For information about how to use this forum please check out forum help and policies.
Quote
RollingFreak
Just my opinion, but those setlists don't look that different from what we are getting this tour. They played about the same mix of alternate songs on that tour, and we get the same this time around.
Quote
duke richardson
the Charlotte NC show on that tour had a great setlist. the show was fantastic.
I remember a long, jammy 'Some Girls'...lots of Jagger harp.. great versions of Keith songs ...Midnight Rambler the B stage...'Route 66' is one of my favorite covers, a great song for the Stones to do and they did it..
here's the setlist:
Jumping Jack Flash
Bitch
You Got Me Rocking
Respectable
Honky Tonk Women
Memory Motel
Saint of Me
Some Girls
Paint It Black
-- Introductions --
You Got The Silver (Keith)
Before They Make Me Run (Keith)
Out Of Control
Route 66 (B-stage)
Just My Imagination (B-stage)
Midnight Rambler (B-stage)
Tumbling Dice
It's Only Rock'n Roll
Start Me Up
Brown Sugar
Sympathy for the Devil (encore)
Quote
fahthreeQuote
RollingFreak
Just my opinion, but those setlists don't look that different from what we are getting this tour. They played about the same mix of alternate songs on that tour, and we get the same this time around.
The difference is 9 warhoses for NS vs. 13 for the current tour. No Security ended with 6 in a row, this tour 9. The differences are subtle but they're there.
Cloud wasn't there every night. This show was its debut. It rotated with Whip and Imagination.
Interestingly enough the fans didn't burn the building with no Miss You or Satisfaction.
Quote
Glam Descendant
>On March 16, 1999 I took three people, who Mick would describe as “average fans”, to the then-First Union Center for the No Security Tour.
Isn't this the *only* time they have ever played "Fool To Cry" in the US?
Quote
fahthree
On March 16, 1999 I took three people, who Mick would describe as “average fans”, to the then-First Union Center for the No Security Tour. As we all know there is a huge debate that there are songs that the average fan must hear to maximize their concert going experience. As a reminder, here’s the setlist from that night:
1. Jumping Jack Flash
2. Live With Me
3. You Got Me Rocking
4. Respectable
5. Honky Tonk Women
6. Fool To Cry
7. Saint of Me
8. Some Girls
9. Paint It Black
-- Introductions --
10. You Got The Silver (Keith)
11. You Don't Have To Mean It (Keith)
12. Out Of Control
13. Route 66 (B-stage)
14. Get Off Of My Cloud (B-stage)
15. Midnight Rambler (B-stage)
16. Tumbling Dice
17. It's Only Rock'n Roll
18. Start Me Up
19. Brown Sugar
20. Sympathy for the Devil (encore)
Like every other show during the No Security, there is no Miss You or Satisfaction. Yesterday I spoke to each of them to get their thoughts on the show, now 14 years later.
The one guy still describes it as one of the greatest shows he’s ever seen. How can that be? They didn’t play every hit. His response – “A show needs a good mix. If I wanted all the hits I’d just put the CD on”.
My other friend really wanted to hear Memory Motel but was ecstatic that he heard songs he’d never heard before, like Some Girls & Fool To Cry. Going in he specifically hoped they didn’t play every hit.
The third guy was a little hazier about it all since he did some nitrous balloons followed by weed.
The point of this is simple – the argument that the average fan needs “x” number of hits is bullshit. Looking at the No Security setlist offers a great example of how to place lesser known material in the midst of hits.
Quote
Rstones24Quote
fahthree
On March 16, 1999 I took three people, who Mick would describe as “average fans”, to the then-First Union Center for the No Security Tour. As we all know there is a huge debate that there are songs that the average fan must hear to maximize their concert going experience. As a reminder, here’s the setlist from that night:
1. Jumping Jack Flash
2. Live With Me
3. You Got Me Rocking
4. Respectable
5. Honky Tonk Women
6. Fool To Cry
7. Saint of Me
8. Some Girls
9. Paint It Black
-- Introductions --
10. You Got The Silver (Keith)
11. You Don't Have To Mean It (Keith)
12. Out Of Control
13. Route 66 (B-stage)
14. Get Off Of My Cloud (B-stage)
15. Midnight Rambler (B-stage)
16. Tumbling Dice
17. It's Only Rock'n Roll
18. Start Me Up
19. Brown Sugar
20. Sympathy for the Devil (encore)
Like every other show during the No Security, there is no Miss You or Satisfaction. Yesterday I spoke to each of them to get their thoughts on the show, now 14 years later.
The one guy still describes it as one of the greatest shows he’s ever seen. How can that be? They didn’t play every hit. His response – “A show needs a good mix. If I wanted all the hits I’d just put the CD on”.
