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While it is frustrating, there are obviously issues with ABKCO that hinders the 60s releases. To the Stones credit, I like their 70s released box sets and they are working their way through their filmed concerts and releasing them. BUT I won't be evr completely satisfied until an extensive Mocambo and a video of Knebworth is put out ( hopefully the tapes for both still exist)Quote
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It amazes me that the Stones have not done something equivalent to SGT PEPPERS or THE BEATLES remix plus extras releases with various outtakes, demos, new mixes, edit versions, B-sides, remixes, different mixes... for equally important LPs (BEGGARS, BLEED, FINGERS, SG and TY) and maybe some of the lesser popular but still important LPs in the catalog (GHS, BAB, ER) where they had plenty of songs recorded.
Yet alone! a kind of anthology series like The Beatles have had.
For whatever reason, other than 'they're still going', they missed the boat with doing those kinds of projects. The importance of those albums in their timeline should have zero factor with them still going or not - they're essential albums of their discography and history.
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DrPeteWhile it is frustrating, there are obviously issues with ABKCO that hinders the 60s releases. To the Stones credit, I like their 70s released box sets and they are working their way through their filmed concerts and releasing them. BUT I won't be evr completely satisfied until an extensive Mocambo and a video of Knebworth is put out ( hopefully the tapes for both still exist)Quote
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It amazes me that the Stones have not done something equivalent to SGT PEPPERS or THE BEATLES remix plus extras releases with various outtakes, demos, new mixes, edit versions, B-sides, remixes, different mixes... for equally important LPs (BEGGARS, BLEED, FINGERS, SG and TY) and maybe some of the lesser popular but still important LPs in the catalog (GHS, BAB, ER) where they had plenty of songs recorded.
Yet alone! a kind of anthology series like The Beatles have had.
For whatever reason, other than 'they're still going', they missed the boat with doing those kinds of projects. The importance of those albums in their timeline should have zero factor with them still going or not - they're essential albums of their discography and history.
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DrPeteWhile it is frustrating, there are obviously issues with ABKCO that hinders the 60s releases. To the Stones credit, I like their 70s released box sets and they are working their way through their filmed concerts and releasing them. BUT I won't be evr completely satisfied until an extensive Mocambo and a video of Knebworth is put out ( hopefully the tapes for both still exist)Quote
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It amazes me that the Stones have not done something equivalent to SGT PEPPERS or THE BEATLES remix plus extras releases with various outtakes, demos, new mixes, edit versions, B-sides, remixes, different mixes... for equally important LPs (BEGGARS, BLEED, FINGERS, SG and TY) and maybe some of the lesser popular but still important LPs in the catalog (GHS, BAB, ER) where they had plenty of songs recorded.
Yet alone! a kind of anthology series like The Beatles have had.
For whatever reason, other than 'they're still going', they missed the boat with doing those kinds of projects. The importance of those albums in their timeline should have zero factor with them still going or not - they're essential albums of their discography and history.
This has of course been debated many times and often.
Actually, there has been some co-operation between the Stones and ABKCO in the past.
For Beggars Banquet I can't help but think that if there had been the desire of both parties to do a type of 'White album' archival release it could have been possible.
However, Mick and Keith (and the public) would have been reminded again of the group at their peak of their recording powers.....and in view of the possible release of a new album soon, the timing would not be good.
Imagine the critics reviews of a new album: 'Yes its pretty good, but not a patch on Beggars Banquet'.
Not good PR.
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Paul just released a new CD in a relatively short time frame with the White Album Deluxe. He doesn't seem concerned with comparisons. If anything the Deluxe puts him more in the spotlight. Neil Young and Dylan are doing the same and getting great publicity as a result. Comprehensive collections of the historical Stones masterpieces could only be a good thing, in my opinion.
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DrPeteWhile it is frustrating, there are obviously issues with ABKCO that hinders the 60s releases. To the Stones credit, I like their 70s released box sets and they are working their way through their filmed concerts and releasing them. BUT I won't be evr completely satisfied until an extensive Mocambo and a video of Knebworth is put out ( hopefully the tapes for both still exist)Quote
GasLightStreet
It amazes me that the Stones have not done something equivalent to SGT PEPPERS or THE BEATLES remix plus extras releases with various outtakes, demos, new mixes, edit versions, B-sides, remixes, different mixes... for equally important LPs (BEGGARS, BLEED, FINGERS, SG and TY) and maybe some of the lesser popular but still important LPs in the catalog (GHS, BAB, ER) where they had plenty of songs recorded.
Yet alone! a kind of anthology series like The Beatles have had.
For whatever reason, other than 'they're still going', they missed the boat with doing those kinds of projects. The importance of those albums in their timeline should have zero factor with them still going or not - they're essential albums of their discography and history.
This has of course been debated many times and often.
Actually, there has been some co-operation between the Stones and ABKCO in the past.
For Beggars Banquet I can't help but think that if there had been the desire of both parties to do a type of 'White album' archival release it could have been possible.
However, Mick and Keith (and the public) would have been reminded again of the group at their peak of their recording powers.....and in view of the possible release of a new album soon, the timing would not be good.
Imagine the critics reviews of a new album: 'Yes its pretty good, but not a patch on Beggars Banquet'.
