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Bill's a great guy who I think is as happy as can be!!! He's got a great sense of humor, see his Beggar's Banquet issues.
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LieB
Ok. So today is the first time I actually ponder the fact that Bill Graham and Bill German are two different people.
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The BEST book along with Phelges´.
The only "strange" thing is that he is not even mentioned in LIFE even once. He was sooo close for so many years and Keith doesn´t mention him at all. Do you think he might be angry or something ?
Keith or Bill?
Maybe Keith, because of his friend writing a book, tell all, etc
All the same, Keith comes out really good from Bill´s book. Bill seems to have Keith in great esteem.
Bill really seems to be a great and a very, very, honest guy.
The best writer of the lot (and he wrote it himself, no ghostwriter here)
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AlmostHearYouSigh
That set was a train wreck. Broken strings, so high they couldn't hear their guitars. I remember Ronnie kept trying to listen to the sound of his acoustic guitar. I beleive he walked off and came back. It was like all three were out all night and they looked like they had that hang over smell and feeling.....
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...Good on ya!
You familiar with "Tattoo You" yet?!
(Just mercilessly kidding, LieB )
P.S: in all honesty: it has taken me a while, too.
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The BEST book along with Phelges´.
The only "strange" thing is that he is not even mentioned in LIFE even once. He was sooo close for so many years and Keith doesn´t mention him at all. Do you think he might be angry or something ?
Keith or Bill?
Maybe Keith, because of his friend writing a book, tell all, etc
All the same, Keith comes out really good from Bill´s book. Bill seems to have Keith in great esteem.
Bill really seems to be a great and a very, very, honest guy.
The best writer of the lot (and he wrote it himself, no ghostwriter here)
Yeah maybe KR was a little angry at his friend Bill although he didn't have a reason for it like you said..except his usual J&H thing. Some friend KR is: not mentioning his friend BG at all... Politics before friendship. BG had a role as a friend. He was in a coalition without knowing. To honest alright. Naive maybe.
The nasty side of KR is easy to see. If you don't close your eyes while praying gratitude for a lick or two.
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Less hatred makes the world a better place
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The BEST book along with Phelges´.
The only "strange" thing is that he is not even mentioned in LIFE even once. He was sooo close for so many years and Keith doesn´t mention him at all. Do you think he might be angry or something ?
Keith or Bill?
Maybe Keith, because of his friend writing a book, tell all, etc
All the same, Keith comes out really good from Bill´s book. Bill seems to have Keith in great esteem.
Bill really seems to be a great and a very, very, honest guy.
The best writer of the lot (and he wrote it himself, no ghostwriter here)
Yeah maybe KR was a little angry at his friend Bill although he didn't have a reason for it like you said..except his usual J&H thing. Some friend KR is: not mentioning his friend BG at all... Politics before friendship. BG had a role as a friend. He was in a coalition without knowing. To honest alright. Naive maybe.
The nasty side of KR is easy to see. If you don't close your eyes while praying gratitude for a lick or two.
None of us knows how much material recorded and written was taken out when the book was edited. For all we know, Keith may have talked about Bill in the interview process, but ultimately decided it was a part of the book he could leave out. The section on that era was relatively short compared to the rest of the book, but LIFE still ended up being a long book that would have been even longer if everything he talked about was included.
To go from Keith not mentioning Bill German to Keith is a horrible friend is a big stretch...or maybe, naive?
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The BEST book along with Phelges´.
The only "strange" thing is that he is not even mentioned in LIFE even once. He was sooo close for so many years and Keith doesn´t mention him at all. Do you think he might be angry or something ?
Keith or Bill?
Maybe Keith, because of his friend writing a book, tell all, etc
All the same, Keith comes out really good from Bill´s book. Bill seems to have Keith in great esteem.
Bill really seems to be a great and a very, very, honest guy.
The best writer of the lot (and he wrote it himself, no ghostwriter here)
Yeah maybe KR was a little angry at his friend Bill although he didn't have a reason for it like you said..except his usual J&H thing. Some friend KR is: not mentioning his friend BG at all... Politics before friendship. BG had a role as a friend. He was in a coalition without knowing. To honest alright. Naive maybe.
The nasty side of KR is easy to see. If you don't close your eyes while praying gratitude for a lick or two.
None of us knows how much material recorded and written was taken out when the book was edited. For all we know, Keith may have talked about Bill in the interview process, but ultimately decided it was a part of the book he could leave out. The section on that era was relatively short compared to the rest of the book, but LIFE still ended up being a long book that would have been even longer if everything he talked about was included.
To go from Keith not mentioning Bill German to Keith is a horrible friend is a big stretch...or maybe, naive?
To believe KR is some cool hero who lives for friendship is...naive.
Fact: BG really helped a lot keeping the fire burning.
Although they smiled a lot at him he wasn't often treated like that: his facilities were lousy and their cooperation was ridiculously unprofessional while sometimes at the same time they demanded the kid could act as a communication pro. Or even as a courier: you are far worse from being naive when asking and/or expecting someone to do things like that for you...
I never said KR is or was a horrible friend of BG.
I say he wasn't a friend at all. BG was in a coalition without knowing: KR made BG believe he was a friend..that's what's horrible.
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<maybe KR was a little angry at his friend Bill although he didn't have a reason for it... Some friend KR is: not mentioning his FAN? BG at all... Politics before friendship...The nasty side of KR is easy to see. If you don't close your eyes while praying gratitude for a lick or two.>
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The BEST book along with Phelges´.
