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GOO
Great production great sound....wonder how ABB got so bad
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slew
WS is really good and far outshines Keith's Main Offender album. I see what you are saying about Mick stepping out and strutting his ownstuff but man with keith in fine form on the guitar in his right they could have made one hell of a Stones album at that time! MO sounds unfinished and I'm sure Mick could have helped finishing some of those tracks and it would have been interesting to hear keith on Don't Tear Me Up which is a song that begs for Keith to be playing on it.
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Powerage
Yes, fantastic album... Wired all night ^^
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tomcasagranda
Should be issued in a deluxe format with the blues sessions on Disc 2.
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buffalo7478
And the boot from Webster Hall shows how well the songs work in a live setting, with Mick actually singing and seemingly very into it. Also found it interesting that the couple of Stones track that band performed live stayed far away from 'warhorses'....Rip This Joint, Live With Me and Have You Seen Your Mother Baby.
Made me wonder if it is Mick that pushes the warhorse-dominated sets or Keith.
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Wild Slivovitz
Are you serious ?
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Wild Slivovitz
Are you serious ?
100%!
I am not saying it's a bad creative work from Jagger's side. WS has some strong songwriting. The problem is with the production: the music doesn't have personality. It was too mainstream. And the band so anonymous. Too professional. Too perfect.
Boss was very 80s, but it had strong personality.
Primitive Cool (sorry Doxa) was bad. But at least it too had personality.
Rubin's forte might be to challenge the artists he works with (or to pick interesting projects), because his albums normally are strong. But with Jagger he empathized only the testosterone side of his character. The music is too loud, compressed, overthetop, tinny.
In comparison VL and Offender were fresh air!
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Wild Slivovitz
Are you serious ?
100%!
I am not saying it's a bad creative work from Jagger's side. WS has some strong songwriting. The problem is with the production: the music doesn't have personality. It was too mainstream. And the band so anonymous. Too professional. Too perfect.
Boss was very 80s, but it had strong personality.
Primitive Cool (sorry Doxa) was bad. But at least it too had personality.
Rubin's forte might be to challenge the artists he works with (or to pick interesting projects), because his albums normally are strong. But with Jagger he empathized only the testosterone side of his character. The music is too loud, compressed, overthetop, tinny.
In comparison VL and Offender were fresh air!
C
Opinions are opinions, but, sorry, this sounds like rubbish. Judging WS by production values or terms like "mainstream", "anonymity", "professionalism" or "perfection" is utterly pointless. It's the song material that counts, and this is incredibly strong, particularily compared to some Stones output of the 80's and 90's. I've said it before and I say it again: Released by the Stones, WS would have been hailed as a true masterpiece even by Jagger critics!