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Frig me. Spine tingling?
Really, who would have thought three years ago that the Stones would be this great?
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24FPS
Being overlooked, unless I'm wrong, is that we NEVER got Sway and Can't You Hear Me Knocking live in the Taylor era. I'm quite happy and satisfied to have these added to the setlist for a while. It sounds like they could use a little more work to get them red hot. But there's some other Taylor-centric songs like Time Waits For No One if they want to mix it up even more down the road.
As long as we're shooting for the moon, I hope Bill is over his hurt, and might be open to an extended slot on stage with the boys in Europe. I just can't get into Darryl. I keep waiting for the Rolling Stones 'there' to be there and it just never is.
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Being overlooked, unless I'm wrong, is that we NEVER got Sway and Can't You Hear Me Knocking live in the Taylor era.
Due to paper reports, describing CYHMK even before Sticky Fingers even was released, we know for sure that it was performed at the first Newcastle show of 1971. I started a thread about it, 2 years ago.
Still I have my doubts about that.
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Erik_Snow
Everytime somebody mentions these 2 songs being performed live at the early 1971 UK Tour dates, some wise guy will say - "oh but there's plenty of mistakes in Bill Wymans book".....like if that was the only source for the claim
Thanks to Jean Marie's 1971/1973 books, I've finally found it black on white (once again) that both Wild Horses and Can't You Hear Me Knockin was performed.....at least in Newcastle 1971
(it's also mentioned in David Dalton's book which was published in 1971.....allthough not with the same words as these press reports compiled by Jean Marie)
The 2 great books by Jean Marie is available here, btw: [www.iorr.org]
Here a news-article from the performance in Newcastle:
" [....] The rest of the set is built on the emotional platform created by that number ["Midnight Rambler"] A new song follows, "Can't You Hear Me Knocking", fast and jumpy in the same vein as "Jumpin Jack Flash" marred only by some flat picking by Keith on his plexiglass model. His gutty tone makes way for Taylor's more refined approach. Jagger retires for a moment to the sidelines, puts on his cap, and then turns to Jim Price, as if to say "going all right ennit". Another very melodic, new cut called "Wild Horses"- "they couldn't drag me away" sweeps melodically in. [....]"
(from Melody Maker 03/71)
" [....] Somthing old something new. Something borrowed something blue. That was the music menu the Stones served up at the City Hall, Newcastle, last week. [....] Something "new" were things like "White Horses" and "Prodigal Son" [...] "
(from Disc and Music Echo 1971)
Also funny to read the Leeds 1971 article/review, which says this about the Leeds show, concerning the song following "Live With Me" :
" [....] An obscure track from the "Flowers" collection was next, prior to a change of pace and their ode to young groupies "Stray Cat Blues" [....]"
So Dead Flowers is an obscure track from the Flowers collection? Funny!
So, there's no doubt that Wild Horses as well as CYHMK was indeed performed in March 1971.
Just wanted to say that. No need to discuss this at IORR anymore, IOW ! He he
So.....please get them tapes out, you Newcastle folks !
Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 2013-05-21 21:22 by Erik_Snow.
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Awesome to hear MT in CYHMN & Sway, awesome to hear him again as a stone in more songs. If they continue adding him I will try to get money from any place in order to see them. Thanks Jagger for making this possible
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kleermaker
Who had ever thought to see Taylor play Sway and Knocking with the Stones, two great songs he even didn't play with them on stage during his tenure in the band! Who would have thought he would ever play with them again anyway (and be audible too!). He did, on Plundered, then on Rambler and now also on Sway and Knocking. Now it's emotion time for me. I even love it to hear the crowd respond. Fantastic. The Stones have always been about emotion to me. And the emotion is there again. And how.
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kleermaker
Who had ever thought to see Taylor play Sway and Knocking with the Stones, two great songs he even didn't play with them on stage during his tenure in the band! Who would have thought he would ever play with them again anyway (and be audible too!). He did, on Plundered, then on Rambler and now also on Sway and Knocking. Now it's emotion time for me. I even love it to hear the crowd respond. Fantastic. The Stones have always been about emotion to me. And the emotion is there again. And how.
There's something strange going on in my brain, Kleermaker.
When I was 15, I liked any Taylor solo in an instance.
Nowadays I have to listen 5 times.
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kleermaker
Who had ever thought to see Taylor play Sway and Knocking with the Stones, two great songs he even didn't play with them on stage during his tenure in the band! Who would have thought he would ever play with them again anyway (and be audible too!). He did, on Plundered, then on Rambler and now also on Sway and Knocking. Now it's emotion time for me. I even love it to hear the crowd respond. Fantastic. The Stones have always been about emotion to me. And the emotion is there again. And how.
There's something strange going on in my brain, Kleermaker.
When I was 15, I liked any Taylor solo in an instance.
Nowadays I have to listen 5 times.
You're getting old, dear boy
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Being overlooked, unless I'm wrong, is that we NEVER got Sway and Can't You Hear Me Knocking live in the Taylor era.
Due to paper reports, describing CYHMK even before Sticky Fingers even was released, we know for sure that it was performed at the first Newcastle show of 1971. I started a thread about it, 2 years ago.