My other friend really wanted to hear Memory Motel but was ecstatic that he heard songs he’d never heard before, like Some Girls & Fool To Cry. Going in he specifically hoped they didn’t play every hit.
The third guy was a little hazier about it all since he did some nitrous balloons followed by weed.
The point of this is simple – the argument that the average fan needs “x” number of hits is bullshit. Looking at the No Security setlist offers a great example of how to place lesser known material in the midst of hits.
Here's the thing.
Right now, that setlist looks fresh and good to you because they aren't playing those songs right now. Out of Control was off BTB, so that's like if they were playing Rough Justice on this tour. Other rarities include Fool to Cry, Some Girls, and Route 66.
Every other song on that list has been played at concerts this year. Plus, that was 20 songs vs 22 or 23 songs on this tour.
Plus, when they play 17 of those 20 songs 5 nights away on the No Security Tour, it would look a lot less fresh to you. But now because it includes "different" songs that aren't in the current rotation, you're acting as though it was way more different than it really was.
Quote
fahthreeQuote
Rstones24Quote
fahthree
On March 16, 1999 I took three people, who Mick would describe as “average fans”, to the then-First Union Center for the No Security Tour. As we all know there is a huge debate that there are songs that the average fan must hear to maximize their concert going experience. As a reminder, here’s the setlist from that night:
1. Jumping Jack Flash
2. Live With Me
3. You Got Me Rocking
4. Respectable
5. Honky Tonk Women
6. Fool To Cry
7. Saint of Me
8. Some Girls
9. Paint It Black
-- Introductions --
10. You Got The Silver (Keith)
11. You Don't Have To Mean It (Keith)
12. Out Of Control
13. Route 66 (B-stage)
14. Get Off Of My Cloud (B-stage)
15. Midnight Rambler (B-stage)
16. Tumbling Dice
17. It's Only Rock'n Roll
18. Start Me Up
19. Brown Sugar
20. Sympathy for the Devil (encore)
Like every other show during the No Security, there is no Miss You or Satisfaction. Yesterday I spoke to each of them to get their thoughts on the show, now 14 years later.
The one guy still describes it as one of the greatest shows he’s ever seen. How can that be? They didn’t play every hit. His response – “A show needs a good mix. If I wanted all the hits I’d just put the CD on”.
My other friend really wanted to hear Memory Motel but was ecstatic that he heard songs he’d never heard before, like Some Girls & Fool To Cry. Going in he specifically hoped they didn’t play every hit.
The third guy was a little hazier about it all since he did some nitrous balloons followed by weed.
The point of this is simple – the argument that the average fan needs “x” number of hits is bullshit. Looking at the No Security setlist offers a great example of how to place lesser known material in the midst of hits.
Here's the thing.
Right now, that setlist looks fresh and good to you because they aren't playing those songs right now. Out of Control was off BTB, so that's like if they were playing Rough Justice on this tour. Other rarities include Fool to Cry, Some Girls, and Route 66.
Every other song on that list has been played at concerts this year. Plus, that was 20 songs vs 22 or 23 songs on this tour.
Plus, when they play 17 of those 20 songs 5 nights away on the No Security Tour, it would look a lot less fresh to you. But now because it includes "different" songs that aren't in the current rotation, you're acting as though it was way more different than it really was.
I hear you but, for what it's worth, I said the differences were subtle and the thrust of my post was that 2 of their biggest hits weren't played and the average fans I took didn't care.
I also think the pacing of the shows was better. Hits were broken up. I think throwing All Down The Line into Tumbling Dice's spot on this tour would be good. Not going to happen since Mick paid all that money for the video.
This tour will always be special because it marked the return to the arena
Quote
Rstones24Quote
fahthreeQuote
Rstones24Quote
fahthree
On March 16, 1999 I took three people, who Mick would describe as “average fans”, to the then-First Union Center for the No Security Tour. As we all know there is a huge debate that there are songs that the average fan must hear to maximize their concert going experience. As a reminder, here’s the setlist from that night:
1. Jumping Jack Flash
2. Live With Me
3. You Got Me Rocking
4. Respectable
5. Honky Tonk Women
6. Fool To Cry
7. Saint of Me
8. Some Girls
9. Paint It Black
-- Introductions --
10. You Got The Silver (Keith)
11. You Don't Have To Mean It (Keith)
12. Out Of Control
13. Route 66 (B-stage)
14. Get Off Of My Cloud (B-stage)
15. Midnight Rambler (B-stage)
16. Tumbling Dice
17. It's Only Rock'n Roll
18. Start Me Up
19. Brown Sugar
20. Sympathy for the Devil (encore)
Like every other show during the No Security, there is no Miss You or Satisfaction. Yesterday I spoke to each of them to get their thoughts on the show, now 14 years later.
