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Yes, MisterDDDD. It's not bad, just a big let down after learning they might play multiple times at Forest Hills or at least once at Red Rocks, which is less than 30 minutes from where I live.

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Roadblock for The Rolling Stones to perform in Las Vegas

By Robin Leach
Monday, Feb. 16, 2015 | 5:04 p.m.

Those mid-June plans for a Rolling Stones concert in Las Vegas have hit a roadblock, and I’m told that unless the group changes its mind, the music legends won’t be appearing here.

Originally the British rockers led by Mick Jagger had planned to include Las Vegas as a U.S. “14 On Fire Tour” stop in their current world tour.

The date of June 13 was penciled in at the 16,800-seat MGM Grand Garden Arena, but it turns out that bookings as far away as Europe and Australia have been juggernaut sellouts — in stadiums.

So promoters and management have apparently decided that the group will only play stadiums, not concert halls or arenas.

Even though we have 40,000 seats at Sam Boyd Stadium with room for thousands more standing on the field (remember The Grateful Dead had 125,533 fans there for its final show in 1995), it appears for now that Las Vegas is in jeopardy and struck from The Stones’ current concert plans.

[lasvegassun.com]

So, we never did get any kind of info re. why Sam Boyd Stadium in Las Vegas, NV can't be considered as a possibility for this 2015 summer tour. Even though it's capacity would meet the Stones' requirement for stadiums only this summer. By the way, The Las Vegas Sun, quoted above, is a supplement to the legitimate newspaper for the Vegas area, The Las Vegas Review-Journal. It's not some lying trashy blog like the one we experienced for a while a few months ago which gave us very misleading info re. the Rock-In Rio USA festival May 8-9th of this year.I live in Las Vegas but will gladly go to San Diego if I can possibly score good seats. But of course, if they make a STADIUM stop here I won't need to travel.

Hey Carolyn,
Do the trip to San Diego! Want regret it! Opening night, hard to explain but you go to a show without a clue what they will do for the first 8-10 songs. Go! See you there!

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well good for you
san Diego's not even in Los Angeles country it might as well be another part of the world
so LA is supposed to be cut out because playing in places they missed two years ago is a good thing????? For who??? LA has one of the largest Stones fan bases besides NYC
San Diego sucks

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When do tickets go on sale. Hopefully the different shows go on sale on different dates

I hope so too.

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OPTIONS TO BUFFALO FROM EUROPE:

GO THRU TORONTO - much cheaper flights than going thru NYC, and 2 hours away from Buffalo. Easy drive or train, though a car makes more sense

You might have a hard time explaining US Customs agents why you traveled from Europe to Buffalo through Toronto. Won't that look shady to cops?
And crossing the US border coming from Canada is tricky even for Canadians.

Me I'd take the "easy" NYC route.

Reminds me of the time when I came back thru customs after a Toronto show at CNE. Boarder agent asks me what i'm doing in Canada and i tell him it was to see the Stones. He asks me if i got any pot on me and i tell him i smoked it all at the show. He says drive on thru with a scowl on his face.

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Robin Leach was dead on in that February article. But I wonder about AEG's judgment. In 2013, they had to invent the "$85s discounting" to fill the overpriced US/Canada arenas. Same thing, or worse (like closed off sections), will happen this summer if they overprice stadiums. Hard to believe they will make more at a stadium show than they could at the MGM arena.

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the schedule is good for someone living in chicago like me....lots of one day drive trips, north, south, east, and west. i can see about 8 shows without having to fly anywhere.

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I keep thinking that gap between San Diego and Columbus looks suspicious. Maybe they'll slip Santa Clara into that spot. If they really want to make some noise, they should slide into Columbus 3 days early and do a club gig at the Newport: America's longest continually running rock club, the venue that opened the Gunslinger tour, the site where John Lee Hooker gave his last American performance, the stage where U2 played their 1st US gig, and the place where Eric Burdon threatened to beat up a fan. No better place to film the Sticky Fingers show. Hey, I'm a dreamer - so sue me! Bowie, Springteen, AC/DC, and tons of others played here before they broke big. No noise reg's...

