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Wow. My first post on IORR and I'm called a punk. I guess you were never 25. Sorry for bothering you.
A sense of irony and sense of humor will go far here, 24.
and why the 24 when he CLAIMS to be 25? hmmm????
I agree. Very suspicious. This warrants further investigation.
we've seen his kind come and go a thousand times. i say he's outta here by sundown.
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Wow. My first post on IORR and I'm called a punk. I guess you were never 25. Sorry for bothering you.
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Wow. My first post on IORR and I'm called a punk. I guess you were never 25. Sorry for bothering you.
A sense of irony and sense of humor will go far here, 24.
and why the 24 when he CLAIMS to be 25? hmmm????
I agree. Very suspicious. This warrants further investigation.
we've seen his kind come and go a thousand times. i say he's outta here by sundown.
The way he is being treated I wouldn't blame him if he left before sundown.
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Wow. My first post on IORR and I'm called a punk. I guess you were never 25. Sorry for bothering you.
If you go into a good hamburger joint for their $5 hamburger+ fries you have no right to be fussy and demanding. But when you go out with your wife (or girlfriend) to a very fine restaurant where you spend $250 you have a right to be particulular and demanding. For what The Stones are charging we deserve better than worn out warhorses like Miss you (universally reviled) and a stupifying warhorse heavy setlist.
Stones negotiated for maximum tour revenue by going with AEG at the last moment. Their fans want maximum return on their $250-$350-$450 seats that they bought 2-3-4-5 of
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Wow. My first post on IORR and I'm called a punk. I guess you were never 25. Sorry for bothering you.
If you go into a good hamburger joint for their $5 hamburger+ fries you have no right to be fussy and demanding. But when you go out with your wife (or girlfriend) to a very fine restaurant where you spend $250 you have a right to be particulular and demanding. For what The Stones are charging we deserve better than worn out warhorses like Miss you (universally reviled) and a stupifying warhorse heavy setlist.
Stones negotiated for maximum tour revenue by going with AEG at the last moment. Their fans want maximum return on their $250-$350-$450 seats that they bought 2-3-4-5 of
Understood. But "deserve better" as far as what songs you want to hear is pretty freakin relative.
Again, there are at the absolute very least, 10 "casual," "normal," or "whatever you want to call them" fans to your 1. And it's more realistically 20-1 or more.
They are paying for the hits. You're paying for the rarities. There's more of them than us. If they decided to stop going to concerts, the Stones would be screwed. If everyone on IORR stopped going, they'd miss us, but they'd be okay.
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Wow. My first post on IORR and I'm called a punk. I guess you were never 25. Sorry for bothering you.
A sense of irony and sense of humor will go far here, 24.
and why the 24 when he CLAIMS to be 25? hmmm????
I agree. Very suspicious. This warrants further investigation.
we've seen his kind come and go a thousand times. i say he's outta here by sundown.
The way he is being treated I wouldn't blame him if he left before sundown.
Thanks JJ...I appreciate both your kind of welcome, and the other ones I know you're all good people.
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Wow. My first post on IORR and I'm called a punk. I guess you were never 25. Sorry for bothering you.
A sense of irony and sense of humor will go far here, 24.
and why the 24 when he CLAIMS to be 25? hmmm????
I agree. Very suspicious. This warrants further investigation.
we've seen his kind come and go a thousand times. i say he's outta here by sundown.
The way he is being treated I wouldn't blame him if he left before sundown.
Thanks JJ...I appreciate both your kind of welcome, and the other ones I know you're all good people.
One thing I have learned in my 69 years is that not everyone is good. Some people are just hell bent on seeing the world burn.
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Wow. My first post on IORR and I'm called a punk.
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Wow. My first post on IORR and I'm called a punk.
And be proud of it. All these old farts here have forgotten what it was to be young. Not me though ... I am an old fart who still knows what it was to be young LOL.
Welcome to the board kiddo. I like your attitude.
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Wow. My first post on IORR and I'm called a punk. I guess you were never 25. Sorry for bothering you.
A sense of irony and sense of humor will go far here, 24.
and why the 24 when he CLAIMS to be 25? hmmm????
I agree. Very suspicious. This warrants further investigation.
we've seen his kind come and go a thousand times. i say he's outta here by sundown.
