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buttons67
dirtywork is a crap album and had it with you is a crap song.
undercover is underrated and is a decent album.
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seitan
crappy album but much better than Undercover. - Undercover is the worst rock album in history of popular music, - dirty work album was just ..mediocre.
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Lilywhite's production blows
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seitan
crappy album but much better than Undercover. - Undercover is the worst rock album in history of popular music, - dirty work album was just ..mediocre.
Interesting how opinions and musical taste can differ so much -I find Undercover to be in the top 5 of Best Ever Stones albums.
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DandelionPowderman
It's just hip to diss DW. The album has several good songs.
HIWY is one of them.
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It's just hip to diss DW. The album has several good songs.
HIWY is one of them.
This is probably debated to death, but here are some of the ‘problems’ I have with Dirty Work.
It lacks enthusiasm and positivism. It has not the same feel good atmosphere as Sticky, Exile or Some Girls. The internal fighting between band members is present in the sound and production. Jagger was absent from many of the recording sessions, making Dirty Work much a Richards/Wood project. (I know you could say that Jagger were absent from the making of Exile as well, but Keith was in a much better mood and a creative force in the Nellecote basement.) Jagger seems to be completely uninterested in the making of Dirty Work. He's vocal contributions are perhaps the worst he's ever done with The Stones.
The production is just awful. The drum sound is the worst on any Stones record. Examples are the drum intros on Hold Back and Too Rude, and the drum fills at the end of Dirty Work. It sounds as if the drums were recorded in a big empty warehouse creating a noisy echo.
Some of the tracks are among the most embarrassing The Stones’ ever released.
The blend of synthesizers and lame background vocals make Winning Ugly sound a bit like Stones doing their version of Wham’s Make Me Up Before You Go-Go.
Back to Zero sounds like the theme song of some mediocre 1980s TV-series.
Some of the songs have potential. (Keith demonstrated the quality of Too Rude live with the Winos.) But with brilliant guests such as Tom Waits, Jimmy Cliff, Bobby Womack, Don Convay, Ivan Neville and Jimmy Page – we should expect something more. And the fact that they used a cover song as the hit single to promote the album (for the first time since 1964) just underlines the lack of creativity. As far as I’m concerned Sleep Tonight is the only strong, solid track on the record that will stand the test of time.
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seitan
crappy album but much better than Undercover. - Undercover is the worst rock album in history of popular music, - dirty work album was just ..mediocre.
Interesting how opinions and musical taste can differ so much -I find Undercover to be in the top 5 of Best Ever Stones albums.
Mathijs
yes, it is interesting. for many people it's barely in the top 5 best stones album of the 80s.
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LeonidP
Definitely the only Stones album that I don't like much -- and I always thought Had It With You was a pretty lame bluesy attempt. I'll take One Hit, Too Rude and Harlem Shuffle ... and trash the rest.
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nightskyman
In general, I think many Stones fans were perhaps expecting more following the equally disappointing 'Undercover' album (though I actually like that one myself though it's no masterpiece).
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His Majesty
Dirty Work might yet have it's day when full on 80's production etc comes back in a big way.
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seitan
crappy album but much better than Undercover. - Undercover is the worst rock album in history of popular music, - dirty work album was just ..mediocre.
Interesting how opinions and musical taste can differ so much -I find Undercover to be in the top 5 of Best Ever Stones albums.
Mathijs
yes, it is interesting. for many people it's barely in the top 5 best stones album of the 80s.
Count me in for top ten of their albums...Undercover that is.
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wanderingspirit66
For me, Undercover is the only complete musical realization of the post Exile era. It is somehwat incomprehensible to me as to how a dedicated Stones fan can not appreciate this album.
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His Majesty
Dirty Work might yet have it's day when full on 80's production etc comes back in a big way.
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His Majesty
Dirty Work might yet have it's day when full on 80's production etc comes back in a big way.
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His Majesty
Dirty Work might yet have it's day when full on 80's production etc comes back in a big way.
In some ways I think 80's style production is pretty big today.
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wanderingspirit66
For me, Undercover is the only complete musical realization of the post Exile era. It is somehwat incomprehensible to me as to how a dedicated Stones fan can not appreciate this album.
Well, the lack of quality song-writing makes it rather easy to not appreciate it so much. But it has other strenghts - such as the coherence you mentioned plus a great groove in many tracks, and it rocks rather hard - which helps to compansate the lack of strong material. I also like the idea that in strict contrast to B-side of TATTOO YOU, the B-side does not have any slow songs...
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wanderingspirit66
For me, Undercover is the only complete musical realization of the post Exile era. It is somehwat incomprehensible to me as to how a dedicated Stones fan can not appreciate this album.
Well, the lack of quality song-writing makes it rather easy to not appreciate it so much. But it has other strenghts - such as the coherence you mentioned plus a great groove in many tracks, and it rocks rather hard - which helps to compansate the lack of strong material. I also like the idea that in strict contrast to B-side of TATTOO YOU, the B-side does not have any slow songs...
- Doxa