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Re: Rolling Stones - a blues band
Posted by: 1962 ()
Date: May 19, 2014 15:23

Here is DOXA's testimony from 2008!


The Definitive Rolling Stones Blues Collection
Posted by: Doxa ()
Date: September 14, 2008 21:19

1963
- “I Want To Be Loved” (B-side of “Come On”)
- “Stoned” (B-side of “I Wanna Be Your Man”)
1964
- “Little By Little” (B-side of “Not Fade Away”)
- ”I Just Want To Make Love To You” (The Rolling Stones)
- “Honest I Do” (The Rolling Stones)
- “Mona” (he Rolling Stones)
- “King Bee” (The Rolling Stones)
- “Walking The Dog” (The Rolling Stones)
- “Good Times, Bad Times” (B-side of “It’s All Over Now”)
- “2120 South Michigan Avenue” (Five by Five EP)
- “Confessin’ The Blues” (Five by Five EP)
- “Little Red Rooster” (Single A-side)
- “What A Shame” (B-side of US single “Heart of Stone”)
1965
- “Down Home Girl” (The Rolling Stones no. 2)
- “I Can’t Be Satisfied” (The Rolling Stones no. 2)
- “The Under Assistant West-Coast Promotion Man” (B-side of “Satisfaction”)
- “The Spider & The Fly” (US album Out of Our Heads)
- “Talkin’ Bout You” (UK album Out of Our Heads)
- “Look What You’ve Done” (US album December’s Children)
1966-1969
- “Doncha Bother Me” (Aftermath)
- “High & Dry” (Aftermath)
- “Who’s Driving Your Plane?” (B-side of “Have You Seen Your Mother, Baby?”)
- “No Expectations” (Beggars Banquet)
- “Parachute Woman” (Beggars Banquet)
- “Prodigal Son” (Beggars Banquet)
- “Love In Vain” (Let It Bleed)
- “Midnight Rambler” (Let It Bleed)
1970’s
- "Cvcksucker Blues" (a possible single)
- “Love In Vain” (LIVE: Get Yer Ya-Ya’s Out!)
- “You Gotta Move” (Sticky Fingers)
- “I Got The Blues” (Sticky Fingers)
- “Hip Shake” (Exile)
- “Ventilator Blues” (Exile)
- “Stop Breakin’ Down” (Exile)
- “Hide Your Love” (Goats Head Soap)
- "Short&Curlies" (It's Only Rock'n'Roll)
- “Melody” (Black&Blue)
- “You Gotta Move” (LIVE: Love You Live)
- “Mannish Boy” (LIVE: Love You Live)
- “Little Red Rooster” (LIVE: Love You Live)
- "Some Girls" (Some Girls)
1980’s
- “Down In The Hole” (Emotional Rescue)
- “Black Limousine” (Tattoo You)
- "Tie You Up" (Undercover)
- “Fancy Man Blues” (B-side of “Mixed Emotions”)
- “Cook Cook Blues” (B-side of “Rock&Hard Place”)
- "Wish I'd Never Met You" (B-side of "Terrifying"winking smiley
1990’s
- “Little Red Rooster” (LIVE: Flashpoint)
- “I Just Want To Make Love To You” (LIVE: B-side of “Highwire”)
- “Brand New Car” (Voodoo Lounge)
- “The Storm” (B-side of “Love Is Strong”)
- “So Young” (B-side of “Love Is Strong”)
- “Jump Top of Me” (B-side of “You Got Me Rocking”)
- “Black Limousine” (LIVE: B-side of “Like A Rolling Stone”)
- “Spider And The Fly” (Stripped)
- “Love In Vain” (Stripped)
- “Little Baby” (Stripped)
- “Might Well As Get Juiced” (Bridges to Babylon)
- "Paying The Cost to be The Boss" WITH B.B.KING (King: Deuces Wild)
- "Honest I Do" (the soundtrack of Hope Floats)
- “Corinna” (LIVE: No Security)
2000’s
- “Rock me, Baby” (LIVE: Live Licks)
- “Back of My Hand” (A Bigger Bang)
- “Hurricane” (Give-away-CD)
- "Champaigne & Keefer" (LIVE: Shine A Light)

Re: Rolling Stones - a blues band
Posted by: noughties ()
Date: May 19, 2014 15:28

I don`t agree. They`re a rock band. "Back of My Hand" shows how wrong it can go.

