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Stoneage
Do they really rehearse at all? According to Mr Perks he was not allowed to either rehearse, soundcheck or choose which song to play on.
Usually they need 10-20 gigs to get their chops together. In this case that will occur just about when the tour ends!
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Stoneage
Do they really rehearse at all? According to Mr Perks he was not allowed to either rehearse, soundcheck or choose which song to play on.
Usually they need 10-20 gigs to get their chops together. In this case that will occur just about when the tour ends!
Yes, it seems that Mr. Jagger was the most affronted by Bill's departure from the band. Keith has spoken warmly of Bill in recent times and invited him to jam in late 2011--but Mick was notoriously absent from most of that jam time, showing up on only the third day and leaving abruptly.
I've often wondered if Mick's solo song Don't Tear Me Up was directed at Bill.
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proudmary
Mick invited Bill to participate in Stones in Exile movie and spoke warmly of him or at least neutrally in the interviews and never boorishly - in contrast to Mr. Richards.
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Stoneage
Do they really rehearse at all? According to Mr Perks he was not allowed to either rehearse, soundcheck or choose which song to play on.
Usually they need 10-20 gigs to get their chops together. In this case that will occur just about when the tour ends!
Yes, it seems that Mr. Jagger was the most affronted by Bill's departure from the band. Keith has spoken warmly of Bill in recent times and invited him to jam in late 2011--but Mick was notoriously absent from most of that jam time, showing up on only the third day and leaving abruptly.
I've often wondered if Mick's solo song Don't Tear Me Up was directed at Bill.
Nonsense. Mick invited Bill to participate in Stones in Exile movie and spoke warmly of him or at least neutrally in the interviews and never boorishly - in contrast to Mr. Richards. More - Bill's wife is Jerry Hall's friend and the close one, and after Wyman's departure from the band Mick and Bill communicated regularly and met on children's birthday parties - while Mr. Richards has not seen Bill for years.
As for London jam in late 2011 Mick was with Martin Scorsese when the latter was awarded the Order of the Legion of Honor in Paris and it was known in advance. I think that this sessions were designed specifically so that Mick could not be there and he still did it.
Btw, Teddy wrote that Bill took part in the New Jersey sessions in May and left early because of the tension. I believe Teddy, he usually knows what he says.
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TeddyB1018
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had it on excellent authority that Bill was at the New Jersey
rehearsals and filming session, not merely in London. The Stones were
not at all thrilled with his attitude (I took this to mean Mick and
Keith both, I don't know about Charlie). It was decided that taking Bill
on in any serious fashion was going to be a pain in the ass. I believe
this is why he was not offered a larger role. I posted this at the time,
not to expect much. He was invited as a guest. If he wanted more, he
certainly didn't play his cards right.
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steini
Who believes that Bill was not allowed to rehearse, soundcheck or whatever?
No way the Stones would take a chance like that or act like that.
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TeddyB1018
i had it on excellent authority that Bill was at the New Jersey rehearsals and filming session, not merely in London. The Stones were not at all thrilled with his attitude (I took this to mean Mick and Keith both, I don't know about Charlie). It was decided that taking Bill on in any serious fashion was going to be a pain in the ass. I believe this is why he was not offered a larger role. I posted this at the time, not to expect much. He was invited as a guest. If he wanted more, he certainly didn't play his cards right.
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DandelionPowderman
Might be that Bill is referring to the NJ-rehearsal as the one rehearsal, sine the London-thing was more informal?
It's not public info that Bill was there, but Teddy has the inside info.
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DandelionPowderman
Don was probably filling in, since it didn't work so well with Bill.
Teddy has stated that he has inside info, extremely good authority. I read somewhere that Bill was seen in NJ as well - but seemingly, this was very low-key.
It's not very unlikely he was there, since the rehearsals spanned thru a longer period of time than we were aware of back then.
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TeddyB1018
What I heard, Bill's attitude was demanding enough that it wasn't only Mick who found him a pain. Remember, the band hadn't been all together save the one day that Mick was able to come by in London. It was important that they fell into a groove together. They were meaning to film, as they did, though choosing not to use it so far. Presumably this is one reason Bill was invited. Don did go in after the start, though I dont know if he was planning to be there anyway. He isn't who told me about what was going on in this case. It's understandable that Bill held his ground, as an original member. Mick Taylor obviously played his hand differently, but he's also a third guitarist, not a replacement for the one bassist. But yeah, I don't think you're going to find official corroboration for any of this in the press. It's the Rolling Stones.
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TeddyB1018
What I heard, Bill's attitude was demanding enough that it wasn't only Mick who found him a pain. Remember, the band hadn't been all together save the one day that Mick was able to come by in London. It was important that they fell into a groove together. They were meaning to film, as they did, though choosing not to use it so far. Presumably this is one reason Bill was invited. Don did go in after the start, though I dont know if he was planning to be there anyway. He isn't who told me about what was going on in this case. It's understandable that Bill held his ground, as an original member. Mick Taylor obviously played his hand differently, but he's also a third guitarist, not a replacement for the one bassist. But yeah, I don't think you're going to find official corroboration for any of this in the press. It's the Rolling Stones.
Isn't this all hearsay? And presumption?
I wasn't there either, so I cannot give hearsay nor presumption. I would like to hear it all from Bill himself.