"Rocker Ted Nugent was attracted because it had no noise regulations. Stienecker remembers Nugent putting the butt of his guitar in the soundman’s face and telling him that if he did not turn the sound up as loud as it could go, he would hunt down the man’s family and kill them. That night Nugent lived up to his reputation of playing one of the loudest shows people have ever heard."

“I love this place because there is an intimacy you do not get playing at the bigger places,” Joe Walsh said in the documentary. “There’s no such thing as having a bad gig here. You can’t. It won’t let you.”



a brief history:
[thelantern.com]

and a great documentary inc interviews with B.B. King, Ted Nugent, Joe Walsh, Peter Frampton, and great rare live footage of early Queen, Alice Cooper, lots of acts. great doc!
[www.youtube.com]

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I'm not sure if this has been discussed yet, if so I apologize. But I am wondering how the pre-sale tickets work. Have they mentioned if it will go to AMEX cardholders or Citi cardholders? I'd just like any nfo on how this works. Thanks.

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Robin Leach was dead on in that February article. But I wonder about AEG's judgment. In 2013, they had to invent the "$85s discounting" to fill the overpriced US/Canada arenas. Same thing, or worse (like closed off sections), will happen this summer if they overprice stadiums. Hard to believe they will make more at a stadium show than they could at the MGM arena.

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according to U2, their first US gig was at The Mudd Club in NYC to an audience of 2. Their real first US show was at The Ritz in NYC. I was there.

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Robin Leach was dead on in that February article. But I wonder about AEG's judgment. In 2013, they had to invent the "$85s discounting" to fill the overpriced US/Canada arenas. Same thing, or worse (like closed off sections), will happen this summer if they overprice stadiums. Hard to believe they will make more at a stadium show than they could at the MGM arena.

The $85 tickets weren't discounted. They sold a lot of upper deck and back of the arena seats for $85, that they would have had problems unloading for over $50. A small percentage of us ended up in high rent areas, but most got a seat that would have been priced less than $85. We paid a premium for a low rent district.

Arenas have to sell at least two shows at Stones' pricing to get into the black. They have pesky little deals with their season ticket holders to offer them tickets to any event for $X. X is less than a Stones ticket in the areas they have to offer seating. To make up for that loss, they need two nights. Which is why on the last two tours the Stones have skipped arenas in a lot of secondary markets - the arenas wouldn't sign onto their pricing. Markets like NYC, LA, Chicago, the Bay Area can sell two or more nights. However, they did have problems with Boston two years ago and the third Philadelphia show became a DC date.

It's two years later. The Stones want the same or more to tour the U.S. The Stones haven't done anything to have tourists clamoring to fill up arenas more than once in most cities. AEG would like to make a profit. They must have decided their best bet at a profit were secondary markets that the Stones haven't played in 10 to 18 years. Arenas are out. But college football and baseball stadiums are not. They do not have the issues with the pesky contracts that arenas have to honor and have a chance to break even or show a profit.

The Stones make the same regardless of the venue. Once they're paid - the promoter and venue scramble for the crumbs. And that is why we get to see the Stones in a stadium that worships Woody Hayes. More crumbs for AEG and the venue to sweep up than there would be at the United Center in Chicago.

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Roadblock for The Rolling Stones to perform in Las Vegas

By Robin Leach
Monday, Feb. 16, 2015 | 5:04 p.m.

Those mid-June plans for a Rolling Stones concert in Las Vegas have hit a roadblock, and I’m told that unless the group changes its mind, the music legends won’t be appearing here.

Originally the British rockers led by Mick Jagger had planned to include Las Vegas as a U.S. “14 On Fire Tour” stop in their current world tour.

The date of June 13 was penciled in at the 16,800-seat MGM Grand Garden Arena, but it turns out that bookings as far away as Europe and Australia have been juggernaut sellouts — in stadiums.

So promoters and management have apparently decided that the group will only play stadiums, not concert halls or arenas.

Even though we have 40,000 seats at Sam Boyd Stadium with room for thousands more standing on the field (remember The Grateful Dead had 125,533 fans there for its final show in 1995), it appears for now that Las Vegas is in jeopardy and struck from The Stones’ current concert plans.

