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24FPS
They would need big time instrumental help to do an at least artistically pleasing album. Doom & Gloom is a good example. They pulled off an interesting sound, using their limitations, but it wouldn't work over 12 cuts. They need new blood in the studio, just like they need it on stage. Jack White produced, with Mick Taylor, and even Billy Wyman participating. Jack's got some great piano players working for him.
At this point, I'm about as excited about the Stones in the studio as I am about their setlists and backing musicians. And, if their past behavior is any indication, they'll be just as stubborn about mucking up their studio work. More Mick Jagger on bass?
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KRiffhard
“It would be nice to have a new album, but people don’t like the new album when you play it on stage,” Jagger told USA Today. “They glumly look at you. ‘OK, it will be over in a minute.’ It’s not a good excuse, but it’s the truth and has to be said.”
Dear Mick, people don't like a new album if the new album is like A Bigger Bang or is similar to Goddess in the doorway.
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24FPS
I don't think Bob sounds at all like he's repeating himself, and I think that's one of the reasons he receives so much latter day critical acclaim. The Stones used to lead the pack. They use to have interesting side musicians to have extra color to their sound. Sugar Blue comes to mind, Sonny Rollins.
At this point I have no faith the Stones will pull off something new and interesting, beyond maybe a cut or two, ala Rough Justice or Doom & Gloom. Keith can't play, period. He's having a hard enough time hitting close to most of the notes on the intros of songs he's played a thousand times. The Stones would need some musical help. Keith can still sing. He just needs to quit thinking he's written a new song if it starts with a couple Chuck Berry notes.
They would have to drop their stubbornness and pull in other musicians who could fatten up the sound. The Stones would still be the crux of the music, but they really need more around the edges. An interesting piano player. If Bill won't go along with them, then get a bass player with some soul, not a Stingish jazz doodler who adds no emotional depth, no roll to the rock.
They have shown no artistic bravery on this tour. Are we to believe they will when it comes to making an album? Or will they just make something that they will think, erroneously, sounds enough like Classic Stones, that the less knowledgeable critics will slobber over? In fact, why put that pressure on them? Except for a handful of cuts, their recording career ended with Steel Wheels. It's enough. Go play your hits for the tourists around the world with money to burn, and then relax and enjoy what you got left.
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“It would be nice to have a new album, but people don’t like the new album when you play it on stage,” Jagger told USA Today. “They glumly look at you. ‘OK, it will be over in a minute.’ It’s not a good excuse, but it’s the truth and has to be said.”
Dear Mick, people don't like a new album if the new album is like A Bigger Bang or is similar to Goddess in the doorway.
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“It would be nice to have a new album, but people don’t like the new album when you play it on stage,” Jagger told USA Today. “They glumly look at you. ‘OK, it will be over in a minute.’ It’s not a good excuse, but it’s the truth and has to be said.”
Dear Mick, people don't like a new album if the new album is like A Bigger Bang or is similar to Goddess in the doorway.
I guess if you're going to sell out as big as possible for the biggest price from the lowest common denominator audience, you have to play exactly what they want to hear.
I miss the old Stones that would play the current album they were trying to plug, throw in a few warhorses, a Chuck Berry number, and then leave without an encore! People could stomp and clap and demand, but the Stones were already gliding off in the limo, having a bump, cracking a cold one and lighting up a doob. I miss the 'f&*# you' Stones instead of the bowed, "Yes, sir, no sir, I'll play Honky Tonk Woman, right now" Stones. I prefer Danger Stones to Family Friendly Stones.
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“It would be nice to have a new album, but people don’t like the new album when you play it on stage,” Jagger told USA Today. “They glumly look at you. ‘OK, it will be over in a minute.’ It’s not a good excuse, but it’s the truth and has to be said.”
Dear Mick, people don't like a new album if the new album is like A Bigger Bang or is similar to Goddess in the doorway.
I guess if you're going to sell out as big as possible for the biggest price from the lowest common denominator audience, you have to play exactly what they want to hear.
I miss the old Stones that would play the current album they were trying to plug, throw in a few warhorses, a Chuck Berry number, and then leave without an encore! People could stomp and clap and demand, but the Stones were already gliding off in the limo, having a bump, cracking a cold one and lighting up a doob. I miss the 'f&*# you' Stones instead of the bowed, "Yes, sir, no sir, I'll play Honky Tonk Woman, right now" Stones. I prefer Danger Stones to Family Friendly Stones.
Mick just needs to get the audience involved in any new songs they might play, and (if played often enough) they will take off. We are now seeing exactly that with Out Of Control.
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KRiffhard
“It would be nice to have a new album, but people don’t like the new album when you play it on stage,” Jagger told USA Today. “They glumly look at you. ‘OK, it will be over in a minute.’ It’s not a good excuse, but it’s the truth and has to be said.”
Dear Mick, people don't like a new album if the new album is like A Bigger Bang or is similar to Goddess in the doorway.
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bryanoakville
Please. You guys just can't be pleased.