Re: Rolling Stones - a blues band
Posted by: 1962 ()
Date: May 19, 2014 15:53

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noughties
I don`t agree. They`re a rock band. "Back of My Hand" shows how wrong it can go.

No they are not a rock band. (without the roll)

Fundamentally they are BLUES and ROCK AND ROLL.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2014-05-19 16:03 by 1962.

Re: Rolling Stones - a blues band
Posted by: BroomWagon ()
Date: May 19, 2014 16:04

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noughties
I don`t agree. They`re a rock band. "Back of My Hand" shows how wrong it can go.

thumbs up True, if they are a Blues band, then they are a Reggae and Rhythm and Blues and a Disco band too. It's a bit forced to call them a Blues Band.

Pop Band, Rock Band, Rock 'N' Roll Band.

We just had a thread where the top 5 American Rock Bands were named in posters' opinions. Rock should be basically interchangeable with Rock 'n' Roll though there may well be a subtle difference. Rock bands has been a common term used to now, all of a sudden, revert to rock 'n' roll band.



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Re: Rolling Stones - a blues band
Posted by: thegroove ()
Date: May 20, 2014 20:36

The Stones have evolved into a totally unique sound.Totally original.Blues based at their core.How often you hear someone say that another band sounds like the Rolling Stones?

Re: Rolling Stones - a blues band
Date: May 20, 2014 21:48

The Stones can do country as good as any country band around. Would love to see them don some Cowboy hats and do an all country album, just for fun.

Re: Rolling Stones - a blues band
Date: May 20, 2014 21:50

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thegroove
The Stones have evolved into a totally unique sound.Totally original.Blues based at their core.How often you hear someone say that another band sounds like the Rolling Stones?

Exactly, and that is why they are the greatest of all time. Yes, better than the Beatles!

Re: Rolling Stones - a blues band
Posted by: waterrats ()
Date: May 20, 2014 22:10

They're a blues band!

... in their roots! And they never forget that! They even were Blues purists, everybody can read that from the reports of the early years.

Doesn't mean that they have to stay like that for 50 years on stage though, now does it? grinning smiley

I loved the video of 'I can't be satisfied'! So many thanks for that - unbelievably I must have missed it somehow...



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2014-05-20 22:11 by waterrats.

Re: Rolling Stones - a blues band
Posted by: His Majesty ()
Date: May 20, 2014 22:54

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waterrats
They even were Blues purists, everybody can read that from the reports of the early years.

Not a blues band and never blues purists. tongue sticking out smiley

Re: Rolling Stones - a blues band
Posted by: BluzDude ()
Date: May 20, 2014 23:08

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His Majesty
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waterrats
They even were Blues purists, everybody can read that from the reports of the early years.

Not a blues band and never blues purists. tongue sticking out smiley

I would not call them a blues band now...but they do play some blues and play it well.

I would not call them blues purists either.

...but in 1964 with the release of their first album, I think I would call that blues.

Re: Rolling Stones - a blues band
Posted by: His Majesty ()
Date: May 20, 2014 23:37

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BluzDude

but they do play some blues and play it well.

...but in 1964 with the release of their first album, I think I would call that blues.

Some of it is R&B, but some of it isn't.

Re: Rolling Stones - a blues band
Posted by: BluzDude ()
Date: May 20, 2014 23:48

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His Majesty
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BluzDude

but they do play some blues and play it well.