[lasvegassun.com]

So, we never did get any kind of info re. why Sam Boyd Stadium in Las Vegas, NV can't be considered as a possibility for this 2015 summer tour. Even though it's capacity would meet the Stones' requirement for stadiums only this summer. By the way, The Las Vegas Sun, quoted above, is a supplement to the legitimate newspaper for the Vegas area, The Las Vegas Review-Journal. It's not some lying trashy blog like the one we experienced for a while a few months ago which gave us very misleading info re. the Rock-In Rio USA festival May 8-9th of this year.I live in Las Vegas but will gladly go to San Diego if I can possibly score good seats. But of course, if they make a STADIUM stop here I won't need to travel.

Hey Carolyn,
Do the trip to San Diego! Want regret it! Opening night, hard to explain but you go to a show without a clue what they will do for the first 8-10 songs. Go! See you there!

TE
Oslo

Thanks so much for the encouraging words. It's kind of a tricky situation for me because I don't have an American Express card or whatever type of credit card might be required for a pre-sale (if they have a pre-sale offer at all). I am sure that without a pre-sale I won't have any chance of a really good seat. I won't go if I can't have a good seat. I hope that doesn't sound too much like whining...a little little part of me deep inside is stamping my foot right now & crying I will try to obtain whatever kind of card might be useful for a pre-sale but I'm not sure I'll qualify for one just now. In 6 months or a year from now, yes, there would be no problem. I appreciate you're saying I can see you there because another issue I'm having is I will be alone & that sounds almost as depressing as not going at all! Thanks for letting me vent. I'll let you know later. Also, see my email on My profile if you'd like or my Facebook page Carolyn Frieburg Graham. I'll have a 1 hr 5 minute flight from Vegas. Do you live cloze to San Diego?

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Robin Leach was dead on in that February article. But I wonder about AEG's judgment. In 2013, they had to invent the "$85s discounting" to fill the overpriced US/Canada arenas. Same thing, or worse (like closed off sections), will happen this summer if they overprice stadiums. Hard to believe they will make more at a stadium show than they could at the MGM arena.

The $85 tickets weren't discounted. They sold a lot of upper deck and back of the arena seats for $85, that they would have had problems unloading for over $50. A small percentage of us ended up in high rent areas, but most got a seat that would have been priced less than $85. We paid a premium for a low rent district.

Arenas have to sell at least two shows at Stones' pricing to get into the black. They have pesky little deals with their season ticket holders to offer them tickets to any event for $X. X is less than a Stones ticket in the areas they have to offer seating. To make up for that loss, they need two nights. Which is why on the last two tours the Stones have skipped arenas in a lot of secondary markets - the arenas wouldn't sign onto their pricing. Markets like NYC, LA, Chicago, the Bay Area can sell two or more nights. However, they did have problems with Boston two years ago and the third Philadelphia show became a DC date.

It's two years later. The Stones want the same or more to tour the U.S. The Stones haven't done anything to have tourists clamoring to fill up arenas more than once in most cities. AEG would like to make a profit. They must have decided their best bet at a profit were secondary markets that the Stones haven't played in 10 to 18 years. Arenas are out. But college football and baseball stadiums are not. They do not have the issues with the pesky contracts that arenas have to honor and have a chance to break even or show a profit.

The Stones make the same regardless of the venue. Once they're paid - the promoter and venue scramble for the crumbs. And that is why we get to see the Stones in a stadium that worships Woody Hayes. More crumbs for AEG and the venue to sweep up than there would be at the United Center in Chicago.

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In some of these small market cities they will be giving away tickets free with a fillup at local gas stations...

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Robin Leach was dead on in that February article. But I wonder about AEG's judgment. In 2013, they had to invent the "$85s discounting" to fill the overpriced US/Canada arenas. Same thing, or worse (like closed off sections), will happen this summer if they overprice stadiums. Hard to believe they will make more at a stadium show than they could at the MGM arena.

The $85 tickets weren't discounted. They sold a lot of upper deck and back of the arena seats for $85, that they would have had problems unloading for over $50. A small percentage of us ended up in high rent areas, but most got a seat that would have been priced less than $85. We paid a premium for a low rent district.

Arenas have to sell at least two shows at Stones' pricing to get into the black. They have pesky little deals with their season ticket holders to offer them tickets to any event for $X. X is less than a Stones ticket in the areas they have to offer seating. To make up for that loss, they need two nights. Which is why on the last two tours the Stones have skipped arenas in a lot of secondary markets - the arenas wouldn't sign onto their pricing. Markets like NYC, LA, Chicago, the Bay Area can sell two or more nights. However, they did have problems with Boston two years ago and the third Philadelphia show became a DC date.

