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Doxa
Thank you sabata for "Sway".
Unfortunately it is getting worse - the band has no any feel for this song, and Jagger seemingly doesn't even try to try. Taylor's improvised lyricism is nice to follow, and he won't let us down, even though Jagger rushes up the things once again.
On with the show, but unfortunately this song doesn't work.
- Doxa
Mick Taylor & his Rolling Stones...
There is no lyricism. Taylor is doing his best to plagiarize a solo he doesn't quite remember, and he's doing it ok within these circumstances, imo.
For the first time, the rhythm guitars were tighter, did you notice that?
IMO, you're not gonna get the Stones doing Sway much better than this at this stage...
Did you listen to Wood's "slide solo", an insult to the song? Not to start a new Taylor - Wood debate, but these Stones are a nostalgia act, only in it for the money and some fun. They don't give a shit anymore when it comes to quality, imo.
Actually rather naive to analyze it anyway.
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Doxa
Thank you sabata for "Sway".
Unfortunately it is getting worse - the band has no any feel for this song, and Jagger seemingly doesn't even try to try. Taylor's improvised lyricism is nice to follow, and he won't let us down, even though Jagger rushes up the things once again.
On with the show, but unfortunately this song doesn't work.
- Doxa
Mick Taylor & his Rolling Stones...
There is no lyricism. Taylor is doing his best to plagiarize a solo he doesn't quite remember, and he's doing it ok within these circumstances, imo.
For the first time, the rhythm guitars were tighter, did you notice that?
IMO, you're not gonna get the Stones doing Sway much better than this at this stage...
Did you listen to Wood's "slide solo", an insult to the song? Not to start a new Taylor - Wood debate, but these Stones are a nostalgia act, only in it for the money and some fun. They don't give a shit anymore when it comes to quality, imo.
Actually rather naive to analyze it anyway.
It was ok (some trouble with the sound for the few first seconds, though). Taylor's solos was also ok, nothing more.
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Doxa
Thank you sabata for "Sway".
Unfortunately it is getting worse - the band has no any feel for this song, and Jagger seemingly doesn't even try to try. Taylor's improvised lyricism is nice to follow, and he won't let us down, even though Jagger rushes up the things once again.
On with the show, but unfortunately this song doesn't work.
- Doxa
Mick Taylor & his Rolling Stones...
There is no lyricism. Taylor is doing his best to plagiarize a solo he doesn't quite remember, and he's doing it ok within these circumstances, imo.
For the first time, the rhythm guitars were tighter, did you notice that?
IMO, you're not gonna get the Stones doing Sway much better than this at this stage...
Did you listen to Wood's "slide solo", an insult to the song? Not to start a new Taylor - Wood debate, but these Stones are a nostalgia act, only in it for the money and some fun. They don't give a shit anymore when it comes to quality, imo.
Actually rather naive to analyze it anyway.
It was ok (some trouble with the sound for the few first seconds, though). Taylor's solos was also ok, nothing more.
Yes, it was ok.
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Doxa
Thank you sabata for "Sway".
Unfortunately it is getting worse - the band has no any feel for this song, and Jagger seemingly doesn't even try to try. Taylor's improvised lyricism is nice to follow, and he won't let us down, even though Jagger rushes up the things once again.
On with the show, but unfortunately this song doesn't work.
- Doxa
Mick Taylor & his Rolling Stones...
There is no lyricism. Taylor is doing his best to plagiarize a solo he doesn't quite remember, and he's doing it ok within these circumstances, imo.
For the first time, the rhythm guitars were tighter, did you notice that?
IMO, you're not gonna get the Stones doing Sway much better than this at this stage...
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Doxa
Thank you sabata for "Sway".
Unfortunately it is getting worse - the band has no any feel for this song, and Jagger seemingly doesn't even try to try. Taylor's improvised lyricism is nice to follow, and he won't let us down, even though Jagger rushes up the things once again.
On with the show, but unfortunately this song doesn't work.
- Doxa
Mick Taylor & his Rolling Stones...
There is no lyricism. Taylor is doing his best to plagiarize a solo he doesn't quite remember, and he's doing it ok within these circumstances, imo.
For the first time, the rhythm guitars were tighter, did you notice that?
IMO, you're not gonna get the Stones doing Sway much better than this at this stage...
Did you listen to Wood's "slide solo", an insult to the song? Not to start a new Taylor - Wood debate, but these Stones are a nostalgia act, only in it for the money and some fun. They don't give a shit anymore when it comes to quality, imo.
Actually rather naive to analyze it anyway.
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Doxa
Thank you sabata for "Sway".
Unfortunately it is getting worse - the band has no any feel for this song, and Jagger seemingly doesn't even try to try. Taylor's improvised lyricism is nice to follow, and he won't let us down, even though Jagger rushes up the things once again.
