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It's so strange that she apparently didn't leave any message to explain her decision, it could be even a little easier to understand then???

Keith's statement that "no-one saw this coming" seems to debunk the reports she had harmed herself about a month ago.

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MJ's quick, formal response on his website surely reflects some of his inner anguish, but I also think some of the wording is legal-ese, as in damage control, as in preventive measure to deflect potential civil suits. Before I get flamed, step outside the emotional and consider the implications: this is big business.

Guys, did you see MJ's beach pic in Oz? Dude was happy. The polar opposite was going on with Ms. Scott. Has someone ever dumped you, and while you're crying, they're smiling, moving on with life, partying with friends, happy to finally let you go? Feels great doesn't it? And have you been on the other side, and been wary of the ex who is acting unstable, obsessed?

Wouldn't be surprised if L'Wren saw that beach pic that morning.

About the money, her condo alone was valued at about the debt owed. Clean slate.

Her former housekeeper said how much L'Wren wanted to be rich and famous. Well she got all that, but lost herself, and to what? Being broken hearted about being dumped by a known philanderer who has a parade of children and abandoned relationships in his wake? Really? Take your life for that?

Like many, I bought into the image of L'Wren being this tall, strong, smart, successful woman who perhaps was a lil' more intelligent than Jerry Hall. Goes to show how much we know. Nothing.

This story is so disturbing. For me it's casting a shadow on part of the Stones...for the moment, I could give a rat's ass about seeing MJ sing in Oz or anywhere else. Give it a rest for a while.

In a way, I feel bad for Keith & Co. too. They're old now, and statistically, these could be some of the last opportunities for the world's greatest rock n' roll band.

Peace out people.

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And Cindy got banned. Interesting. So a fan starts a thread about L'wren and shares something personal, gets slammed by fans who say they are concerned about Jagger and Scott, report (?) Cindy and now she's banned, after beeing told by a concerned fan to "f--- o--"? And that iorrian is still here. Sorry if OT but it doesnt sound quite right. Edit: and please dont report me for saying this.

I'm with you all the way on this. The treatment she received from some of the folks here was despicable. Outright bullying and gleeful malevolence.

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paulm
Please give "will the tour go on?" questions a rest for a while.

This is a human being we're talking about, who had no reason to go out like that. L'Wren had absolutely everything going for her. Something beneath the surface going on here that none of us can pretend to know about at this point.

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May God alone supply an amazing amount of His comfort,grace and peace to her family, there is no other real hope in my opinion in dealing with such a tragedy.

3.1.1993 I had the unfortunate pleasure of finding my father dead from a self inflicted gunshot to the head, believe me when I say the first 72 hours are complete chaos, your mind is racing a million miles a minute with thoughts and concerns of various sorts, you can;t sleep and your definitely not hungry. The worst part is that after the chaos starts to subside, the warning signs that everyone missed in the preceding days and weeks become crystal clear and thus each person begins to feel the shame and guilt for not recognizing the signs in advance so that possibly they could have intervened.

I have no clue if they will cancel any dates, however as much as I love the Stones it wouldn't shock me if they carried on without canceling any shows because Mick is pretty full of himself as most successful front men are, heck I'm pretty arrogant and prideful myself, not that I like those traits but just being honest. Besides some people deal with stress and pain by working to take their mind off of reality, not sure its bad to keep working but personally I do believe its a bit disrespectful for Mick to not attend the funeral, huh?

Anyway, I hope and pray they do the right thing and cancel a few shows and then promise to make them up later for the fans sake.

Peace and grace to her family and closest friends.

NWSooner

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Ok. What's bothering me is that this smells like a PR spin to deflect attention away from the truth. Out of seven long term r'ships that we know of, three of the women have made serious suicide attempts, one successfully. Now perhaps all these women were unstable to begin with. Or perhaps not.

