bull,they love each other.

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When did Mick and Keith EVER interact with each other. There was always a distance between them. That is how bands are. I mean look at the Everlys and the Gallaghers, they are brothers and they can't get along with each other. Chill.

they lived in the same apartment when they started out, and went on vacations together throughout the 60s.

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bull,they love each other.

That is incredibly insightful...I yield the rest of my time to you...in the interest of fairness.

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bull,they love each other.

That is incredibly insightful...I yield the rest of my time to you...in the interest of fairness.

A true gentleman you are... and fair.

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bull,they love each other.

That is incredibly insightful...I yield the rest of my time to you...in the interest of fairness.

A true gentleman you are... and fair.

I completely agree with you...and me. I agree with both of us...

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bull,they love each other.

That is incredibly insightful...I yield the rest of my time to you...in the interest of fairness.

A true gentleman you are... and fair.

I completely agree with you...and me. I agree with both of us...

I think you two love each other

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bull,they love each other.

That is incredibly insightful...I yield the rest of my time to you...in the interest of fairness.

A true gentleman you are... and fair.

I completely agree with you...and me. I agree with both of us...

I think you two love each other

Do a search

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bull,they love each other.

That is incredibly insightful...I yield the rest of my time to you...in the interest of fairness.

A true gentleman you are... and fair.

I completely agree with you...and me. I agree with both of us...

I think you two love each other

Do a search

Yeah, I dont love anybody... except the lovely ladies of IORR. They are the BEST!

Oh and I love me some beer.... and I love The Stones.. but that is about it... except for

Grumpy Old Men

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bull,they love each other.

That is incredibly insightful...I yield the rest of my time to you...in the interest of fairness.

A true gentleman you are... and fair.

I completely agree with you...and me. I agree with both of us...

I think you two love each other

Do a search

Yeah, I dont love anybody... except the lovely ladies of IORR. They are the BEST!

Oh and I love me some beer.... and I love The Stones.. but that is about it... except for

I guess its time to have another row...you wanna start?

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bull,they love each other.

That is incredibly insightful...I yield the rest of my time to you...in the interest of fairness.

A true gentleman you are... and fair.

I completely agree with you...and me. I agree with both of us...

I think you two love each other

Do a search

Yeah, I dont love anybody... except the lovely ladies of IORR. They are the BEST!

Oh and I love me some beer.... and I love The Stones.. but that is about it... except for

I guess its time to have another row...you wanna start?

READY SET GO!!! RRRAAARRRR!!!!

Oh wait, hold on, let me finish this beer.

What we dont know wont hurt us.
Just remember........its all this "bickering" and "drama" that has kept them in the headlines and in turn lined their pockets with millions.
Let us not over react to this and be glad there are more concerts to go to!

They are just a couple of pathetic 70 years old men,who can't stand each other,and only money brings them together a couple of hours,every 3 or 4 days..That's It...

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They are just a couple of pathetic 70 years old men,who can't stand each other,and only money brings them together a couple of hours,every 3 or 4 days..That's It...

what do you find pathetic about them?

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What we dont know wont hurt us.
Just remember........its all this "bickering" and "drama" that has kept them in the headlines and in turn lined their pockets with millions.
Let us not over react to this and be glad there are more concerts to go to!

Interesting angle.

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When did Mick and Keith EVER interact with each other. There was always a distance between them. That is how bands are. I mean look at the Everlys and the Gallaghers, they are brothers and they can't get along with each other. Chill.

they lived in the same apartment when they started out, and went on vacations together throughout the 60s.

I think Mick went back to Mum's on a regular basis to get fed and his washing done.

I don't think he was fully engaged on the slum project.

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The money must be a secondary question at this point. I can't believe the money is the key factor here.

wrong-o. the proof would be the answer to this: if the stones were guaranteed, say, 1/10th of what they are getting on this tour (meaning ticket prices would be in the $50-75 range), do you honestly believe they'd bother?

answer: no way.

money is the primary motivating factor. i will no accept any dissent on this point.

It just doesn't make sense to me that money would be the key factor to them, they are nearly 70 years old and they already are very rich (at least Jagger and Richards). It seems psykologically odd that money would be so important to them... If I were in their position I really wouldn't bother tour just for money no matter how much money I would be offered.

Of course they will take the best deal they can get if they decide to go on a tour, I'm not saying that money wouldn't matter to them at all. Jagger seems to be economically ambitious and it goes against his nature to make an economically bad deal but on the other hand he has said that he always keeps on dreaming about performing when he is not on tour. And Keith has said that if you really want to keep the band existing at all, the band must tour.

About those ticket prizes: Jagger has been previously angry about the fact that scalpers have made big profits on Stones tickets, so he has said that it is more fair that the artist who performs will get the money. I must admit that 450 - 600 dollars for seats that are not necessarily even the very best seats in the house is not fair to fans.



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It just doesn't make sense to me that money would be the key factor to them, they are nearly 70 years old and they already are very rich (at least Jagger and Richards). It seems psykologically odd that money would be so important to them...

Have you seen the cost of cryogenic chambers these days?

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The money must be a secondary question at this point. I can't believe the money is the key factor here.

wrong-o. the proof would be the answer to this: if the stones were guaranteed, say, 1/10th of what they are getting on this tour (meaning ticket prices would be in the $50-75 range), do you honestly believe they'd bother?

answer: no way.

money is the primary motivating factor. i will no accept any dissent on this point.