On with the show, but unfortunately this song doesn't work.
- Doxa
Mick Taylor & his Rolling Stones...
There is no lyricism. Taylor is doing his best to plagiarize a solo he doesn't quite remember, and he's doing it ok within these circumstances, imo.
For the first time, the rhythm guitars were tighter, did you notice that?
IMO, you're not gonna get the Stones doing Sway much better than this at this stage...
You have make yourself damn clear that you don't like or appreciate Taylor's improvised way to play, and you come time after time with pejorative terms like "doing his best to plagiarize a solo he doesn't quite remember". He is not really your cup of tea, and I guess never been. Be frank to yourself.
Yeah, probably the rhythm guitarists are a bit tighter than last time, but the whole feel of the performance is so lifeless. To me it sounds like they have left Taylor alone there, and not really backing him up. The band, even that first soloist (what does he even do?), seems like waiting Taylor do his solo, and that's the only point in the whole performance. There is no team effort.
If this is as good as they can do with "Sway", it is to say that the song is not anyway in their reach any longer.
But what does it matter? It is all a big celebration. Funnuly, about the only musical thing people are paying attention during this tour is Taylor's contributions. If, say, Wood sucks, no one bothers even say anything, but whatever Taylor does is in under a microscope. That alone says something of Taylor's musical significance. For different players, we have different expectations and criteria.
- Doxa
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Doxa
Thank you sabata for "Sway".
Unfortunately it is getting worse - the band has no any feel for this song, and Jagger seemingly doesn't even try to try. Taylor's improvised lyricism is nice to follow, and he won't let us down, even though Jagger rushes up the things once again.
On with the show, but unfortunately this song doesn't work.
- Doxa
Mick Taylor & his Rolling Stones...
There is no lyricism. Taylor is doing his best to plagiarize a solo he doesn't quite remember, and he's doing it ok within these circumstances, imo.
For the first time, the rhythm guitars were tighter, did you notice that?
IMO, you're not gonna get the Stones doing Sway much better than this at this stage...
Did you listen to Wood's "slide solo", an insult to the song? Not to start a new Taylor - Wood debate, but these Stones are a nostalgia act, only in it for the money and some fun. They don't give a shit anymore when it comes to quality, imo.
Actually rather naive to analyze it anyway.
Unfortunately I tend to agree with you. It is better just leave the brains out and just enjoy the show.
- Doxa
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Jack-flash
guys what's up with all of you?
we always hope we see more taylor and hear more rarities and sway is for sure one, and once they play it we say, ah better play other songs
what do you want to hear if not sway?
for the 27th time shattered or live with me ?
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Taylor is NOT the only "musical" thing people are paying attention to during this tour. Have you forgotten about all the fans who travel to see their favourite band? They are having the time of their lives - the reviews and the reports are great!
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Jack-flash
guys what's up with all of you?
we always hope we see more taylor and hear more rarities and sway is for sure one, and once they play it we say, ah better play other songs
what do you want to hear if not sway?
for the 27th time shattered or live with me ?
c'mon let's be happy the stones please us with some rarer live played tunes
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c'mon let's be happy the stones please us with some rarer live played tunes
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"Unfortunately" - regarding to my opinons in general or this Sway version?
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Doxa
Thank you sabata for "Sway".
Unfortunately it is getting worse - the band has no any feel for this song, and Jagger seemingly doesn't even try to try. Taylor's improvised lyricism is nice to follow, and he won't let us down, even though Jagger rushes up the things once again.
On with the show, but unfortunately this song doesn't work.
- Doxa
Mick Taylor & his Rolling Stones...
There is no lyricism. Taylor is doing his best to plagiarize a solo he doesn't quite remember, and he's doing it ok within these circumstances, imo.
For the first time, the rhythm guitars were tighter, did you notice that?
IMO, you're not gonna get the Stones doing Sway much better than this at this stage...
You have make yourself damn clear that you don't like or appreciate Taylor's improvised way to play, and you come time after time with pejorative terms like "doing his best to plagiarize a solo he doesn't quite remember". He is not really your cup of tea, and I guess never been. Be frank to yourself.
Yeah, probably the rhythm guitarists are a bit tighter than last time, but the whole feel of the performance is so lifeless. To me it sounds like they have left Taylor alone there, and not really backing him up. The band, even that first soloist (what does he even do?), seems like waiting Taylor do his solo, and that's the only point in the whole performance. There is no team effort.
If this is as good as they can do with "Sway", it is to say that the song is not anyway in their reach any longer.
But what does it matter? It is all a big celebration. Funnuly, about the only musical thing people are paying attention during this tour is Taylor's contributions. If, say, Wood sucks, no one bothers even say anything, but whatever Taylor does is in under a microscope. That alone says something of Taylor's musical significance. For different players, we have different expectations and criteria.