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stonehearted
^ Even funnier still is that the Beach Boys--the real Beach Boys--have since come up with the goods and toured behind a new album, and a rather good one at that.
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“It would be nice to have a new album, but people don’t like the new album when you play it on stage,” Jagger told USA Today. “They glumly look at you. ‘OK, it will be over in a minute.’ It’s not a good excuse, but it’s the truth and has to be said.”
Dear Mick, people don't like a new album if the new album is like A Bigger Bang or is similar to Goddess in the doorway.
I guess if you're going to sell out as big as possible for the biggest price from the lowest common denominator audience, you have to play exactly what they want to hear.
I miss the old Stones that would play the current album they were trying to plug, throw in a few warhorses, a Chuck Berry number, and then leave without an encore! People could stomp and clap and demand, but the Stones were already gliding off in the limo, having a bump, cracking a cold one and lighting up a doob. I miss the 'f&*# you' Stones instead of the bowed, "Yes, sir, no sir, I'll play Honky Tonk Woman, right now" Stones. I prefer Danger Stones to Family Friendly Stones.
Mick just needs to get the audience involved in any new songs they might play, and (if played often enough) they will take off. We are now seeing exactly that with Out Of Control.
To me, that's what 'One More Shot' seemed like, with the whole 'Na na na, na na na, na na' part, Mick trying to get some audience participation. Too bad they seem to have limited the 'new' material to just the rocking 'Doom & Gloom'...Quote
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“It would be nice to have a new album, but people don’t like the new album when you play it on stage,” Jagger told USA Today. “They glumly look at you. ‘OK, it will be over in a minute.’ It’s not a good excuse, but it’s the truth and has to be said.”
Dear Mick, people don't like a new album if the new album is like A Bigger Bang or is similar to Goddess in the doorway.
I guess if you're going to sell out as big as possible for the biggest price from the lowest common denominator audience, you have to play exactly what they want to hear.
I miss the old Stones that would play the current album they were trying to plug, throw in a few warhorses, a Chuck Berry number, and then leave without an encore! People could stomp and clap and demand, but the Stones were already gliding off in the limo, having a bump, cracking a cold one and lighting up a doob. I miss the 'f&*# you' Stones instead of the bowed, "Yes, sir, no sir, I'll play Honky Tonk Woman, right now" Stones. I prefer Danger Stones to Family Friendly Stones.
Mick just needs to get the audience involved in any new songs they might play, and (if played often enough) they will take off. We are now seeing exactly that with Out Of Control.
I think that's exactly right. It's too bad they can't do that more with new material, but its great when it does happen.
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“It would be nice to have a new album, but people don’t like the new album when you play it on stage,” Jagger told USA Today. “They glumly look at you. ‘OK, it will be over in a minute.’ It’s not a good excuse, but it’s the truth and has to be said.”
Dear Mick, people don't like a new album if the new album is like A Bigger Bang or is similar to Goddess in the doorway.
I guess if you're going to sell out as big as possible for the biggest price from the lowest common denominator audience, you have to play exactly what they want to hear.
I miss the old Stones that would play the current album they were trying to plug, throw in a few warhorses, a Chuck Berry number, and then leave without an encore! People could stomp and clap and demand, but the Stones were already gliding off in the limo, having a bump, cracking a cold one and lighting up a doob. I miss the 'f&*# you' Stones instead of the bowed, "Yes, sir, no sir, I'll play Honky Tonk Woman, right now" Stones. I prefer Danger Stones to Family Friendly Stones.
Mick just needs to get the audience involved in any new songs they might play, and (if played often enough) they will take off. We are now seeing exactly that with Out Of Control.
I think that's exactly right. It's too bad they can't do that more with new material, but its great when it does happen.
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BeforeTheyMakeMeRunTo me, that's what 'One More Shot' seemed like, with the whole 'Na na na, na na na, na na' part, Mick trying to get some audience participation. Too bad they seem to have limited the 'new' material to just the rocking 'Doom & Gloom'...Quote
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“It would be nice to have a new album, but people don’t like the new album when you play it on stage,” Jagger told USA Today. “They glumly look at you. ‘OK, it will be over in a minute.’ It’s not a good excuse, but it’s the truth and has to be said.”
Dear Mick, people don't like a new album if the new album is like A Bigger Bang or is similar to Goddess in the doorway.
I guess if you're going to sell out as big as possible for the biggest price from the lowest common denominator audience, you have to play exactly what they want to hear.
I miss the old Stones that would play the current album they were trying to plug, throw in a few warhorses, a Chuck Berry number, and then leave without an encore! People could stomp and clap and demand, but the Stones were already gliding off in the limo, having a bump, cracking a cold one and lighting up a doob. I miss the 'f&*# you' Stones instead of the bowed, "Yes, sir, no sir, I'll play Honky Tonk Woman, right now" Stones. I prefer Danger Stones to Family Friendly Stones.