The way he is being treated I wouldn't blame him if he left before sundown.
Thanks JJ...I appreciate both your kind of welcome, and the other ones I know you're all good people.
One thing I have learned in my 69 years is that not everyone is good. Some people are just hell bent on seeing the world burn.
hell-bent? that's a little strong. determined? yes....
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RStones24, THANK YOU for a spot-on post.
I applaud you. Hope you stick around and keep it REAL.
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Rstones24
Hey everyone. I'm 25, been checking out these boards forever since I went to my first Stones show in 2002 on the Licks tour. I've just never registered until now.
I've been to 6 Stones shows, and will be going to 3 more when they come back east.
Why now? I can't believe how many of you are bashing the Stones! We are all guilty of losing perspective in our lives with various things, and from my vantage point, the diehard Stones fans are REALLY guilty of this with their setlist complaining.
Please, take a step back and think. Okay, there are say 20K fans at a Stones show. How many of those fans are going to multiple shows? Consider the ticket prices. Maybe 5%? So 1K out of 20K? And how many of those fans that are going to multiple shows are "diehard" fans, who only want to hear the obscure songs? Even less than that! Everyones judgment on here is clouded because you are such huge Stones fans. You follow the setlist every night. You watch every single Youtube video. No wonder you get tired of hearing the same songs over and over?
Consider this: On May 3rd, everyone was so happy they played Emotional Rescue. Now, literally 23 days later, people bitch and moan when they play that, because they're not switching it up. Wait a minute...how many people that heard Emotional Rescue on the west coast also heard it last night in Toronto? I'd venture less than 50-100 fans. Yet what's changed? All of you watching it on Youtube after every show? How is that the Stones' fault? How is it their fault that everyone going to the Philly shows in June are stalking the setlist every night in May? If you want to be surprised, don't look at the setlist.
The Stones are my favorite band in the world. Yes, I want to hear the obscure songs. But when I go see Bruce Springsteen, I'm pissed off when he doesn't play Glory Days, Born to Run, Rosalita, etc. Just as a normal person who is seeing the Stones for the 3rd time ever and don't watch every Youtube video from every show would be pissed off if they don't hear Honky Tonk Woman, Tumbling Dice, or Miss You.
I just can't believe the lack of perspective by many intelligent folks on here. It's mind-boggling. Mailing it in? I have a great friend that went to the Toronto show. He hasn't missed a tour since 1981, but he's still just a "casual" fan. He's a bigger music fan in general than Stones fan. After the show last night, he texted me saying it's the best he's ever seen them. He just went and enjoyed the music, rather than picking apart every bum note or noticing how close Keith went to Mick or complaining about the last minute of SFM.
Please, please...get some perspective! 90% of the fans DO NOT want to go to a concert, spend $300 a ticket, and not know the words to songs 4-12 like you guys want to happen. It's just a fact. The Rolling Stones are 100% correct in believing this. Ask anyone who isn't a diehard Shidobee or IORR or Rocksoff person and they'll tell you the same thing.
If Michael Jackson came back to live and you went to see him for the novelty of it (assuming you aren't a diehard MJ fan), would you be upset or be totally fine if he didn't play Billy Jean, Beat It, Smooth Criminal, PYT, Don't Stop, etc? Or would you say he's mailing it in?
Thanks for listening. Rant over.
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Wow. My first post on IORR and I'm called a punk. I guess you were never 25. Sorry for bothering you.
If you go into a good hamburger joint for their $5 hamburger+ fries you have no right to be fussy and demanding. But when you go out with your wife (or girlfriend) to a very fine restaurant where you spend $250 you have a right to be particulular and demanding. For what The Stones are charging we deserve better than worn out warhorses like Miss you (universally reviled) and a stupifying warhorse heavy setlist.
Stones negotiated for maximum tour revenue by going with AEG at the last moment. Their fans want maximum return on their $250-$350-$450 seats that they bought 2-3-4-5 of
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Rstones24
Hey everyone. I'm 25, been checking out these boards forever since I went to my first Stones show in 2002 on the Licks tour. I've just never registered until now.
I've been to 6 Stones shows, and will be going to 3 more when they come back east.