Postponing a massive tour to fly half-way around the world to attend to this unfortunate matter and mourn her loss is not a PR-spin. Regardless of what you may think of him, it is wholly inappropriate to make judgmental pronouncements on Mick's relationship with L'Wren, particularly at this time.

I totally agree StonedInTokyo
To Bliss - the relationships are not the life imprisonment.
You do not stay in them for fear that your partner will commit suicide in case of breakup. And we have no evidence to support this theory - Mick's separation from L'Wren - except for tabloid gossip.
However, I find it strange that CindyC with her respectful desire to understand what happened was ostracized and banned while this puritanical finger-pointing does not cause any ill feeling

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MJ's quick, formal response on his website surely reflects some of his inner anguish, but I also think some of the wording is legal-ese, as in damage control, as in preventive measure to deflect potential civil suits. Before I get flamed, step outside the emotional and consider the implications: this is big business.

Guys, did you see MJ's beach pic in Oz? Dude was happy. The polar opposite was going on with Ms. Scott. Has someone ever dumped you, and while you're crying, they're smiling, moving on with life, partying with friends, happy to finally let you go? Feels great doesn't it? And have you been on the other side, and been wary of the ex who is acting unstable, obsessed?

Wouldn't be surprised if L'Wren saw that beach pic that morning.

About the money, her condo alone was valued at about the debt owed. Clean slate.

Her former housekeeper said how much L'Wren wanted to be rich and famous. Well she got all that, but lost herself, and to what? Being broken hearted about being dumped by a known philanderer who has a parade of children and abandoned relationships in his wake? Really? Take your life for that?

Like many, I bought into the image of L'Wren being this tall, strong, smart, successful woman who perhaps was a lil' more intelligent than Jerry Hall. Goes to show how much we know. Nothing.

This story is so disturbing. For me it's casting a shadow on part of the Stones...for the moment, I could give a rat's ass about seeing MJ sing in Oz or anywhere else. Give it a rest for a while.

In a way, I feel bad for Keith & Co. too. They're old now, and statistically, these could be some of the last opportunities for the world's greatest rock n' roll band.

Peace out people.

I haven't posted on this site in a while. Like everyone else, I felt very sad hearing the news on tv regarding Ms. Scott's untimely and tragic death. I've read a fair number of these posts and how it affected others, and I felt compelled to write because this one by Paulm sort of offended me. If I'm not mistaken and maybe reading into this (and please correct me if I'm wrong), you seem to suggest that L'Wren Scott's actions were partially due to being dumped by Mick Jagger. Other than mere speculation and/or tabloid fodder that's being posted out there, isn't that an overreach at this point to suggest this as a probable motive?

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To proudmary: To speculate about the personal life of a newly deceased human being is apparently okey then. A person of whom you never knew or never met.
Spreading gossip and rumours in a condolence thread isn't exactly the most appropriate thing to do...

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Kill the messenger

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Kill the messenger

I agree.
I don't mind if paulm is banned for suggestions like this "but I also think some of the wording is legal-ese, as in damage control, as in preventive measure to deflect potential civil suits. Before I get flamed, step outside the emotional and consider the implications: this is big business." in a place and at a time like this it's not about our opinions but about the decency to step back.

When someone died like this it's not about free speech or something. There is lots of personal grief and shock and even more just because of publications like this. People who insist that the RS are public property, even when a close friend or relative dies in the most shocking circumstances are bullying, not the other people who react to that by saying 'get out of here!' or 'shut up.'

It's more than tasteless to speculate about why LS has taken her life, about the relationship she had with MJ, about everything actually; people who are doing that just with the argument of freedom of speech are wrongfully using it and are intruders of the worst kind.

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What's the point with consoling someone you never knew?

Someone please ban this troll.

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The response (to the speculations about whose fault this death was) was clear: Many took offense by the speculations, so shortly after her passing, and expressed that.

I'm raised to respect feedback like this, instead of clinching in with "I have the right to say it" or "You think you're morally superior, and you wanna kill this debate".

Then again, that's me...