Not good PR.
Paul just released a new CD in a relatively short time frame with the White Album Deluxe. He doesn't seem concerned with comparisons. If anything the Deluxe puts him more in the spotlight. Neil Young and Dylan are doing the same and getting great publicity as a result. Comprehensive collections of the historical Stones masterpieces could only be a good thing, in my opinion.
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DrPeteWhile it is frustrating, there are obviously issues with ABKCO that hinders the 60s releases. To the Stones credit, I like their 70s released box sets and they are working their way through their filmed concerts and releasing them. BUT I won't be evr completely satisfied until an extensive Mocambo and a video of Knebworth is put out ( hopefully the tapes for both still exist)Quote
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It amazes me that the Stones have not done something equivalent to SGT PEPPERS or THE BEATLES remix plus extras releases with various outtakes, demos, new mixes, edit versions, B-sides, remixes, different mixes... for equally important LPs (BEGGARS, BLEED, FINGERS, SG and TY) and maybe some of the lesser popular but still important LPs in the catalog (GHS, BAB, ER) where they had plenty of songs recorded.
Yet alone! a kind of anthology series like The Beatles have had.
For whatever reason, other than 'they're still going', they missed the boat with doing those kinds of projects. The importance of those albums in their timeline should have zero factor with them still going or not - they're essential albums of their discography and history.
This has of course been debated many times and often.
Actually, there has been some co-operation between the Stones and ABKCO in the past.
For Beggars Banquet I can't help but think that if there had been the desire of both parties to do a type of 'White album' archival release it could have been possible.
However, Mick and Keith (and the public) would have been reminded again of the group at their peak of their recording powers.....and in view of the possible release of a new album soon, the timing would not be good.
Imagine the critics reviews of a new album: 'Yes its pretty good, but not a patch on Beggars Banquet'.
Not good PR.
Paul just released a new CD in a relatively short time frame with the White Album Deluxe. He doesn't seem concerned with comparisons. If anything the Deluxe puts him more in the spotlight. Neil Young and Dylan are doing the same and getting great publicity as a result. Comprehensive collections of the historical Stones masterpieces could only be a good thing, in my opinion.
Every time the Stones have released something since 1983, or perhaps earlier, they're reminded about how they're not at the peak of their recording powers.
I don't buy that at all regarding any kind of in-depth reissue ala THE BEATLES or SGT PEPPERS.
Because if there was an ounce of truth to it, they'd not only play 4-6 tracks off the new LP they're touring, which as far as I can recall, ha ha, was BTB since they essentially ignored ABB, they'd play songs from the recent LPs on the next tours, which they do not do.
So even they know, 'hey mate, we're only good through 1981'.
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Thank Your Lucky Stars, Birmingham, Sunday 14 April 1963.
With Brian Mathew, Bert Weedon, Del Shannon, Mike Berry, Kent Walton, The Dave Clark Five and The Vernons Girls
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Thank Your Lucky Stars, Birmingham, Sunday 14 April 1963.
With Brian Mathew, Bert Weedon, Del Shannon, Mike Berry, Kent Walton, The Dave Clark Five and The Vernons Girls
The deep recesses of the brain are most odd. I saw Deltic's posting identifying the damsels as being The Vernons, and thought that there's a tale there... If you check out [en.wikipedia.org] you'll see that one of them is said to have married Andy White - the drummer who replaced Ringo on "Love Me Do" (although the timing of that claim seems odd given that the photo is from April 1963), and that another married Marty Wilde and was the mother of Kim Wilde (and they lived in the same block of flats in Chiswick as me!)
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Thank Your Lucky Stars, Birmingham, Sunday 14 April 1963.
With Brian Mathew, Bert Weedon, Del Shannon, Mike Berry, Kent Walton, The Dave Clark Five and The Vernons Girls
The deep recesses of the brain are most odd. I saw Deltic's posting identifying the damsels as being The Vernons, and thought that there's a tale there... If you check out [en.wikipedia.org] you'll see that one of them is said to have married Andy White - the drummer who replaced Ringo on "Love Me Do" (although the timing of that claim seems odd given that the photo is from April 1963), and that another married Marty Wilde and was the mother of Kim Wilde (and they lived in the same block of flats in Chiswick as me!)
There were sixteen Vernons Girls between 1958 and 1964, the ones in this photo are Maureen Kennedy, Frances Lee and Jean Owen. It was Lyn Cornell that married Andy White and Joyce Smith that married Marty Wilde.
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marianna
The Forbes "Ultimate Rock Star" article is sort of ridiculous. I get it, people produce those articles around that sad anniversary. But "Imagine" is not that great of a song, to me. While I enjoy "Plastic Ono Band" as a rock album, it's sort of the same song over and over again. Some of the lyrics are preachy, self-righteous, humorless, and self-pitying. John gradually got out of that trap in later solo work. It's nice for this writer that he has a hero. He must never have read the Goldman bio, which features some negative stories by people willing to be quoted on the record. Lennon was a flawed human with some demons.
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Lennon was a flawed human with some demons.
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Lennon was a flawed human with some demons.
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noughties
If it wasn`t for that medley on side 2, Abbey Road would have been a sub par album.