It just doesn't make sense to me that money would be the key factor to them, they are nearly 70 years old and they already are very rich (at least Jagger and Richards). It seems psykologically odd that money would be so important to them... If I were in their position I really wouldn't bother tour just for money no matter how much money I would be offered.

Of course they will take the best deal they can get if they decide to go on a tour, I'm not saying that money wouldn't matter to them at all. Jagger seems to be economically ambitious and it goes against his nature to make an economically bad deal but on the other hand he has said that he always keeps on dreaming about performing when he is not on tour. And Keith has said that if you really want to keep the band existing at all, the band must tour.

About those ticket prizes: Jagger has been previously angry about the fact that scalpers have made big profits on Stones tickets, so he has said that it is more fair that the artist who performs will get the money. I must admit that 450 - 600 dollars for seats that are not necessarily even the very best seats in the house is not fair to fans.

The scalper problem has been around for 45 years. For mick to announce that after 45 years of studying the problem he has now discovered a solution - charge $1500 to stand at his feet and $400 to stand within a quarter mile of him - is spin.

Another motivation, IMO more important than money, don't give the way to another band-artist. Always be under the limelight : records, compilations, tour, controversy between Keith and Mick...

In summary, always be in in the spotlight (newspapers, mags, TV), never to be forgotten. Not be the in center of the stuff is unbearable for Mick and Keith. Always funny to compare with ACDC for example. The Young brothers completely disappear between two Tours.



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I think the "hatred" between Mick and Keith is the eternal Stones marketing trick... There are dissimilarities and disagreetments, of course. But "hate"?? In this case i suppose they wouldn't tour together, since... really, since when? It would be very racking and soul- destroying. Some additional money? There are other ways. Movies, books, etc. Hard to believe that the Stones, after 50 years of career, are torturing themselve, doing somethng they don't really want. No reason for that.

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The money must be a secondary question at this point. I can't believe the money is the key factor here.

wrong-o. the proof would be the answer to this: if the stones were guaranteed, say, 1/10th of what they are getting on this tour (meaning ticket prices would be in the $50-75 range), do you honestly believe they'd bother?

answer: no way.

money is the primary motivating factor. i will no accept any dissent on this point.

Sorry, I am dissenting here. I don't buy that. Mick has more than enough money for his babies. I still think it's the music. They love the music. When they play with very good musicians like Buddy Guy or people like that- you can see the joy in their faces. To be an artist is everything. It transcends money.

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When did Mick and Keith EVER interact with each other. There was always a distance between them. That is how bands are. I mean look at the Everlys and the Gallaghers, they are brothers and they can't get along with each other. Chill.

they lived in the same apartment when they started out, and went on vacations together throughout the 60s.

Yes, and I also agree with Keith, in his book, where he talked about Mick being jealous of Keith's other male friends.

Charlie says that Mick and Keith are like brothers, always fighting and always getting on. It's a paradox.

So no, I am sure what we see onstage is not their whole real relationship.

As fans we have a wealth of video, interviews and DVDs and we can see miles of footage of them and have seen them interact over these many years.

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The money must be a secondary question at this point. I can't believe the money is the key factor here.

wrong-o. the proof would be the answer to this: if the stones were guaranteed, say, 1/10th of what they are getting on this tour (meaning ticket prices would be in the $50-75 range), do you honestly believe they'd bother?

answer: no way.

money is the primary motivating factor. i will no accept any dissent on this point.

Sorry, I am dissenting here. I don't buy that. Mick has more than enough money for his babies. I still think it's the music. They love the music. When they play with very good musicians like Buddy Guy or people like that- you can see the joy in their faces. To be an artist is everything. It transcends money.

well, i gave it my best shot. i'll move onto the next customer and hope for better results.

How can people who have never met these guys comment on their relationship? I've had many of the same friends since first grade + if you heard us speak to each other you would think we hate each other, but the exact opposite is true.

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How can people who have never met these guys comment on their relationship?

very easy. just start typing and there's no telling what might come out...

How many people here have actually met and hung out with Mick and Keith long enough to actually decipher the nature of their relationship or are your conclusions based on their on stage demeanor? If it's the latter, you are talking out of your ass.

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money is the primary motivating factor. i will no accept any dissent on this point.

Sorry, I am dissenting here. I don't buy that. Mick has more than enough money for his babies. I still think it's the music. They love the music. When they play with very good musicians like Buddy Guy or people like that- you can see the joy in their faces. To be an artist is everything. It transcends money.

All rich men like keeping score and like the stated and unstated bragging rights your increasing millions bring. Billionaires keep score. Men who own ten private jets keep score against the men who only own eight.

Mick Jagger walks into a room and people whisper -- "There he goes and have you heard he is worth $320 million after racking up $10 million more in his 2013 tour?" Then the one armed drummer for Def Leppard (worth $50 mil) walks in and is ignored

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How many people here have actually met and hung out with Mick and Keith long enough to actually decipher the nature of their relationship or are your conclusions based on their on stage demeanor? If it's the latter, you are talking out of your ass.

can't speak for community at large, but my conclusions are based on scientific evidence as published in well-respected medical journals. but, i realize that there are those that dispute these conclusions, and i'm fine with that.