The only "strange" thing is that he is not even mentioned in LIFE even once. He was sooo close for so many years and Keith doesn´t mention him at all. Do you think he might be angry or something ?
Keith or Bill?
Maybe Keith, because of his friend writing a book, tell all, etc
All the same, Keith comes out really good from Bill´s book. Bill seems to have Keith in great esteem.
Bill really seems to be a great and a very, very, honest guy.
The best writer of the lot (and he wrote it himself, no ghostwriter here)
Yeah maybe KR was a little angry at his friend Bill although he didn't have a reason for it like you said..except his usual J&H thing. Some friend KR is: not mentioning his friend BG at all... Politics before friendship. BG had a role as a friend. He was in a coalition without knowing. To honest alright. Naive maybe.
The nasty side of KR is easy to see. If you don't close your eyes while praying gratitude for a lick or two.
None of us knows how much material recorded and written was taken out when the book was edited. For all we know, Keith may have talked about Bill in the interview process, but ultimately decided it was a part of the book he could leave out. The section on that era was relatively short compared to the rest of the book, but LIFE still ended up being a long book that would have been even longer if everything he talked about was included.
To go from Keith not mentioning Bill German to Keith is a horrible friend is a big stretch...or maybe, naive?
To believe KR is some cool hero who lives for friendship is...naive.
Fact: BG really helped a lot keeping the fire burning.
Although they smiled a lot at him he wasn't often treated like that: his facilities were lousy and their cooperation was ridiculously unprofessional while sometimes at the same time they demanded the kid could act as a communication pro. Or even as a courier: you are far worse from being naive when asking and/or expecting someone to do things like that for you...
I never said KR is or was a horrible friend of BG.
I say he wasn't a friend at all. BG was in a coalition without knowing: KR made BG believe he was a friend..that's what's horrible.
Who said that? I'll accept that you never said he was a horrible friend, but you certainly implied it, in regards to Bill German. Dreamer, the only thing I was referencing was the possible reason that KR did not mention BG in his book. I was trying to point out that, since we don't really know the reasons behind the omission, I don't think you can claim it as exhibit A that Keith was a bad friend to BG. I thought that was what you were talking about too. But, I think there is more to it for you. It isn't worth arguing over really, just two different perspectives. I suppose we all have our own naïvetés...you stick with yours and I'll stick with mine.
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latebloomer
I'm just saying how horrible it is when you think they're your friends and they don't behave like that at all and just laugh behind your back and...well just read everything published before about BG & the RS. Not just a love story...
Okay Dreamer, you just keep on dreaming....peace out.
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Such lovely words.
But you have to practice what you preach my scandinavian Mandela. Or is it Father Theresa? So start accepting people have different opinions and that it's ok for everyone to publish them. That would be a proper attitude.
Now you make it look like there's hatred in someone's opinion just because it's different than yours.
Surprise me and tell me that wasn't your intention at all..?
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bleedingman
Bill got to witness a flatulence contest between Ronnie and Keith. That alone makes up for any travails or potential incarceration for being a drug mule. The ultimate Stones' fan dream come true.
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<maybe KR was a little angry at his friend Bill although he didn't have a reason for it... Some friend KR is: not mentioning his FAN? BG at all... Politics before friendship...The nasty side of KR is easy to see. If you don't close your eyes while praying gratitude for a lick or two.>
Less hatred makes the world a better place
Such lovely words.
But you have to practice what you preach my scandinavian Mandela. Or is it Father Theresa? So start accepting people have different opinions and that it's ok for everyone to publish them. That would be a proper attitude.
Now you make it look like there's hatred in someone's opinion just because it's different than yours.
Surprise me and tell me that wasn't your intention at all..?
Maybe we read eachother wrongly, or maybe we're making this debate more of a show than there's reason for?
No deeper meaning in my post than pointing out what I found a bit hateful, my friend. I'll be the first one to the barricades, fighting for your right to state your opinion.
But was Bill indeed Keith's real friend, or more of a mascot? You tell me
PS: I expected him to mention Bill in his book as well.
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mr_dja
So the gorup think is now coming to the conclusion that KR is a bad person for leaving BG out of his autobiography...
A couple of questions...
Did RW meantion BG in his autobiography?
Did BW meantion BG in any of his books?
How much did KR talk about Jane Rose in his autobiography?
Am I the only one that thinks this is much ado about nothing?
Am I the only one that thinks this is just another opportunity for IORRians to bash KR? Good thing y'all are fans, I'd hate to see the way you'd treat him if you didn't like the Stones.
Note: To Bill German if you happen to see this (I've heard he lurks around here from time to time) I LOVED YOUR BOOK! Hopefully I'll get to attend one of your lectures some day.
Peace,
Mr DJA
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So the group think is now coming to the conclusion that KR is a bad person for leaving BG out of his autobiography...
A couple of questions...
Did RW meantion BG in his autobiography?
Did BW meantion BG in any of his books?
How much did KR talk about Jane Rose in his autobiography?
Am I the only one that thinks this is much ado about nothing?
Am I the only one that thinks this is just another opportunity for IORRians to bash KR? Good thing y'all are fans, I'd hate to see the way you'd treat him if you didn't like the Stones.
Note: To Bill German if you happen to see this (I've heard he lurks around here from time to time) I LOVED YOUR BOOK! Hopefully I'll get to attend one of your lectures some day.
Peace,
Mr DJA