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Meise
It has some of the "moments" such as Mick Taylors guitar playing, the initial riff and the chorus melody in general. But overally speaking it lacks energy and the certain spark to make it a classic Stones tune. It's an album filler, not more. Probably it was used a second side opener (LP wise speaking), as there were no better choices and Star Star was consider as the album closer.
Always liked Johnny Winter's version better.
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Silver Dagger
Never filler with a Mick Taylor solo like that.
It's beautiful simplicity like this that allowed Mick Taylor to become airborne, to really reach out and let go. Stop Breaking Down is another one that provided the launchpad for some stellar Taylor playing. Keep it simple and then watch that boy fly.
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Silver Dagger
Never filler with a Mick Taylor solo like that.
It's beautiful simplicity like this that allowed Mick Taylor to become airborne, to really reach out and let go. Stop Breaking Down is another one that provided the launchpad for some stellar Taylor playing. Keep it simple and then watch that boy fly.
Can't really much argue with that one!
But as far ar "Stop Breaking Down" goes, I think it is absolutely hottest of the hottest by anyone involved there, not just Taylor...
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Mathijs
To me its actually one of the very first tracks where the Stones sound cliche. For 10 years just about everything they did was special, fresh and new, and this is the first track where they seem to repeat themselves. It's a bit parody, it sounds like another band wanted to write 'a Stones track in open G".
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Doxa
Good points, Dandie (although you should probably listen some years more to state things like that...)
Probably that kind of lacking interplay between the guitars might be something to do with what Keith has said about GOATS HEAD SOUP - that of them getting lazy. Probably that kind of 'shit, we need to nail this @#$%& down, no matter how much it takes' attitude and/or focus/determination might have lacked at the time.
Probably that of laziness has something to do with creativity as well. What in EXILE was still like if not totally a novel but still a fresh thing in process - they were just nailing the thing they had been inspired for some years, but they now were making a final and ultimate realization of the whole idea. Putting there everything they have and know, like a master thesis. In "Silver Train", and more stronger in some IT'S ONLY ROCK'N'ROLL tracks (a'la "If You Can't Rock Me"), there is not that kind of authentic and fresh inspiration any longer present, but more like re-making something they had already mastered. One cannot underestemate the effect of inspiration, or the lack of it, to the final product. Probably when there is no real inspiration, it easier to get lazy as well...
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Mathijs
To me its actually one of the very first tracks where the Stones sound cliche. For 10 years just about everything they did was special, fresh and new, and this is the first track where they seem to repeat themselves. It's a bit parody, it sounds like another band wanted to write 'a Stones track in open G".
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Mathijs
To me its actually one of the very first tracks where the Stones sound cliche. For 10 years just about everything they did was special, fresh and new, and this is the first track where they seem to repeat themselves. It's a bit parody, it sounds like another band wanted to write 'a Stones track in open G".
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Mathijs
To me its actually one of the very first tracks where the Stones sound cliche. For 10 years just about everything they did was special, fresh and new, and this is the first track where they seem to repeat themselves. It's a bit parody, it sounds like another band wanted to write 'a Stones track in open G".
Mathijs
Goats Head Soup is the first album where they became a parody but the most obvious song on the album where they do that is Star Star, as Doxa points out.
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To me its actually one of the very first tracks where the Stones sound cliché. It's a bit parody, it sounds like another band wanted to write 'a Stones track in open G".
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Chris Fountain
I wonder how received Goat's Head Soup would have been if they kept Tops and WOF. and ditched Star Star and Train Wreck.
It would had screwed up the configuration of Tattoo You. So all is well.
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Chris Fountain
I wonder how received Goat's Head Soup would have been if they kept Tops and WOF. and ditched Star Star and Train Wreck.
It would had screwed up the configuration of Tattoo You. So all is well.
Too bad those songs weren't finished.
Same with Worried About You, Start Me Up and Slave. Those tracks would have made Black And Blue a classic, imo.