It's two years later. The Stones want the same or more to tour the U.S. The Stones haven't done anything to have tourists clamoring to fill up arenas more than once in most cities. AEG would like to make a profit. They must have decided their best bet at a profit were secondary markets that the Stones haven't played in 10 to 18 years. Arenas are out. But college football and baseball stadiums are not. They do not have the issues with the pesky contracts that arenas have to honor and have a chance to break even or show a profit.

The Stones make the same regardless of the venue. Once they're paid - the promoter and venue scramble for the crumbs. And that is why we get to see the Stones in a stadium that worships Woody Hayes. More crumbs for AEG and the venue to sweep up than there would be at the United Center in Chicago.

I agree with lots of your comment, but the $85s were not offered at the beginning of the 2013 tour. Initially AEG had a very tight limit on the number of lowest priced seats, which I think were generally offered in the $70-high90s range, but few could get those because of the very limited quantity. AEG was trying to sell almost the entire lower level for the $350-450 price and most of the upper level for prices around $200+. But then they saw that was not going to happen, so they came out with the $85s - and to fill the arenas, thousands of those had to be sold, plus at several arenas they moved to discounting most, or all, of the seats that did not sell initially, except for Vegas - and lots of $85s were sold even for Vegas - so that was "discounting". I had $85s for twelve of the concerts and got in the pit twice and got good seats four other times. As for the other six times, most but not every time, I was able self upgrade to good seats from the nosebleed ones.

The arena issue with season ticket holder rights, is a problem for the Stones, even though I think that only applies to suites in most cases - so its not quite as big an issue as you imply - but its significant. I know, for the new Las Vegas arena being built by AEG/MGM, the season ticket holders for the proposed new NHL team will not have any special rights for tickets other than the NHL games (but ? not sure about any suites there).

It will be interesting to see how sales go for the big stadiums this tour. In 2013, those fans who were patient got better values than those who purchased in the initial sale.

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Robin Leach was dead on in that February article. But I wonder about AEG's judgment. In 2013, they had to invent the "$85s discounting" to fill the overpriced US/Canada arenas. Same thing, or worse (like closed off sections), will happen this summer if they overprice stadiums. Hard to believe they will make more at a stadium show than they could at the MGM arena.

The $85 tickets weren't discounted. They sold a lot of upper deck and back of the arena seats for $85, that they would have had problems unloading for over $50. A small percentage of us ended up in high rent areas, but most got a seat that would have been priced less than $85. We paid a premium for a low rent district.

Arenas have to sell at least two shows at Stones' pricing to get into the black. They have pesky little deals with their season ticket holders to offer them tickets to any event for $X. X is less than a Stones ticket in the areas they have to offer seating. To make up for that loss, they need two nights. Which is why on the last two tours the Stones have skipped arenas in a lot of secondary markets - the arenas wouldn't sign onto their pricing. Markets like NYC, LA, Chicago, the Bay Area can sell two or more nights. However, they did have problems with Boston two years ago and the third Philadelphia show became a DC date.

It's two years later. The Stones want the same or more to tour the U.S. The Stones haven't done anything to have tourists clamoring to fill up arenas more than once in most cities. AEG would like to make a profit. They must have decided their best bet at a profit were secondary markets that the Stones haven't played in 10 to 18 years. Arenas are out. But college football and baseball stadiums are not. They do not have the issues with the pesky contracts that arenas have to honor and have a chance to break even or show a profit.

The Stones make the same regardless of the venue. Once they're paid - the promoter and venue scramble for the crumbs. And that is why we get to see the Stones in a stadium that worships Woody Hayes. More crumbs for AEG and the venue to sweep up than there would be at the United Center in Chicago.

