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Aquamarine
Because they don't have to top it? Because as long as they still enjoy making music and people still enjoy hearing them do it, it's always going to be worth it for all involved? Because making mistakes in live performances is part of what makes those performances so unpredictable and exciting and, y'know, live, because no band ever played a perfect show? Because 70 isn't as old anymore as you think it is? Because I still want to hear No Expectations?
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Gazza
Thats some price.
Is that the Japanese version with all the material that isnt on the other releases?
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Gazza
Thats some price.
Is that the Japanese version with all the material that isnt on the other releases?
Seems it's European Deluxe...
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Aquamarine
Because they don't have to top it? Because as long as they still enjoy making music and people still enjoy hearing them do it, it's always going to be worth it for all involved? Because making mistakes in live performances is part of what makes those performances so unpredictable and exciting and, y'know, live, because no band ever played a perfect show? Because 70 isn't as old anymore as you think it is? Because I still want to hear No Expectations?
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JumpinJackOLantern
I hope they go on forever, but only if they would build future shows around new music. I have no interest in watching them repeat themselves beyond '50 and Counting.
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I won't be buying the Sweet Summer Sun DVD if it includes the overdub to SMU. I bought the I-Tunes version and was extremely disappointed. To me SMU sounded a lot like the live version from the Live At The Max DVD.
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Rolling Hansie
Very nice, thanks. Gonna buy it anyway though
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I hope they go on forever, but only if they would build future shows around new music. I have no interest in watching them repeat themselves beyond '50 and Counting.
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Per-Arne
The only difference is that Emotional Rescue is included on the Japanese DVD/Blue Ray? The CD's is is the same?
In other words - You only thing need to buy from Japan is the DVD/BlueRay without the CD's and you can buy the rest in europe?
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I hope they go on forever, but only if they would build future shows around new music. I have no interest in watching them repeat themselves beyond '50 and Counting.
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They will not go on forever, Time Waits For No One ...
So I'll enjoy all what they can do, still. And I'll be pleased with a little Sweet Summer Sun bringing some light and warmness into the upcoming gloom and doom during the wintertime.
I'm still dreaming and hoping, The Rolling Stones might surprise us with some new music, a new album and some more shows with new tracks or some "old" songs they've never played before. And I would like to see Mick Taylor playing again with them, not only on stage.
But I've no high-wrought expectations. Maybe some "real" fans will have, they created there surreal world by some own and neverending illusions, and they are frustrated by doing this, more and more.
I can't see no good reason, really, to go on with this childlike kind of heavy stones-bashing, celebrated by those frustrated fans.
So let's cool down,
please,
carpe diem!
Let's enjoy The Rolling Stones
with some real good feeling, still.
HighwireC
BTW:
Let's drink to the hard working people
Let's drink to the lowly of birth
Raise your glass to the good and the evil
Let's drink to the salt of the earth
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I hope they go on forever, but only if they would build future shows around new music. I have no interest in watching them repeat themselves beyond '50 and Counting.
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They will not go on forever, Time Waits For No One ...
So I'll enjoy all what they can do, still. And I'll be pleased with a little Sweet Summer Sun bringing some light and warmness into the upcoming gloom and doom during the wintertime.
I'm still dreaming and hoping, The Rolling Stones might surprise us with some new music, a new album and some more shows with new tracks or some "old" songs they've never played before. And I would like to see Mick Taylor playing again with them, not only on stage.
But I've no high-wrought expectations. Maybe some "real" fans will have, they created there surreal world by some own and neverending illusions, and they are frustrated by doing this, more and more.
I can't see no good reason, really, to go on with this childlike kind of heavy stones-bashing, celebrated by those frustrated fans.
So let's cool down,
please,
carpe diem!
Let's enjoy The Rolling Stones
with some real good feeling, still.
HighwireC
BTW:
Let's drink to the hard working people
Let's drink to the lowly of birth
Raise your glass to the good and the evil
Let's drink to the salt of the earth
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I wish them (and their fans) well. The overdubbing of the intro to SMU at Hyde Park is shameful. A terrible decision. If they don't reverse that decision and restore the intro that was actually played on that evening then I shall remain a non fan, even if they do decide to record new music. That overdub is unforgivable, at least in my eyes.
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I hope they go on forever, but only if they would build future shows around new music. I have no interest in watching them repeat themselves beyond '50 and Counting.
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They will not go on forever, Time Waits For No One ...
So I'll enjoy all what they can do, still. And I'll be pleased with a little Sweet Summer Sun bringing some light and warmness into the upcoming gloom and doom during the wintertime.
I'm still dreaming and hoping, The Rolling Stones might surprise us with some new music, a new album and some more shows with new tracks or some "old" songs they've never played before. And I would like to see Mick Taylor playing again with them, not only on stage.
But I've no high-wrought expectations. Maybe some "real" fans will have, they created there surreal world by some own and neverending illusions, and they are frustrated by doing this, more and more.
I can't see no good reason, really, to go on with this childlike kind of heavy stones-bashing, celebrated by those frustrated fans.
So let's cool down,
please,
carpe diem!
Let's enjoy The Rolling Stones
with some real good feeling, still.
HighwireC
BTW:
Let's drink to the hard working people
Let's drink to the lowly of birth
Raise your glass to the good and the evil
Let's drink to the salt of the earth
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I wish them (and their fans) well. The overdubbing of the intro to SMU at Hyde Park is shameful. A terrible decision. If they don't reverse that decision and restore the intro that was actually played on that evening then I shall remain a non fan, even if they do decide to record new music. That overdub is unforgivable, at least in my eyes.
What if the band sent you a dozen roses? Forgive and forget, no?
