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Only from each other. Outside of the state nobody notices, they're all the same.
Great point. It took live performances for those songs to really come to life. The studio versions were great, but they are basic structures when compared to how they would build on them live. The live versions that came soon after really shined (mostly due to Taylor's contributions). The Sticky Fingers songs shined more than LIB songs even in their studio form.
Is that you Kleermaker............. the first Taylor record?
Technically/Poduction-wise...........speaking SF is way better then LIB but the feel of Bleed (Stones-wise) is way better then SF..............IMO
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Seeing the list of songs on both of these albums, to me they're both great. Of course, everyone is bound to have their personal favorite.
I like LIB and Beggar's Banquet over SF, not that it matters.
I was listening to Miles Davis yesterday, the "In A Silent Way"-album. On track #2 (there are only two tracks), all of a sudden the very same theme from CYHMK appears, out of nowhere
This is clearly a Miles-jam, all improvised. Since Miles came with this album first, I really start to wonder how improvised the Stones's take was...
You cannot compare Miles/ Stones/ John McLaughlin / Mick Taylor, I love them both though.
Teen ballad sleezy/pure crap/filler? One might think you had a few too many shots of Jack Daniels before you listened to Sticky Fingers but of course you are entitled to your opinion.
I 'Howled" when I read this.....
Rgds
Rod
Whaaaaaaaaat??? It's the second best track on the album, and the best version they ever did - so soulful!
Talk about your favorite band.
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Re: Let it Bleed or Sticky Fingers
Posted by:
GasLightStreet
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Date: February 13, 2013 18:54
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2000 LYFHQuote
MKjan
impossible to choose, glad I don't have to!
2000LYF, OK ABOUT N NJ hackensack,bayonne,jersey city,paterson, carlstadt,
union city, secaucus. Yi yi yiii.I was born and raised in hoboken.
ok, there is ridge wood and franklin lakes and others.
NJ people are different
Oh come on. How am I suppose to know where you stand if you don't tell me.
Only from each other. Outside of the state nobody notices, they're all the same.
Re: Let it Bleed or Sticky Fingers
Posted by:
sweetcharmedlife
()
Date: February 13, 2013 19:34
Sticky Fingers by a mile!
"It's just some friends of mine and they're busting down the door"
"It's just some friends of mine and they're busting down the door"
Re: Let it Bleed or Sticky Fingers
Posted by:
kleermaker
()
Date: February 13, 2013 20:29
Bleed has great songs on it: Shelter, Can't Always Get What You Want, Rambler, LIV for instance. But their performance is poor in my ears. Keith did a great job, but he couldn't fill it all and they missed another guitarist (let's call him Taylor).
Sticky contains also great songs: Sway, Knocking, DF, MM, WH for instance. But they are performed much better, thanks to two guitarists. So SF is the better album. But they are both great of course.
Sticky contains also great songs: Sway, Knocking, DF, MM, WH for instance. But they are performed much better, thanks to two guitarists. So SF is the better album. But they are both great of course.
Re: Let it Bleed or Sticky Fingers
Posted by:
pinkfloydthebarber
()
Date: February 13, 2013 20:39
how can you pick this ?
gimme shelter / brown sugar - shelter
love in vain / sway - sway by a pinch
country honk / wild horses - horses
live with me / can't you hear me knocking - tie
let it bleed / you go ta move - i dunno, i dont much like neither of em - tie
midnight rambler / bitch - gonna go with bitch (prefer rambler live)
you got the silver / i got the blues - love em both, tie
monkey man / sister morphine - monkey man
YCAGWYW / dead flowers - jeebus, i dunno. tie
Moonlight Mile - Moonlight Mile
ok hows that tally up then
sticky by a length
gimme shelter / brown sugar - shelter
love in vain / sway - sway by a pinch
country honk / wild horses - horses
live with me / can't you hear me knocking - tie
let it bleed / you go ta move - i dunno, i dont much like neither of em - tie
midnight rambler / bitch - gonna go with bitch (prefer rambler live)
you got the silver / i got the blues - love em both, tie
monkey man / sister morphine - monkey man
YCAGWYW / dead flowers - jeebus, i dunno. tie
Moonlight Mile - Moonlight Mile
ok hows that tally up then
sticky by a length
Re: Let it Bleed or Sticky Fingers
Posted by:
achilles77
()
Date: February 13, 2013 20:45
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kleermaker
Bleed has great songs on it: Shelter, Can't Always Get What You Want, Rambler, LIV for instance. But their performance is poor in my ears. Keith did a great job, but he couldn't fill it all and they missed another guitarist (let's call him Taylor).