I agree with lots of your comment, but the $85s were not offered at the beginning of the 2013 tour. Initially AEG had a very tight limit on the number of lowest priced seats, which I think were generally offered in the $70-high90s range, but few could get those because of the very limited quantity. AEG was trying to sell almost the entire lower level for the $350-450 price and most of the upper level for prices around $200+. But then they saw that was not going to happen, so they came out with the $85s - and to fill the arenas, thousands of those had to be sold, plus at several arenas they moved to discounting most, or all, of the seats that did not sell initially, except for Vegas - and lots of $85s were sold even for Vegas - so that was "discounting". I had $85s for twelve of the concerts and got in the pit twice and got good seats four other times. As for the other six times, most but not every time, I was able self upgrade to good seats from the nosebleed ones.

The arena issue with season ticket holder rights, is a problem for the Stones, even though I think that only applies to suites in most cases - so its not quite as big an issue as you imply - but its significant. I know, for the new Las Vegas arena being built by AEG/MGM, the season ticket holders for the proposed new NHL team will not have any special rights for tickets other than the NHL games (but ? not sure about any suites there).

It will be interesting to see how sales go for the big stadiums this tour. In 2013, those fans who were patient got better values than those who purchased in the initial sale.

I agree with this post. I was not going to go see them here until they offered the $85 tickets and I got lower bowl for both shows so they did not offer this only for the nose bleeds.

I think they are going to have trouble selling out the stadiums if they don't make the ticket prices reasonable.

When they played the stadium here during the ABB tour I know they offered thousands of free tickets to some of the local companies to fill in the upper decks of the stadium.

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Roadblock for The Rolling Stones to perform in Las Vegas

By Robin Leach
Monday, Feb. 16, 2015 | 5:04 p.m.

Those mid-June plans for a Rolling Stones concert in Las Vegas have hit a roadblock, and I’m told that unless the group changes its mind, the music legends won’t be appearing here.

Is this the TE I met in Stockholm for the Cirkus theatre show during the licks Tour 2003? I was with my wife and you were with your bandmate (Midnight Ramblers)

Originally the British rockers led by Mick Jagger had planned to include Las Vegas as a U.S. “14 On Fire Tour” stop in their current world tour.

The date of June 13 was penciled in at the 16,800-seat MGM Grand Garden Arena, but it turns out that bookings as far away as Europe and Australia have been juggernaut sellouts — in stadiums.

So promoters and management have apparently decided that the group will only play stadiums, not concert halls or arenas.

Even though we have 40,000 seats at Sam Boyd Stadium with room for thousands more standing on the field (remember The Grateful Dead had 125,533 fans there for its final show in 1995), it appears for now that Las Vegas is in jeopardy and struck from The Stones’ current concert plans.

[lasvegassun.com]

So, we never did get any kind of info re. why Sam Boyd Stadium in Las Vegas, NV can't be considered as a possibility for this 2015 summer tour. Even though it's capacity would meet the Stones' requirement for stadiums only this summer. By the way, The Las Vegas Sun, quoted above, is a supplement to the legitimate newspaper for the Vegas area, The Las Vegas Review-Journal. It's not some lying trashy blog like the one we experienced for a while a few months ago which gave us very misleading info re. the Rock-In Rio USA festival May 8-9th of this year.I live in Las Vegas but will gladly go to San Diego if I can possibly score good seats. But of course, if they make a STADIUM stop here I won't need to travel.

Hey Carolyn,
Do the trip to San Diego! Want regret it! Opening night, hard to explain but you go to a show without a clue what they will do for the first 8-10 songs. Go! See you there!

TE
Oslo

Thanks so much for the encouraging words. It's kind of a tricky situation for me because I don't have an American Express card or whatever type of credit card might be required for a pre-sale (if they have a pre-sale offer at all). I am sure that without a pre-sale I won't have any chance of a really good seat. I won't go if I can't have a good seat. I hope that doesn't sound too much like whining...a little little part of me deep inside is stamping my foot right now & crying I will try to obtain whatever kind of card might be useful for a pre-sale but I'm not sure I'll qualify for one just now. In 6 months or a year from now, yes, there would be no problem. I appreciate you're saying I can see you there because another issue I'm having is I will be alone & that sounds almost as depressing as not going at all! Thanks for letting me vent. I'll let you know later. Also, see my email on My profile if you'd like or my Facebook page Carolyn Frieburg Graham. I'll have a 1 hr 5 minute flight from Vegas. Do you live cloze to San Diego?

Not so very close, LOL, roughly a 2+12 hours flight away. Live in Norway.

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