...but in 1964 with the release of their first album, I think I would call that blues.

Some of it is R&B, but some of it isn't.

Looking at the writers of the songs I would say that blues (or R&B ) would be appropriate.

Re: Rolling Stones - a blues band
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: May 20, 2014 23:59

.....Blues with a large dose of rhythm pumped in.....



ROCKMAN

Re: Rolling Stones - a blues band
Posted by: BluzDude ()
Date: May 21, 2014 00:01

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Rockman
.....Blues with a large dose of rhythm pumped in.....

can't argue with thatdrinking smiley

Re: Rolling Stones - a blues band
Posted by: His Majesty ()
Date: May 21, 2014 00:15

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Rockman
.....Blues with a large dose of rhythm pumped in.....

... and other things. tongue sticking out smiley

Re: Rolling Stones - a blues band
Posted by: Dreamer ()
Date: May 21, 2014 00:28

It's an R&B band inspired by the blues. And their R&B heart can be hidden perfectly in rock or blues or country or pop or disco or gospel or funk or soul or...

Re: Rolling Stones - a blues band
Posted by: BluzDude ()
Date: May 21, 2014 00:35

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Dreamer
It's an R&B band inspired by the blues. And their R&B heart can be hidden perfectly in rock or blues or country or pop or disco or gospel or funk or soul or...

The last I knew is that the B in R&B stood for Blues.confused smiley

Re: Rolling Stones - a blues band
Posted by: Dreamer ()
Date: May 21, 2014 00:38

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BluzDude
Quote
Dreamer
It's an R&B band inspired by the blues. And their R&B heart can be hidden perfectly in rock or blues or country or pop or disco or gospel or funk or soul or...

The last I knew is that the B in R&B stood for Blues.confused smiley

Yes but it's not a blues band. More than that it's a R&B band smiling smiley

Re: Rolling Stones - a blues band
Posted by: BluzDude ()
Date: May 21, 2014 00:44

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Dreamer
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BluzDude
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Dreamer
It's an R&B band inspired by the blues. And their R&B heart can be hidden perfectly in rock or blues or country or pop or disco or gospel or funk or soul or...

The last I knew is that the B in R&B stood for Blues.confused smiley

Yes but it's not a blues band. More than that it's a R&B band smiling smiley

It's a matter of how we see things. You can call it R&B I can call it Blues, The sTones themselves can call it what they want, but when I listen to R&B from that era and blues from that era, to me it's closer to the latter

Re: Rolling Stones - a blues band
Posted by: stonehearted ()
Date: May 21, 2014 00:51

"Now you can call me Ray, or you can call me J, or you can call me Johnnie,..."




Re: Rolling Stones - a blues band
Posted by: BluzDude ()
Date: May 21, 2014 00:55

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stonehearted
"Now you can call me Ray, or you can call me J, or you can call me Johnnie,..."




.....but just don't call me late for dinner!!!winking smiley

Re: Rolling Stones - a blues band
Posted by: Erik_Snow ()
Date: May 21, 2014 00:58

A reply to my previous thread, OK. Though I don't think RS is a blues band.
I was also surprised to see it closed as I was about to reply to some posts yesterday. Some good replies there from several IORR posters. And I agree that the word I used, "childish", was not the best word to use; as somebody pointed out to me; "immature" was the word I was looking for.
Just to calrify a bit since I can't do it in that other, RIP, thread; what I stated in that thread was a little true though not really true, because rock music isn't meant to be intellectual and maybe not even artsy; that's not what you're looking for when wanting to put on a Chuck Berry or Stones record, not to mention if you put on a good old boogie record. I find other musical forms more serious though and sometimes I prefer that. But I knew that it would lead to an interesting discussion which it also did, especially since some always feel very threatened when putting Rolling Stones in a bad light.....and even more so when putting rock'n roll in it's entirely in a bad light. I can't remember if that has been done before here, I kind of liked that. Paulywaul for instance, did not. Anyway, thanks for some of the replies there