The one guy still describes it as one of the greatest shows he’s ever seen. How can that be? They didn’t play every hit. His response – “A show needs a good mix. If I wanted all the hits I’d just put the CD on”.
My other friend really wanted to hear Memory Motel but was ecstatic that he heard songs he’d never heard before, like Some Girls & Fool To Cry. Going in he specifically hoped they didn’t play every hit.
The third guy was a little hazier about it all since he did some nitrous balloons followed by weed.
The point of this is simple – the argument that the average fan needs “x” number of hits is bullshit. Looking at the No Security setlist offers a great example of how to place lesser known material in the midst of hits.
Here's the thing.
Right now, that setlist looks fresh and good to you because they aren't playing those songs right now. Out of Control was off BTB, so that's like if they were playing Rough Justice on this tour. Other rarities include Fool to Cry, Some Girls, and Route 66.
Every other song on that list has been played at concerts this year. Plus, that was 20 songs vs 22 or 23 songs on this tour.
Plus, when they play 17 of those 20 songs 5 nights away on the No Security Tour, it would look a lot less fresh to you. But now because it includes "different" songs that aren't in the current rotation, you're acting as though it was way more different than it really was.
I hear you but, for what it's worth, I said the differences were subtle and the thrust of my post was that 2 of their biggest hits weren't played and the average fans I took didn't care.
I also think the pacing of the shows was better. Hits were broken up. I think throwing All Down The Line into Tumbling Dice's spot on this tour would be good. Not going to happen since Mick paid all that money for the video.
This tour will always be special because it marked the return to the arena
I got you. Yeah, I think it would be nice if the 2nd half of the show was split up. Even if they did like a 2 song ballad or acoustic set after Miss You maybe and switched those up every night. But, that would take away some of the warhouse momentum that most fans feed off of.
The lack of the B Stage really takes away some of the second half intrigue.
Quote
Glam Descendant
OK, FUC is Philly. So they've only played it in Pennsylvania in the US, interesting.
I think "Hot Stuff" has only been played once in the US? Opening show of VL.
Quote
fahthreeQuote
Glam Descendant
OK, FUC is Philly. So they've only played it in Pennsylvania in the US, interesting.
I think "Hot Stuff" has only been played once in the US? Opening show of VL.
Hot Stuff was played at the Tower Theater on Licks as well.
Quote
Glam DescendantQuote
fahthreeQuote
Glam Descendant
OK, FUC is Philly. So they've only played it in Pennsylvania in the US, interesting.
I think "Hot Stuff" has only been played once in the US? Opening show of VL.
Hot Stuff was played at the Tower Theater on Licks as well.
Again with the Pennsylvania!
Y'all must be doing something right.
Quote
fahthree
On March 16, 1999 I took three people, who Mick would describe as “average fans”, to the then-First Union Center for the No Security Tour. As we all know there is a huge debate that there are songs that the average fan must hear to maximize their concert going experience. As a reminder, here’s the setlist from that night:
1. Jumping Jack Flash
2. Live With Me
3. You Got Me Rocking
4. Respectable
5. Honky Tonk Women
6. Fool To Cry
7. Saint of Me
8. Some Girls
9. Paint It Black
-- Introductions --
10. You Got The Silver (Keith)
11. You Don't Have To Mean It (Keith)
12. Out Of Control
13. Route 66 (B-stage)
14. Get Off Of My Cloud (B-stage)
15. Midnight Rambler (B-stage)
16. Tumbling Dice
17. It's Only Rock'n Roll
18. Start Me Up
19. Brown Sugar
20. Sympathy for the Devil (encore)
Like every other show during the No Security, there is no Miss You or Satisfaction. Yesterday I spoke to each of them to get their thoughts on the show, now 14 years later.
The one guy still describes it as one of the greatest shows he’s ever seen. How can that be? They didn’t play every hit. His response – “A show needs a good mix. If I wanted all the hits I’d just put the CD on”.
My other friend really wanted to hear Memory Motel but was ecstatic that he heard songs he’d never heard before, like Some Girls & Fool To Cry. Going in he specifically hoped they didn’t play every hit.
The third guy was a little hazier about it all since he did some nitrous balloons followed by weed.
The point of this is simple – the argument that the average fan needs “x” number of hits is bullshit. Looking at the No Security setlist offers a great example of how to place lesser known material in the midst of hits.
Quote
fahthreeQuote
Glam Descendant
OK, FUC is Philly. So they've only played it in Pennsylvania in the US, interesting.
I think "Hot Stuff" has only been played once in the US? Opening show of VL.
Hot Stuff was played at the Tower Theater on Licks as well.
Quote
RollingFreak
Just my opinion, but those setlists don't look that different from what we are getting this tour. They played about the same mix of alternate songs on that tour, and we get the same this time around.