Mick just needs to get the audience involved in any new songs they might play, and (if played often enough) they will take off. We are now seeing exactly that with Out Of Control.
I think that's exactly right. It's too bad they can't do that more with new material, but its great when it does happen.
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BeforeTheyMakeMeRunTo me, that's what 'One More Shot' seemed like, with the whole 'Na na na, na na na, na na' part, Mick trying to get some audience participation. Too bad they seem to have limited the 'new' material to just the rocking 'Doom & Gloom'...Quote
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“It would be nice to have a new album, but people don’t like the new album when you play it on stage,” Jagger told USA Today. “They glumly look at you. ‘OK, it will be over in a minute.’ It’s not a good excuse, but it’s the truth and has to be said.”
Dear Mick, people don't like a new album if the new album is like A Bigger Bang or is similar to Goddess in the doorway.
I guess if you're going to sell out as big as possible for the biggest price from the lowest common denominator audience, you have to play exactly what they want to hear.
I miss the old Stones that would play the current album they were trying to plug, throw in a few warhorses, a Chuck Berry number, and then leave without an encore! People could stomp and clap and demand, but the Stones were already gliding off in the limo, having a bump, cracking a cold one and lighting up a doob. I miss the 'f&*# you' Stones instead of the bowed, "Yes, sir, no sir, I'll play Honky Tonk Woman, right now" Stones. I prefer Danger Stones to Family Friendly Stones.
Mick just needs to get the audience involved in any new songs they might play, and (if played often enough) they will take off. We are now seeing exactly that with Out Of Control.
I think that's exactly right. It's too bad they can't do that more with new material, but its great when it does happen.
I actually like One More Shot better than Doom And Gloom. Not sure why they put it on the shelf, but I think it has more potential live than D&G. Sly Stone thought enough of it to put it in his latest movie Grudge Match.
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Felix0452
Thanks for all of the above and for your personal opinions. I didn't think that my question would have created such an interest.
Keep on rockin !
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crumbling_mice
Personally I would rather they didn;t record a new album. ABB was dire in every way and more of that is diluting their prvious brilliant recording history. However, should they make the obvious choice to record a fine album of country, R&B and reggae songs then I'm first in line with my cash.
Jagger and Richards as song writing entities are done. There comes a point for all song writers when whether it is a time and place thing or some other factor, output drops significantly in quality and for them it happened in 1977. Yes, there have been odd flashes of brilliance over the decades but the prolific output of quality music has been fading since that point and 2014 isn't goin to be the year where they come up with another album worthy of their status.
So, the obvious way forward to please themselves as performers and us as fans is to go back to what they love hence R&B, blues, COuntry, Reggae, even a bit of jazz in there and record their favourite songs, stripped back a la 'Stripped'. I am sure it would be a success with both sritics and fans alike and it's the one thing they haven't done that I've been waiting for. Perfect timing in the timeline of their careers and could easily be taken on the road as a smaller venue setlist.
But please, no more attempts at rock songs, Doom and Gloom just about cut it but 70 year olds writing rock songs isn't the way forward.
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GasLightStreet
If the Stones had stopped after UNDERCOVER and the final bow with REWIND and then decided to do a comeback with a new LP it makes the most sense that the one LP should be BRIDGES TO BABYLON. Because between U and BTB there was barely anything that was very good and BTB was a well rounded LP for the most part.
What I found annoying about the LICKS release was that
1. Don't Stop was the only song played live of the 4 new songs (which says a lot in a way considering they at one point did play both of all 2 new songs from what should've been called FIFTY LICKS).
2. It was 4 new songs, 2 of which were decent (Don't Stop, Losing My Touch - I like Keith's soft touch as it basically fits in with what he did on BRIDGES. Yeah I know it's not as good but it's got the right vibe), which means it should've been 2 new songs.
3. The 4 new songs weakened the value of the hits comp by replacing 4 hits/singles/LP faves. What should've/could've been on it is She's So Cold, Doo Doo Doo Doo Doo (Heartbreaker), Waiting On A Friend and... I dunno, Hang Fire. You get the point.
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GasLightStreet
He does?
Not that I've read.
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“It would be nice to have a new album, but people don’t like the new album when you play it on stage,” Jagger told USA Today. “They glumly look at you. ‘OK, it will be over in a minute.’ It’s not a good excuse, but it’s the truth and has to be said.”
Dear Mick, people don't like a new album if the new album is like A Bigger Bang or is similar to Goddess in the doorway.
I guess if you're going to sell out as big as possible for the biggest price from the lowest common denominator audience, you have to play exactly what they want to hear.
I miss the old Stones that would play the current album they were trying to plug, throw in a few warhorses, a Chuck Berry number, and then leave without an encore! People could stomp and clap and demand, but the Stones were already gliding off in the limo, having a bump, cracking a cold one and lighting up a doob. I miss the 'f&*# you' Stones instead of the bowed, "Yes, sir, no sir, I'll play Honky Tonk Woman, right now" Stones. I prefer Danger Stones to Family Friendly Stones.