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Nate
Good news I really hope they come down real hard on these vultures some gargantuan financial fines,prison sentences and 500 lashings at dawn would be most welcome.
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MingSubu
People need to avoid these secondary sites. Selling tickets before they have them is wrong. Also, tickets going right to these secondary sellers, whether being bought up by or owned by original ticket distributer, is just wrong and needs to end.
However, Ms turnhill is to blame regarding her situation. She didn't look at her "cart" and the total? Fees tacked on tickets have been the unfortunate norm for decades now too. She comes across as a poor consumer.
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MingSubu
People need to avoid these secondary sites. Selling tickets before they have them is wrong. Also, tickets going right to these secondary sellers, whether being bought up by or owned by original ticket distributer, is just wrong and needs to end.
However, Ms turnhill is to blame regarding her situation. She didn't look at her "cart" and the total? Fees tacked on tickets have been the unfortunate norm for decades now too. She comes across as a poor consumer.
I completely agree, she comes across as hopelessly naïve and plain silly in fact ... a very 'poor consumer' indeed. But I think that's one of the problems that this entire (entertainment) industry faces today. The secondary market phenomenon has grown to such huge proportions that your average consumer who isn't a regular gig goer is often completely unaware that there are primary ticket vendors, and then there are these secondary sites. They can't tell the difference. It's just ignorance, because the lines between the primaries and the 'secondaries' have become increasingly blurred over recent years, other than to those who are reasonably 'switched on' !
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MingSubu
People need to avoid these secondary sites. Selling tickets before they have them is wrong. Also, tickets going right to these secondary sellers, whether being bought up by or owned by original ticket distributer, is just wrong and needs to end.
However, Ms turnhill is to blame regarding her situation. She didn't look at her "cart" and the total? Fees tacked on tickets have been the unfortunate norm for decades now too. She comes across as a poor consumer.
I completely agree, she comes across as hopelessly naïve and plain silly in fact ... a very 'poor consumer' indeed. But I think that's one of the problems that this entire (entertainment) industry faces today. The secondary market phenomenon has grown to such huge proportions that your average consumer who isn't a regular gig goer is often completely unaware that there are primary ticket vendors, and then there are these secondary sites. They can't tell the difference. It's just ignorance, because the lines between the primaries and the 'secondaries' have become increasingly blurred over recent years, other than to those who are reasonably 'switched on' !
Lets be kind and say she was naive but tbh if I hadn't bought tickets for 10 years and was perhaps ignorant of Google Adwords I too would click on the result at top of the page!
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Stoneage
Seems like a lucrative business, ticket scalping. Maybe it should be taught at colleges around the world? So the kids know how to make a dollar or two on the streets? Why not? Ticket scalping may be something good?
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paulywaul
Really interesting article, thanks for posting.
It does mention that there's an investigation/inquiry in progress at the moment (here in the UK), because it's finally been recognised that the functioning of the secondary market is by and large ALWAYS to the detriment of the ticket buying public/consumer.
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paulywaul
Lucy Lovell had no idea what the difference was between primary and secondary tickets when she decided to treat her rugby-mad family to see England v Italy at Twickenham in the Six Nations tournament.
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But two months after she paid – and just three weeks before the big day – StubHub emailed to say the seller was “unable to complete the sale”. Instead, the family was offered tickets 25 rows from the pitch for a 3% discount. “We decided not to go and did get a full refund, but we missed out on the dream. It was a dire, dire experience. You’re not buying a ticket, you’re buying a potential ticket.”
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paulywaul
Really interesting article, thanks for posting.
It does mention that there's an investigation/inquiry in progress at the moment (here in the UK), because it's finally been recognised that the functioning of the secondary market is by and large ALWAYS to the detriment of the ticket buying public/consumer.
What a bunch of hyperbole.
The consumer sets the prices. If the consumer doesn't pay, then the price comes down.
Here in Los Angeles where are many major events nightly about 362 days a year, I have friends who go to a few concerts a week, only buying on the secondary and only at low prices. For years most of my concert tickets were only purchased on the secondary market. With the exception of the time I paid $6 for a Bozz Scaggs ticket with a $1 face, I have never overpaid.
Tomorrow's A Perfect Circle show at the Hollywood Bowl is currently at $6.
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What utter garbage ! The bit you don't seem to get is this ... that the ARTIST sets the price ! Not the consumer, the ARTIST !
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If the 'event' market was functioning even 'vaguely' normally, and not by contrast as it currently does (i.e. completely riddled with wilful manipulation, gross deceit, and fraudulent malpractice) ... you wouldn't be seeing investigation after investigation taking place, nor would you be seeing the entire 'secondary market' phenomenon coming under the intense scrutiny that it currently is.
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O great, a $6 ticket to see something or other from f***ing miles away in the proverbial roof rafters ... how absolutely enthralling, and what fantastic 'value for money' (NOT). Are you nuts ? Hardly a fitting example of a healthy functioning market based on 'supply & demand' alone !! I note you don't mention the prices of the Garden or Terrace Boxes ? Are THEY representative of prices actually set by the ARTIST, or are they invariably inflated significantly above ?
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The secondary market phenomenon has now run away with itself to the point that some of form of government intervention is looking like it's inevitable, at least here in the UK. Not a day overdue in my opinion, it can't come soon enough.