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24FPS
Let me get this straight. I'm supposed to get excited about buying a product that's redundant. Same songs, same musicians, just a little bit older? It's not like they're my close buddies I haven't seen in years and we're getting together to recreate the past. And there aren't any surprises or rarities to give it something unique. Maybe it's true, Europeans go to rock concerts for the event of it, and Americans actually listen.
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24FPS
Let me get this straight. I'm supposed to get excited about buying a product that's redundant. Same songs, same musicians, just a little bit older? It's not like they're my close buddies I haven't seen in years and we're getting together to recreate the past. And there aren't any surprises or rarities to give it something unique. Maybe it's true, Europeans go to rock concerts for the event of it, and Americans actually listen.
Overdub aside, this entire '50 and Counting Tour was truly historic for the simple fact that they were collectively roughly 70 years of age. I think it was great that they came back after being off for over five years. To do what they did was truly remarkable. But, they make a huge mistake with the overdub and show no signs of coming together to record new music. I have no problem with them documenting this tour, but I won't be buying the DVD because of that shameful overdub. Despite not being a fan at the moment (who knows the future?) I would be interested in a DVD of Glastonbury and the PPV concert from New Jersey.
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Let me get this straight. I'm supposed to get excited about buying a product that's redundant. Same songs, same musicians, just a little bit older? It's not like they're my close buddies I haven't seen in years and we're getting together to recreate the past. And there aren't any surprises or rarities to give it something unique. Maybe it's true, Europeans go to rock concerts for the event of it, and Americans actually listen.
Overdub aside, this entire '50 and Counting Tour was truly historic for the simple fact that they were collectively roughly 70 years of age. I think it was great that they came back after being off for over five years. To do what they did was truly remarkable. But, they make a huge mistake with the overdub and show no signs of coming together to record new music. I have no problem with them documenting this tour, but I won't be buying the DVD because of that shameful overdub. Despite not being a fan at the moment (who knows the future?) I would be interested in a DVD of Glastonbury and the PPV concert from New Jersey.
I wouldn't let a second or two overdub keep me from buying an entire DVD. I will let Keith's severely limited abilities and the overall lack of novelty prevent me though. I've watched the PPV from New Jersey on YouTube and it's not exciting. Look, if some fans love the Oldies Stones, have a blast. But I don't want them to pretend like the current version is a great musical experience. 70-year-old men should play some more blues. Show the depth of your life. Don't shove Sympathy For The Devil down our throats every night.
I accept the 70-year-old Stones. I wish they would too.
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It was really odd how he wonked up the intro in much the same way on both nights though.
Someone on this forum during the ABB tour, in response to criticisms of Keith's playing, actually suggested in all seriousness that what people were actually hearing were innovative, jazz-inspired progressions from someone who had ascended to a level beyond that of a virtuoso which were so advanced that mere fans and other lesser musicians couldnt comprehend them. And that those who merely thought it was a bit of clumsiness from an old man with arthritis whose head may have been a bit befuddled with alcohol and/or medication were full of shit.
The fact that he was able to play this intro exactly the same way at both Hyde Park shows is making me question whether or not the lone nutcase in question was actually wrong.
I like your writing style,Gazza. As for me I jumped and screamed out of my head up to the fourth song so I totally missed that notorious intro in real time
Well, messing up the intro for such an iconic song on the first night, what can one say? Odd, but hey, he's old.
To do the same thing the second night, AFTER everyone came to him after the show with, "WTF was that!?" smacks either of "f-you all" from Keith or a slow descent into dementia.
I'm pretty sure he did it on purpose the second night, especially since he took a long hard and dark look at the crowd (towards the T1 section) before starting to play. Keith's older but he can still hold a grudge and I don't think he was too pleased with the reaction to the missed chord on the 6th due to the scarf/wind ;-)
OK then, so you think it was an "F-you all" from Keith. I don't doubt that either and it makes sense, certainly more sense than making the same mistake twice.
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It was really odd how he wonked up the intro in much the same way on both nights though.
Someone on this forum during the ABB tour, in response to criticisms of Keith's playing, actually suggested in all seriousness that what people were actually hearing were innovative, jazz-inspired progressions from someone who had ascended to a level beyond that of a virtuoso which were so advanced that mere fans and other lesser musicians couldnt comprehend them. And that those who merely thought it was a bit of clumsiness from an old man with arthritis whose head may have been a bit befuddled with alcohol and/or medication were full of shit.
The fact that he was able to play this intro exactly the same way at both Hyde Park shows is making me question whether or not the lone nutcase in question was actually wrong.
I like your writing style,Gazza. As for me I jumped and screamed out of my head up to the fourth song so I totally missed that notorious intro in real time
Well, messing up the intro for such an iconic song on the first night, what can one say? Odd, but hey, he's old.
To do the same thing the second night, AFTER everyone came to him after the show with, "WTF was that!?" smacks either of "f-you all" from Keith or a slow descent into dementia.
I'm pretty sure he did it on purpose the second night, especially since he took a long hard and dark look at the crowd (towards the T1 section) before starting to play. Keith's older but he can still hold a grudge and I don't think he was too pleased with the reaction to the missed chord on the 6th due to the scarf/wind ;-)
OK then, so you think it was an "F-you all" from Keith. I don't doubt that either and it makes sense, certainly more sense than making the same mistake twice.
Based on what I saw right from the front with my own eyes, yes, there's no way he didn't do that on purpose at HP2!
So I still have that pre-order from the German jpc website for the Euro version, is that still the best deal?
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Despite not being a fan at the moment (who knows the future?)
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Despite not being a fan at the moment (who knows the future?)
Aha! You're starting to weaken!
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So I still have that pre-order from the German jpc website for the Euro version, is that still the best deal?