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treaclefingers
You seem to prefer that in this situation decorum be thrown out and I'll disagree with that.
I do think you're trying to have it both ways though, by calling me out on what you call 'moral superiority'. If you prefer there to be no filters, then the rest of us who find this distasteful, this gratuitous speculation, just hours after her passing probably have just as much a right to say so.
Now that I've let out a bit of your hot air, seems so much less stuffy in here. Huh?
Oh, could we just drop this pretense in feeling that we actually have a personal relationship with people we don't even know, let alone never having met? Mick Jagger is a public figure, an entertainer, and we, the public, are the entertained. That, as far as we are concerned, is the extent of any "relationship" here, such that it is.
This is a fan forum and speculation is our business, and business is always booming, 7 days a week.
Perhaps fans who vicariously project their thoughts so intensely into the private sphere of a personal loss involving people they have no personal relationship with are probably taking the private details of these public figures too personally. It's none of our business, really.
Think of it this way, from the point of view of one who finds the music more important than a musician/performer's personal business: Perhaps Mick will channel his loss into creative efforts and Stones fans may be blessed with another late period classic like Out Of Control.
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duffydawg
Let's face it - this is a giant f#ck you to Jagger.
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hbwriter
Tell you what, I feel for Brittany Penebre tonight- L'Wren Scott's assistant - she receives a text at 8:30 asking her to come over at 10 am - she arrives to find her boss dead from a suicide. Now, if that text were a cry for help or an emergency heads up, I doubt it would have instructed what it did. It seems as if she knew what she was setting Ms. Penebre up for - we don't know how deep and dark the recesses were that L'Wren had reached, but clearly, they were bad enough that she chose to, it would seem, scar this young woman for life. There is a tortuous amount of pain in this final act; just a brutal act with a seemingly awful calculation.
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Tell you what, I feel for Brittany Penebre tonight- L'Wren Scott's assistant - she receives a text at 8:30 asking her to come over at 10 am - she arrives to find her boss dead from a suicide. Now, if that text were a cry for help or an emergency heads up, I doubt it would have instructed what it did. It seems as if she knew what she was setting Ms. Penebre up for - we don't know how deep and dark the recesses were that L'Wren had reached, but clearly, they were bad enough that she chose to, it would seem, scar this young woman for life. There is a tortuous amount of pain in this final act; just a brutal act with a seemingly awful calculation.
Or maybe Miss Scott had her own reasons for taking her life, which are none of our business, and this was not some plan to scar anyone. Maybe Miss Scott simply did not want her dead body going for days undiscovered by who knows might find it. Do you have any idea what a rotting body smells like?
Maybe it is just a sad story, not a devious plan.
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Tell you what, I feel for Brittany Penebre tonight- L'Wren Scott's assistant - she receives a text at 8:30 asking her to come over at 10 am - she arrives to find her boss dead from a suicide. Now, if that text were a cry for help or an emergency heads up, I doubt it would have instructed what it did. It seems as if she knew what she was setting Ms. Penebre up for - we don't know how deep and dark the recesses were that L'Wren had reached, but clearly, they were bad enough that she chose to, it would seem, scar this young woman for life. There is a tortuous amount of pain in this final act; just a brutal act with a seemingly awful calculation.
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hbwriter
Tell you what, I feel for Brittany Penebre tonight- L'Wren Scott's assistant - she receives a text at 8:30 asking her to come over at 10 am - she arrives to find her boss dead from a suicide. Now, if that text were a cry for help or an emergency heads up, I doubt it would have instructed what it did. It seems as if she knew what she was setting Ms. Penebre up for - we don't know how deep and dark the recesses were that L'Wren had reached, but clearly, they were bad enough that she chose to, it would seem, scar this young woman for life. There is a tortuous amount of pain in this final act; just a brutal act with a seemingly awful calculation.
Or maybe Miss Scott had her own reasons for taking her life, which are none of our business, and this was not some plan to scar anyone. Maybe Miss Scott simply did not want her dead body going for days undiscovered by who knows might find it. Do you have any idea what a rotting body smells like?
Maybe it is just a sad story, not a devious plan.
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chatoyancy
Suicide has a genetic component. Maybe her parents gave her up for adoption because they were manic depressive and could not handle a baby.