- Doxa
I like his improvised way of playing, but here on Sway he's just trying to do his best to remember his solo (trust me!). I didn't say he was doing it badly, did I?
Taylor is NOT the only "musical" thing people are paying attention to during this tour. Have you forgotten about all the fans who travel to see their favourite band? They are having the time of their lives - the reviews and the reports are great!
And all you keep nagging about is how much Taylor get to play, as well as trying to distort my view on him? Life's too short to be doing this my friend - there's a tour going on
THIS is the Taylor I like, with his leads in the right places, adding magic to the song:
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Taylor is NOT the only "musical" thing people are paying attention to during this tour. Have you forgotten about all the fans who travel to see their favourite band? They are having the time of their lives - the reviews and the reports are great!
A weak argument. I'm going to travel to see my favourite band and surely I am going to have the time of my life. Anybody going to see the Stones, and willing to pay big bucks of that, will know beforehand what one will get. And they won't disappoint you.
But I was referring to the more detailed account here in regards to performances. Only Taylor'¨s contributions seem to cause some more serious reflection or interest. Probably due that being a novelty thing. We know very well what to expect from the others. Damn, we have been trained for decades for that.
- Doxa
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PLEASE stop voting for Sway, people.
It's a RAPE; that's what it is...
History is not served by these live renditions.
We would be much better off with CYHMK definitively added to the setlist.
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Thank you sabata for "Sway".
Unfortunately it is getting worse - the band has no any feel for this song, and Jagger seemingly doesn't even try to try. Taylor's improvised lyricism is nice to follow, and he won't let us down, even though Jagger rushes up the things once again.
On with the show, but unfortunately this song doesn't work.
- Doxa
Mick Taylor & his Rolling Stones...
There is no lyricism. Taylor is doing his best to plagiarize a solo he doesn't quite remember, and he's doing it ok within these circumstances, imo.
For the first time, the rhythm guitars were tighter, did you notice that?
IMO, you're not gonna get the Stones doing Sway much better than this at this stage...
You have make yourself damn clear that you don't like or appreciate Taylor's improvised way to play, and you come time after time with pejorative terms like "doing his best to plagiarize a solo he doesn't quite remember". He is not really your cup of tea, and I guess never been. Be frank to yourself.
Yeah, probably the rhythm guitarists are a bit tighter than last time, but the whole feel of the performance is so lifeless. To me it sounds like they have left Taylor alone there, and not really backing him up. The band, even that first soloist (what does he even do?), seems like waiting Taylor do his solo, and that's the only point in the whole performance. There is no team effort.
If this is as good as they can do with "Sway", it is to say that the song is not anyway in their reach any longer.
But what does it matter? It is all a big celebration. Funnuly, about the only musical thing people are paying attention during this tour is Taylor's contributions. If, say, Wood sucks, no one bothers even say anything, but whatever Taylor does is in under a microscope. That alone says something of Taylor's musical significance. For different players, we have different expectations and criteria.
- Doxa
I like his improvised way of playing, but here on Sway he's just trying to do his best to remember his solo (trust me!). I didn't say he was doing it badly, did I?
Taylor is NOT the only "musical" thing people are paying attention to during this tour. Have you forgotten about all the fans who travel to see their favourite band? They are having the time of their lives - the reviews and the reports are great!
And all you keep nagging about is how much Taylor get to play, as well as trying to distort my view on him? Life's too short to be doing this my friend - there's a tour going on
THIS is the Taylor I like, with his leads in the right places, adding magic to the song:
Ron Wood has been doing his best to remember Taylor's solos for 35 years (badly, imo) and that doesn't seem to bother the Wood lovers. Yes, I wish Taylor was playing closer to the record here, but he doesn't - or can't - just the way Richards and Wood continually butcher the studio parts, as they have for decades now.
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Thank you sabata for "Sway".
Unfortunately it is getting worse - the band has no any feel for this song, and Jagger seemingly doesn't even try to try. Taylor's improvised lyricism is nice to follow, and he won't let us down, even though Jagger rushes up the things once again.
On with the show, but unfortunately this song doesn't work.
- Doxa
Mick Taylor & his Rolling Stones...
There is no lyricism. Taylor is doing his best to plagiarize a solo he doesn't quite remember, and he's doing it ok within these circumstances, imo.
For the first time, the rhythm guitars were tighter, did you notice that?
IMO, you're not gonna get the Stones doing Sway much better than this at this stage...
You have make yourself damn clear that you don't like or appreciate Taylor's improvised way to play, and you come time after time with pejorative terms like "doing his best to plagiarize a solo he doesn't quite remember". He is not really your cup of tea, and I guess never been. Be frank to yourself.
