lost money and not the Stones. And at the end even when they filled the gaps with free concertgoers. What the heck I enjoyed all the arena concerts and in an arena you will never be so close even on first row.

Still I am happy for all the ones who would like to see them in a big place and enjoy the roaring power of the fans to celebrate the band. I hope that all of you will get tickets what they want.

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Robin Leach was dead on in that February article. But I wonder about AEG's judgment. In 2013, they had to invent the "$85s discounting" to fill the overpriced US/Canada arenas. Same thing, or worse (like closed off sections), will happen this summer if they overprice stadiums. Hard to believe they will make more at a stadium show than they could at the MGM arena.

The $85 tickets weren't discounted. They sold a lot of upper deck and back of the arena seats for $85, that they would have had problems unloading for over $50. A small percentage of us ended up in high rent areas, but most got a seat that would have been priced less than $85. We paid a premium for a low rent district.

Arenas have to sell at least two shows at Stones' pricing to get into the black. They have pesky little deals with their season ticket holders to offer them tickets to any event for $X. X is less than a Stones ticket in the areas they have to offer seating. To make up for that loss, they need two nights. Which is why on the last two tours the Stones have skipped arenas in a lot of secondary markets - the arenas wouldn't sign onto their pricing. Markets like NYC, LA, Chicago, the Bay Area can sell two or more nights. However, they did have problems with Boston two years ago and the third Philadelphia show became a DC date.

It's two years later. The Stones want the same or more to tour the U.S. The Stones haven't done anything to have tourists clamoring to fill up arenas more than once in most cities. AEG would like to make a profit. They must have decided their best bet at a profit were secondary markets that the Stones haven't played in 10 to 18 years. Arenas are out. But college football and baseball stadiums are not. They do not have the issues with the pesky contracts that arenas have to honor and have a chance to break even or show a profit.

The Stones make the same regardless of the venue. Once they're paid - the promoter and venue scramble for the crumbs. And that is why we get to see the Stones in a stadium that worships Woody Hayes. More crumbs for AEG and the venue to sweep up than there would be at the United Center in Chicago.

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Maindefender
I've been following this thread since page 1. Regarding American Express presale info there have been any codes issued yet, correct?

Best regards…..

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Maindefender
I've been following this thread since page 1. Regarding American Express presale info there have been any codes issued yet, correct?

Best regards…..

American Express presale code is almost always 412800 for any show.

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No it is not. Why keep saying that?

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Maindefender
I've been following this thread since page 1. Regarding American Express presale info there have been any codes issued yet, correct?

Best regards…..

American Express presale code is almost always 412800 for any show.

thanks DAN!!!
who else you going to see this year?

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God what a bunch of whiners. The Stones are in their seventies and are not going to be able to do this again. Everyone of the markets that have been rumored for this tour have a longstanding history with the band who obviously don't need the money but do enjoy playing live. This tour is a way of thanking all of those people like they did down under last year and in Asia before that and Europe before that and in the OTHER American markets before that. They might do one offs in LA, London or New York in the next few years but for the big spectacle Stones show this is it. This is all she wrote.

Of course the only way they're going to reach the number of fans that want to see them is to play stadiums. These markets are smaller and far more spread out and are lower population wise compared to NYC, Toronto, DC, Chicago and LA. The cost of living in these places is lower so the people's incomes are proportionately lower as well. Hence, more people at a lower ticket price, one last time. Simple economics. These markets are more like those in Europe where the Stones played virtually all stadiums and festivals as well. O2 notwithstanding nary a basketball or hockey venue in the bunch.

We'll know in a few days but I'm guessing the high-rollers who doled out $250 to $600 for middling tickets in the US in 2013 are going to be shocked. These shows will be priced to sell or else there would be no point in doing them.

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God what a bunch of whiners. The Stones are in their seventies and are not going to be able to do this again. Everyone of the markets that have been rumored for this tour have a longstanding history with the band who obviously don't need the money but do enjoy playing live. This tour is a way of thanking all of those people like they did down under last year and in Asia before that and Europe before that and in the OTHER American markets before that. They might do one offs in LA, London or New York in the next few years but for the big spectacle Stones show this is it. This is all she wrote.

Of course the only way they're going to reach the number of fans that want to see them is to play stadiums. These markets are smaller and far more spread out and are lower population wise compared to NYC, Toronto, DC, Chicago and LA. The cost of living in these places is lower so the people's incomes are proportionately lower as well. Hence, more people at a lower ticket price, one last time. Simple economics. These markets are more like those in Europe where the Stones played virtually all stadiums and festivals as well. O2 notwithstanding nary a basketball or hockey venue in the bunch.

We'll know in a few days but I'm guessing the high-rollers who doled out $250 to $600 for middling tickets in the US in 2013 are going to be shocked. These shows will be priced to sell or else there would be no point in doing them.