Still I have my doubts about that.
But didn't B. Keys talk about it in his book too?
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Heart warming. Now if we can just get Mick and Keith to snuggle up to one another like this. All would be right in the world, wouldn't it? At least all would be right in Stones world.
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DoomandGloom
Chuck was terrific on both as was Darrell.
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RobertJohnson
Let Mick Taylor play the entire set. His contributions are not confined to the brilliant solo sections but he enriches the band with a more full guitar sound, to say a three guitar weaving on a higher level than before.
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kleermaker
Who had ever thought to see Taylor play Sway and Knocking with the Stones, two great songs he even didn't play with them on stage during his tenure in the band! Who would have thought he would ever play with them again anyway (and be audible too!). He did, on Plundered, then on Rambler and now also on Sway and Knocking. Now it's emotion time for me. I even love it to hear the crowd respond. Fantastic. The Stones have always been about emotion to me. And the emotion is there again. And how.
There's something strange going on in my brain, Kleermaker.
When I was 15, I liked any Taylor solo in an instance.
Nowadays I have to listen 5 times.
You're getting old, dear boy
Getting?
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Fuman2
Taylor needed another minute and a half to get the Sway going. It was nice but he surely would have brought more golden notes in a three minute solo.
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DoomandGloom
Chuck was terrific on both as was Darrell.
Can someone explain to me what 'terrific' thing Darryl does? He never seems to get his shoulder into the music. I would say he spends his time trying to not intrude or impose. For the life of me I can't figure out what he's doing up there with this great cast of musicians. He kind of lays down some bass, but it's not particularly memorable. There's a space among the guitars where Bill would fill it with just the right note, or he would envelop the shambles, or propel the music.
I can't honestly say that Darryl's playing adds anything. Maybe other musicians dig what he's playing, but it doesn't translate to what matters, the fan's ears. And yeah, I know all about how he played with Miles Davis. If he's so well regarded, how come nobody clamors for him to play on their records, or on stage? Where's his great jazz solo album? If he was replaced overnight, would it make any difference at all?
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Can't You Hear Me Knocking:
Midnight Rambler:
(I Can't Get No) Satisfaction:
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Get Off My Cloud:
Gimme Shelter
Faraway Eyes:
You Got The Silver
Before They Make Me Run
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Bobby Keys is better then sliced bread
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Chuck was terrific on both as was Darrell.
Can someone explain to me what 'terrific' thing Darryl does? He never seems to get his shoulder into the music. I would say he spends his time trying to not intrude or impose. For the life of me I can't figure out what he's doing up there with this great cast of musicians. He kind of lays down some bass, but it's not particularly memorable. There's a space among the guitars where Bill would fill it with just the right note, or he would envelop the shambles, or propel the music.
I can't honestly say that Darryl's playing adds anything. Maybe other musicians dig what he's playing, but it doesn't translate to what matters, the fan's ears. And yeah, I know all about how he played with Miles Davis. If he's so well regarded, how come nobody clamors for him to play on their records, or on stage? Where's his great jazz solo album? If he was replaced overnight, would it make any difference at all?
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DoomandGloom
Chuck was terrific on both as was Darrell.
Can someone explain to me what 'terrific' thing Darryl does? He never seems to get his shoulder into the music. I would say he spends his time trying to not intrude or impose. For the life of me I can't figure out what he's doing up there with this great cast of musicians. He kind of lays down some bass, but it's not particularly memorable. There's a space among the guitars where Bill would fill it with just the right note, or he would envelop the shambles, or propel the music.
I can't honestly say that Darryl's playing adds anything. Maybe other musicians dig what he's playing, but it doesn't translate to what matters, the fan's ears. And yeah, I know all about how he played with Miles Davis. If he's so well regarded, how come nobody clamors for him to play on their records, or on stage?
Where's his great jazz solo album? If he was replaced overnight, would it make any difference at all?
When I joined on to IORR people were discussing Darrell's playing and I began to play attention to the guy. I think he doe some terrific stuff, his head is always up, he counts and communicates changes for the band along with Chuck. DJ is a heads up generous player, he makes Charlie sound great but that's the easy part.Quote
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Chuck was terrific on both as was Darrell.
Can someone explain to me what 'terrific' thing Darryl does? He never seems to get his shoulder into the music. I would say he spends his time trying to not intrude or impose. For the life of me I can't figure out what he's doing up there with this great cast of musicians. He kind of lays down some bass, but it's not particularly memorable. There's a space among the guitars where Bill would fill it with just the right note, or he would envelop the shambles, or propel the music.
I can't honestly say that Darryl's playing adds anything. Maybe other musicians dig what he's playing, but it doesn't translate to what matters, the fan's ears. And yeah, I know all about how he played with Miles Davis. If he's so well regarded, how come nobody clamors for him to play on their records, or on stage? Where's his great jazz solo album? If he was replaced overnight, would it make any difference at all?
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please watch Mick and Keith during Taylor's solo in 'Knockin' at 7.09 - it'll warm your heart..pure Stones