Yeah, probably the rhythm guitarists are a bit tighter than last time, but the whole feel of the performance is so lifeless. To me it sounds like they have left Taylor alone there, and not really backing him up. The band, even that first soloist (what does he even do?), seems like waiting Taylor do his solo, and that's the only point in the whole performance. There is no team effort.
If this is as good as they can do with "Sway", it is to say that the song is not anyway in their reach any longer.
But what does it matter? It is all a big celebration. Funnuly, about the only musical thing people are paying attention during this tour is Taylor's contributions. If, say, Wood sucks, no one bothers even say anything, but whatever Taylor does is in under a microscope. That alone says something of Taylor's musical significance. For different players, we have different expectations and criteria.
- Doxa
I like his improvised way of playing, but here on Sway he's just trying to do his best to remember his solo (trust me!). I didn't say he was doing it badly, did I?
Taylor is NOT the only "musical" thing people are paying attention to during this tour. Have you forgotten about all the fans who travel to see their favourite band? They are having the time of their lives - the reviews and the reports are great!
And all you keep nagging about is how much Taylor get to play, as well as trying to distort my view on him? Life's too short to be doing this my friend - there's a tour going on
THIS is the Taylor I like, with his leads in the right places, adding magic to the song:
Ron Wood has been doing his best to remember Taylor's solos for 35 years (badly, imo) and that doesn't seem to bother the Wood lovers. Yes, I wish Taylor was playing closer to the record here, but he doesn't - or can't - just the way Richards and Wood continually butcher the studio parts, as they have for decades now.
True, to an extent, because it's more like he's doing the recognisable parts (starts and endings) of Taylor's solos - especially his first years in the band, but also on CYHMK, he borrowed Taylor's intro and outro in his solo.
Not quite sure which parts you mean they are butchering (Sway?), but for the first time I heard the chords on Sway played correctly (apart from one Keith-riff in there), and that's a start
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Empty seats in Boston!
- Judging from the new pic at IOOR`s front page.
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Thank you sabata for "Sway".
Unfortunately it is getting worse - the band has no any feel for this song, and Jagger seemingly doesn't even try to try. Taylor's improvised lyricism is nice to follow, and he won't let us down, even though Jagger rushes up the things once again.
On with the show, but unfortunately this song doesn't work.
- Doxa
Mick Taylor & his Rolling Stones...
There is no lyricism. Taylor is doing his best to plagiarize a solo he doesn't quite remember, and he's doing it ok within these circumstances, imo.
For the first time, the rhythm guitars were tighter, did you notice that?
IMO, you're not gonna get the Stones doing Sway much better than this at this stage...
You have make yourself damn clear that you don't like or appreciate Taylor's improvised way to play, and you come time after time with pejorative terms like "doing his best to plagiarize a solo he doesn't quite remember". He is not really your cup of tea, and I guess never been. Be frank to yourself.
Yeah, probably the rhythm guitarists are a bit tighter than last time, but the whole feel of the performance is so lifeless. To me it sounds like they have left Taylor alone there, and not really backing him up. The band, even that first soloist (what does he even do?), seems like waiting Taylor do his solo, and that's the only point in the whole performance. There is no team effort.
If this is as good as they can do with "Sway", it is to say that the song is not anyway in their reach any longer.
But what does it matter? It is all a big celebration. Funnuly, about the only musical thing people are paying attention during this tour is Taylor's contributions. If, say, Wood sucks, no one bothers even say anything, but whatever Taylor does is in under a microscope. That alone says something of Taylor's musical significance. For different players, we have different expectations and criteria.
- Doxa
I like his improvised way of playing, but here on Sway he's just trying to do his best to remember his solo (trust me!). I didn't say he was doing it badly, did I?
Taylor is NOT the only "musical" thing people are paying attention to during this tour. Have you forgotten about all the fans who travel to see their favourite band? They are having the time of their lives - the reviews and the reports are great!
And all you keep nagging about is how much Taylor get to play, as well as trying to distort my view on him? Life's too short to be doing this my friend - there's a tour going on
THIS is the Taylor I like, with his leads in the right places, adding magic to the song:
Ron Wood has been doing his best to remember Taylor's solos for 35 years (badly, imo) and that doesn't seem to bother the Wood lovers. Yes, I wish Taylor was playing closer to the record here, but he doesn't - or can't - just the way Richards and Wood continually butcher the studio parts, as they have for decades now.
True, to an extent, because it's more like he's doing the recognisable parts (starts and endings) of Taylor's solos - especially his first years in the band, but also on CYHMK, he borrowed Taylor's intro and outro in his solo.
Not quite sure which parts you mean they are butchering (Sway?), but for the first time I heard the chords on Sway played correctly (apart from one Keith-riff in there), and that's a start
Not referring specifically to Sway here. The point is that Wood and Richards have been messing up parts for years (sometimes intentionally, sometimes not), then Taylor is crucified by some for not playing the solos note-for-note like the records.