Why now? I can't believe how many of you are bashing the Stones! We are all guilty of losing perspective in our lives with various things, and from my vantage point, the diehard Stones fans are REALLY guilty of this with their setlist complaining.
Please, take a step back and think. Okay, there are say 20K fans at a Stones show. How many of those fans are going to multiple shows? Consider the ticket prices. Maybe 5%? So 1K out of 20K? And how many of those fans that are going to multiple shows are "diehard" fans, who only want to hear the obscure songs? Even less than that! Everyones judgment on here is clouded because you are such huge Stones fans. You follow the setlist every night. You watch every single Youtube video. No wonder you get tired of hearing the same songs over and over?
Consider this: On May 3rd, everyone was so happy they played Emotional Rescue. Now, literally 23 days later, people bitch and moan when they play that, because they're not switching it up. Wait a minute...how many people that heard Emotional Rescue on the west coast also heard it last night in Toronto? I'd venture less than 50-100 fans. Yet what's changed? All of you watching it on Youtube after every show? How is that the Stones' fault? How is it their fault that everyone going to the Philly shows in June are stalking the setlist every night in May? If you want to be surprised, don't look at the setlist.
The Stones are my favorite band in the world. Yes, I want to hear the obscure songs. But when I go see Bruce Springsteen, I'm pissed off when he doesn't play Glory Days, Born to Run, Rosalita, etc. Just as a normal person who is seeing the Stones for the 3rd time ever and don't watch every Youtube video from every show would be pissed off if they don't hear Honky Tonk Woman, Tumbling Dice, or Miss You.
I just can't believe the lack of perspective by many intelligent folks on here. It's mind-boggling. Mailing it in? I have a great friend that went to the Toronto show. He hasn't missed a tour since 1981, but he's still just a "casual" fan. He's a bigger music fan in general than Stones fan. After the show last night, he texted me saying it's the best he's ever seen them. He just went and enjoyed the music, rather than picking apart every bum note or noticing how close Keith went to Mick or complaining about the last minute of SFM.
Please, please...get some perspective! 90% of the fans DO NOT want to go to a concert, spend $300 a ticket, and not know the words to songs 4-12 like you guys want to happen. It's just a fact. The Rolling Stones are 100% correct in believing this. Ask anyone who isn't a diehard Shidobee or IORR or Rocksoff person and they'll tell you the same thing.
If Michael Jackson came back to live and you went to see him for the novelty of it (assuming you aren't a diehard MJ fan), would you be upset or be totally fine if he didn't play Billy Jean, Beat It, Smooth Criminal, PYT, Don't Stop, etc? Or would you say he's mailing it in?
Thanks for listening. Rant over.
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Rstones24, you going to the June 12 show? I like you're perspective. Yesterday I played golf in a tourney and in my group was a 19 year old Stones fan. I'm 53 and our age difference didn't matter. We both enjoyed talking the Stones and I respected his viewpoint. Funny, I told him the show I was really looking forward to this summer is Beck and he was clueless. Can't wait to see Beck!!
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You are really missing the point of this board. This is a forum where people air their feelings about the Stones -- good & bad.
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You are really missing the point of this board. This is a forum where people air their feelings about the Stones -- good & bad.
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Here comes a simple answer from a hard core fan since 1964.
I've been learning the lyrics of the songs from the start of my fanhood and I urge you to do the same.
The Rolling Stones is without a doubt the greatest rock and roll band still but they make mistakes nowadays that shouldn't be made by professionals like them.
One of them is the cruise control setlist! Another one the on occasion boring guest artists invited to the stage. On that part we have LG dressed like she was going to a party with the Big Bang Theory actors pretending to be the doppler effect.
Then we have Gwen Stefani, who didn't care enough but to destroy the worlds greatest ballad Wild horses. Last concert Carrie Underwood destroyed IORR.
She even got Mick to try to sing like her.
Now there's this great guy who came along on this journey, his name is Mick Taylor. Why not bring him on stage for a greater part of the show and play songs with greater quality than Emotional Rescue. ER is one of the weakest songs ever written by Jagger/Richards.
The Stones are digging a big hole for themselves really, it will be hard to climb out of that one!
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You are really missing the point of this board. This is a forum where people air their feelings about the Stones -- good & bad.
I want to air my so so feelings. Where do I do that?