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Re: Rolling Stones - a blues band
Posted by: His Majesty ()
Date: May 21, 2014 01:08

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Erik_Snow
.... rock music isn't meant to be intellectual and maybe not even artsy;

I'm glad some pushed for and encouraged rock music to grow and to grow up a bit then. grinning smiley

Re: Rolling Stones - a blues band
Posted by: Erik_Snow ()
Date: May 21, 2014 01:15

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His Majesty
Quote
Erik_Snow
.... rock music isn't meant to be intellectual and maybe not even artsy;

I'm glad some pushed for and encouraged rock music to grow and to grow up a bit then. grinning smiley

You could put an "always" between "isn't" and "meant to be", Majesty, I see that, but most rock music; especially "rock & roll music", is not an intellectual affair, I'd say



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Re: Rolling Stones - a blues band
Posted by: His Majesty ()
Date: May 21, 2014 01:17

thumbs up

Re: Rolling Stones - a blues band
Posted by: Aquamarine ()
Date: May 21, 2014 01:45

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Erik_Snow
some always feel very threatened when putting Rolling Stones in a bad light

Hmm--disagreeing about something isn't the same as feeling threatened, is it? What's to be threatened by? confused smiley

I agree that rock music wasn't initially intellectual music, but it's evolved since then to the point where it's an umbrella term that encompasses everything from the Stones to Kraftwerk to Pink Floyd to the Clash to Bjork, and some of the music under that umbrella is definitely intellectually demanding. Whereas, it's not true to say that classical music was or is (because despite what some posts have suggested, it IS still being written) intended specifically as intellectual music, because again there's a big umbrella here. Some was written on demand for royal weddings etc., some was written to please a broad audience. I know that my personal response to Beethoven's Ninth is almost exactly the same as my response to my favorite rock anthems.

As for the Stones and blues, they were definitely a blues/r'n'b band at their inception (and the meaning of those terms has changed slightly--back then rhythm and blues was the electric, band-based version of the blues, the Chicago variety, whereas the blues proper was the acoustic solo country blues), but once they started having hits, they became equally soul-inspired, especially the hits that were big in the US, like Time is On My Side.

Re: Rolling Stones - a blues band
Date: May 21, 2014 01:48

The Stones transcend all forms of music. They just can't be "boxed in."

Re: Rolling Stones - a blues band
Posted by: Aquamarine ()
Date: May 21, 2014 01:50

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ThickerThanThieves
The Stones transcend all forms of music. They just can't be "boxed in."

I agree, though the widening out to include all these different genres was a gradual process--they didn't start out that way.

Re: Rolling Stones - a blues band
Posted by: 24FPS ()
Date: May 21, 2014 01:53

They were stunning when I saw them at the Hollywood Bowl in 2005, doing Back of My Hand. It's reminiscent of other songs, but still, there was an authenticity to it. I assumed they would come back in 2012, being even older, and would hew closer to the blues. Instead we get hardly any hint of the blues in the current go round. I doubt that Darryl has much blues experience at all. He's a 1970s style light jazzer, with limited rock and roll experience.

It seems that they might rehearse a little blues, but the people never get to hear it. I think for the first time what we're really seeing on this tour is a pop band. There's no real edge to the music, and it's delivered in the easiest to take form for the absolute widest audience. It seems odd. Mick went to the White House to do blues. Ronnie does it at his own concerts, and yet the group that did more than anyone to bring blues music to a world wide audience doesn't even go near it.

Mick may have let his innermost feelings slip. This may indeed be the Rolling Stones in name only.

Re: Rolling Stones - a blues band
Date: May 21, 2014 02:00

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Aquamarine
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ThickerThanThieves
The Stones transcend all forms of music. They just can't be "boxed in."

I agree, though the widening out to include all these different genres was a gradual process--they didn't start out that way.

True.

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