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Sounds like it did not go well for fans during ticket sales for new Paul McCartney tour ...[www.nme.com]
It didn't go well for those who didn't get the tickets they wanted. However I would say it went really well for the promoters and Paul McCartney.
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johnnythunders
Sounds like it did not go well for fans during ticket sales for new Paul McCartney tour ...[www.nme.com]
It didn't go well for those who didn't get the tickets they wanted. However I would say it went really well for the promoters and Paul McCartney.
No doubt ... a ticket sold is a ticket sold I guess ? Regardless of who buys it in the end, either for very little or for a huge mark-up ?
This is why in order to curb these insane exploitative and deceitful excesses of the 'secondary market' - the real initiative has to come from artists and their managers. It would seem that as yet, McCartney and/or his management hasn't/haven't come round to the same way of thinking as say Sheeran, Taylor Swift etc - to name but two. At least they seem aware of the extent to which their fans are getting royally f***ed by these organisations and the various shenanigans they involve themselves in. Judging by his silence on the matter, McCartney either isn't, or worse still - doesn't give a toss !
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johnnythunders
Sounds like it did not go well for fans during ticket sales for new Paul McCartney tour ...[www.nme.com]
It didn't go well for those who didn't get the tickets they wanted. However I would say it went really well for the promoters and Paul McCartney.
No doubt ... a ticket sold is a ticket sold I guess ? Regardless of who buys it in the end, either for very little or for a huge mark-up ?
This is why in order to curb these insane exploitative and deceitful excesses of the 'secondary market' - the real initiative has to come from artists and their managers. It would seem that as yet, McCartney and/or his management hasn't/haven't come round to the same way of thinking as say Sheeran, Taylor Swift etc - to name but two. At least they seem aware of the extent to which their fans are getting royally f***ed by these organisations and the various shenanigans they involve themselves in. Judging by his silence on the matter, McCartney either isn't, or worse still - doesn't give a toss !
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johnnythunders
Sounds like it did not go well for fans during ticket sales for new Paul McCartney tour ...[www.nme.com]
It didn't go well for those who didn't get the tickets they wanted. However I would say it went really well for the promoters and Paul McCartney.
No doubt ... a ticket sold is a ticket sold I guess ? Regardless of who buys it in the end, either for very little or for a huge mark-up ?
This is why in order to curb these insane exploitative and deceitful excesses of the 'secondary market' - the real initiative has to come from artists and their managers. It would seem that as yet, McCartney and/or his management hasn't/haven't come round to the same way of thinking as say Sheeran, Taylor Swift etc - to name but two. At least they seem aware of the extent to which their fans are getting royally f***ed by these organisations and the various shenanigans they involve themselves in. Judging by his silence on the matter, McCartney either isn't, or worse still - doesn't give a toss !
What has Taylor Swift done, other than max price her tickets and rope her fans into pyramid schemes for access?
Paul McCartney has a inordinate amount of platinum priced tickets and many of the tickets on the secondary market are placed there by his team. If unsold, they end up on the primary again at some point.
And one more thing often overlooked is that for some reason, Ticketmaster at least, for major events initially releases tickets in small batches with a bigger block coming between 10:10 - 10:20 though now TM has some bizarre policy of blocking customers after 3 click throughs. To deter scalpers or pressure you into buying whatever garbage you are offered first?
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johnnythunders
Sounds like it did not go well for fans during ticket sales for new Paul McCartney tour ...[www.nme.com]
It didn't go well for those who didn't get the tickets they wanted. However I would say it went really well for the promoters and Paul McCartney.
No doubt ... a ticket sold is a ticket sold I guess ? Regardless of who buys it in the end, either for very little or for a huge mark-up ?
This is why in order to curb these insane exploitative and deceitful excesses of the 'secondary market' - the real initiative has to come from artists and their managers. It would seem that as yet, McCartney and/or his management hasn't/haven't come round to the same way of thinking as say Sheeran, Taylor Swift etc - to name but two. At least they seem aware of the extent to which their fans are getting royally f***ed by these organisations and the various shenanigans they involve themselves in. Judging by his silence on the matter, McCartney either isn't, or worse still - doesn't give a toss !
What has Taylor Swift done, other than max price her tickets and rope her fans into pyramid schemes for access?
Paul McCartney has a inordinate amount of platinum priced tickets and many of the tickets on the secondary market are placed there by his team. If unsold, they end up on the primary again at some point.
And one more thing often overlooked is that for some reason, Ticketmaster at least, for major events initially releases tickets in small batches with a bigger block coming between 10:10 - 10:20 though now TM has some bizarre policy of blocking customers after 3 click throughs. To deter scalpers or pressure you into buying whatever garbage you are offered first?
Or in other words 'bait and switch'. In such circumstances, it's best to wait until the last gasp when all these parasites and chancers sh*t their pants and are forced to sell or suffer a total loss. I can get to the O2 Arena quickly, cheaply and at short notice and that's what I'll end up doing here.
When there are months to go before show day, it's easy to create a false impression of high demand. The clock running down soon finds them out.
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Leonioid
^ Sad situation.... and is why I do not have a huge issue (which the whiners do) with The Stones selling their tickets for so much money these days. The Stones seem to have mastered the art of sliding pricing... the further back a ticket is the cheaper it gets... then they toss in lucky dips and it is a pretty way to price tickets. The Stones price their tickets at what the market will bear.
It is a shame all that money being made by resellers (an extra 300 bucks) is not going to the charity.