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hbwriter
Tell you what, I feel for Brittany Penebre tonight- L'Wren Scott's assistant - she receives a text at 8:30 asking her to come over at 10 am - she arrives to find her boss dead from a suicide. Now, if that text were a cry for help or an emergency heads up, I doubt it would have instructed what it did. It seems as if she knew what she was setting Ms. Penebre up for - we don't know how deep and dark the recesses were that L'Wren had reached, but clearly, they were bad enough that she chose to, it would seem, scar this young woman for life. There is a tortuous amount of pain in this final act; just a brutal act with a seemingly awful calculation.
Or maybe Miss Scott had her own reasons for taking her life, which are none of our business, and this was not some plan to scar anyone. Maybe Miss Scott simply did not want her dead body going for days undiscovered by who knows might find it. Do you have any idea what a rotting body smells like?
Maybe it is just a sad story, not a devious plan.
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stonehearted
Oh, could we just drop this pretense in feeling that we actually have a personal relationship with people we don't even know, let alone never having met? Mick Jagger is a public figure, an entertainer, and we, the public, are the entertained. That, as far as we are concerned, is the extent of any "relationship" here, such that it is.
This is a fan forum and speculation is our business, and business is always booming, 7 days a week.
Perhaps fans who vicariously project their thoughts so intensely into the private sphere of a personal loss involving people they have no personal relationship with are probably taking the private details of these public figures too personally. It's none of our business, really.
Think of it this way, from the point of view of one who finds the music more important than a musician/performer's personal business: Perhaps Mick will channel his loss into creative efforts and Stones fans may be blessed with another late period classic like Out Of Control.
No one's said anything of the sort. You have an amazing ability to take 4 paragraphs to say absolutely nothing at all.
Carry on.
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71Tele
Way too much speculation here. Sometimes it is appropriate to simply say nothing at all. We do not need to express our opinion about every situation or tragedy. Nature abhors a vacuum, and it's human nature to try to fill the void of things we don't know - or can't know - with our own speculation. But sometimes it is best to resist that natural urge and just let it be. Why can't we just agree that we can't possibly know what was in the mind of someone who chooses to take such horrific and tragic action?
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MockJigger
It may be possible, that, although very inconvenient, she was an ex-girlfriend, and there may be, for our Hero, our Romeo, a nice tidy and rather convenient upside to all this.Eventually, in the long term.
Right now, you guys are quite correct...its a big 40 million dollar inconvenience and a big universal, embarrassing, public, global '@#$%&-you' to Mick. Its presented him with a lot of problems. It was probably designed to.
He's going to have to tread carefully. He won't pull it off, the public already know him far too well. He doesn't like that too much. He doesn't like the fact they know him, what he's like.
He can only spin it, but he can't change it.
Yes, basically since Jan this year, after returning from their Stargroves Xmas break, ABSOLUTELY nothing about the glorious SHARED life with Mick.
A life that generally featured on heavy illustrated rotation on her Twitter, plus supporting 'intimate' photos on her Instagram account.
It all stopped months ago, including the usual "good luck Mick with the tour" messages, or backstage pictures, or how excited she was.
All finished months ago.
Of course,first thing this morning, all her FB/Twitter and Instagram accounts were TOTALLY deleted.
And our hero deleted his beaming picture on the beach, taken yesterday.
And now we have the denials, and the planted debt story.
Her pretty new apartment in NYC, alone, cost apx 6 mill, and most businesses have debt...if anything it showed her success was expanding as she went for growth and more lucrative big brand partnerships. Mick would have been advising her, and would have known where every cent was.
It's cloud cover. And a master of spin is likely behind it with excellent connections with the media.
And plenty of interesting stuff was around in the public realm about what was far more likely to be a motivating factor before this mornings tragic events.
If I remember off the top of my head... long term gf Marianne attempted suicide, he went off filming the next day, and gf number one, Chrissie also tried to kill her self and was immediately shuffled off, stage left....permanently.
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chatoyancy
Suicide has a genetic component. Maybe her parents gave her up for adoption because they were manic depressive and could not handle a baby.
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Life has a genetic component, too.
Stupidity as well
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