If the Stones sold all tickets for $50.00 the exact same thing would happen, The Stones would loss the money given to scalpers.
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grzegorz67
Hmmmm. Interesting:
Ticketmaster to close Seatwave and Getmein in October. That still leaves us with Viagogo and Stubhub but it’s a start and gets rid of rhe ludicrous conflict of interest that is Ticketmaster’s ownership of those sites.
[www.bbc.co.uk]
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grzegorz67
Hmmmm. Interesting:
Ticketmaster to close Seatwave and Getmein in October. That still leaves us with Viagogo and Stubhub but it’s a start and gets rid of rhe ludicrous conflict of interest that is Ticketmaster’s ownership of those sites.
[www.bbc.co.uk]
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Leonioid
^ Sad situation.... and is why I do not have a huge issue (which the whiners do) with The Stones selling their tickets for so much money these days. The Stones seem to have mastered the art of sliding pricing... the further back a ticket is the cheaper it gets... then they toss in lucky dips and it is a pretty way to price tickets. The Stones price their tickets at what the market will bear.
It is a shame all that money being made by resellers (an extra 300 bucks) is not going to the charity.
If the Stones sold all tickets for $50.00 the exact same thing would happen, The Stones would loss the money given to scalpers.
They could stop it at a stroke by personalising all the tickets i.e. your name is printed on the tickets and you’re ID’d on the way in. That way they can’t be resold so the touts are wasting their time and money buying them. The Stones did that in Barcelona last year. I had to show my passport.
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glimmertwinz
I remember Barcelona last year, and it was a nightmare. Ridiculous waiting times and checks.
Most gigs festivals that I have been to, I have benefited from cheap tickets through the scalpers.
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straycatuk
I don't know what the average concert goer will gain from these closures ?
I predict that more and more tickets will be wrapped up in expensive packages and VIP sections, especially with older acts who traditionally have wealthier audiences. The Stones and Macca been the most obvious ones. The ticket agencies and THE ARTISTS will just find another way to extract every last penny.
I'm either leaving it until a few days before or turning up tickeless on the day from now on. I did 10 shows on this summer's No Filter and only paid full price once for the section I was in .We well and truly turned over the resellers and it felt GOOD.
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Stoneage
Neoliberals overhere are talking about entrepreneurship all the time. That everyone should be an entrepreneur. How good it is for the economy. I would be sad
to see such an industrious entrepreneurship as ticket scalping go. The free market in all its glory. What's the matter with you? Have you all become communists?
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glimmertwinz
I remember Barcelona last year, and it was a nightmare. Ridiculous waiting times and checks.
Most gigs festivals that I have been to, I have benefited from cheap tickets through the scalpers.
I turned up early and it was fine. A bit slow, but with patience, fine.
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Stoneage
Okey, Grzegorz. But ticket scalping works like the stock market. You buy shares, holds on to them for a while and then sell them on. To either a gain or a loss. No one is complaining about the stock market...
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I remember Barcelona last year, and it was a nightmare. Ridiculous waiting times and checks.
Most gigs festivals that I have been to, I have benefited from cheap tickets through the scalpers.
I turned up early and it was fine. A bit slow, but with patience, fine.
My bladder almost exploded!!! lol
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Stoneage
Okey, Grzegorz. But ticket scalping works like the stock market. You buy shares, holds on to them for a while and then sell them on. To either a gain or a loss. No one is complaining about the stock market...
A ridiculous and invalid analogy. Everyone who buys and sells on the stockmarket is free to buy and sell at a time of their choosing, in trading hours.
By use of complex algorithms and other underhand tactics, the ticket touts are obstructing those who want to actually consume the service offered i.e. a concert. They are interfering and providing nothing of any value whatsoever themselves. Parasites.
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I remember Barcelona last year, and it was a nightmare. Ridiculous waiting times and checks.
Most gigs festivals that I have been to, I have benefited from cheap tickets through the scalpers.
I turned up early and it was fine. A bit slow, but with patience, fine.
My bladder almost exploded!!! lol
There was a swimming pool down the road from the queue letting queueng fans use the toilet. Once inside, I went to the loo once and ran in and grabbed my spot at the end of the Catwalk. (in GC) No beer before the show or else my bladder would have exploded too . 2 years ago, I got front row dead centre at a Macca concert in Belgium (Rock Werchter) and went 16 hours without a loo trip...
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grzegorz67
Hmmmm. Interesting:
Ticketmaster to close Seatwave and Getmein in October. That still leaves us with Viagogo and Stubhub but it’s a start and gets rid of rhe ludicrous conflict of interest that is Ticketmaster’s ownership of those sites.
[www.bbc.co.uk]
Same story here:
[www.independent.co.uk]
Anyway, two a**hole industrial scale scalping sites down, that leaves two to go (Stubhub and Viagogo) ..........
With luck it won't be long before they're history !!
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Stoneage
Okey, Grzegorz. But ticket scalping works like the stock market. You buy shares, holds on to them for a while and then sell them on. To either a gain or a loss. No one is complaining about the stock market...
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straycatuk
I don't know what the average concert goer will gain from these closures ?
I predict that more and more tickets will be wrapped up in expensive packages and VIP sections, especially with older acts who traditionally have wealthier audiences. The Stones and Macca been the most obvious ones. The ticket agencies and THE ARTISTS will just find another way to extract every last penny.
I'm either leaving it until a few days before or turning up tickeless on the day from now on. I did 10 shows on this summer's No Filter and only paid full price once for the section I was in .We well and truly turned over the resellers and it felt GOOD.
sc uk