Sticky contains also great songs: Sway, Knocking, DF, MM, WH for instance. But they are performed much better, thanks to two guitarists. So SF is the better album. But they are both great of course.
Great point. It took live performances for those songs to really come to life. The studio versions were great, but they are basic structures when compared to how they would build on them live. The live versions that came soon after really shined (mostly due to Taylor's contributions). The Sticky Fingers songs shined more than LIB songs even in their studio form.
Re: Let it Bleed or Sticky Fingers
Posted by:
JJHMick
()
Date: February 13, 2013 21:26
Side 2 of Let It Bleed is the best Stones side of all albums.
Wasn't Sticky Fingers the working title of Let It Bleed (sorry, if mentioned before but I just joined this thread and didn't read the four pages in between)?
The double album discussion makes more sense if you seperate the songs by their publishing rights: ABKCO or Rolling Stones Records (Musidor actually, isn't it?). But that has been done - I think when Exile pt. II has been released.
Wasn't Sticky Fingers the working title of Let It Bleed (sorry, if mentioned before but I just joined this thread and didn't read the four pages in between)?
The double album discussion makes more sense if you seperate the songs by their publishing rights: ABKCO or Rolling Stones Records (Musidor actually, isn't it?). But that has been done - I think when Exile pt. II has been released.
Re: Let it Bleed or Sticky Fingers
Posted by:
NICOS
()
Date: February 14, 2013 00:40
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kleermaker
Bleed has great songs on it: Shelter, Can't Always Get What You Want, Rambler, LIV for instance. But their performance is poor in my ears. Keith did a great job, but he couldn't fill it all and they missed another guitarist (let's call him Taylor).
Sticky contains also great songs: Sway, Knocking, DF, MM, WH for instance. But they are performed much better, thanks to two guitarists. So SF is the better album. But they are both great of course.
Is that you Kleermaker............. the first Taylor record?
Technically/Poduction-wise...........speaking SF is way better then LIB but the feel of Bleed (Stones-wise) is way better then SF..............IMO
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Re: Let it Bleed or Sticky Fingers
Posted by:
Redhotcarpet
()
Date: February 14, 2013 02:17
gimme shelter / brown sugar - gimme shelter
love in vain / sway - love in vain is so much better, sway is cool but love in vain is a classic
country honk / wild horses - country honk, wild horses is a teen ballad sleazy
live with me / can't you hear me knocking - live with me is better but the second part of knockin is of course great
let it bleed / you go ta move - let it bleed of course although you gotta move was really great in 1975/76
midnight rambler / bitch - rambler of course, bitch is a good rocker but rambler is a masterpiece
you got the silver / i got the blues - you got the silver is a great great song, I got the blues is pure crap
monkey man / sister morphine - monkey man, sister morphine is pointless, filler
YCAGWYW / dead flowers - YCAGWYW is a classic, a masterpiece. dead flowers is a cool filler and a really nice moment in 1972, not bad but a joke compared to YCAGWYW
Moonlight Mile - Moonlight Mile
love in vain / sway - love in vain is so much better, sway is cool but love in vain is a classic
country honk / wild horses - country honk, wild horses is a teen ballad sleazy
live with me / can't you hear me knocking - live with me is better but the second part of knockin is of course great
let it bleed / you go ta move - let it bleed of course although you gotta move was really great in 1975/76
midnight rambler / bitch - rambler of course, bitch is a good rocker but rambler is a masterpiece
you got the silver / i got the blues - you got the silver is a great great song, I got the blues is pure crap
monkey man / sister morphine - monkey man, sister morphine is pointless, filler
YCAGWYW / dead flowers - YCAGWYW is a classic, a masterpiece. dead flowers is a cool filler and a really nice moment in 1972, not bad but a joke compared to YCAGWYW
Moonlight Mile - Moonlight Mile
Re: Let it Bleed or Sticky Fingers
Posted by:
nightskyman
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Date: February 14, 2013 04:08
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2000 LYFH
Which is it?
Let It Bleed:
Gimmie Shelter
Love in Vain
Country Honk
Live With Me
Let It Bleed
Midnight Rambler
You Got the Silver
Monkey Man
You Can't Always Get What You Want
Sticky Fingers:
Brown Sugar
Sway
Wild Horses
Can't You Hear Me Knocking
You Gotta Move
Bitch
I Got The Blues
Sister Morphine
Dead Flowers
Moonlight Mile
And for those of you who favor Exile On Main Street, if Let It Bleed and Sticky Fingers were a double album, which would you then chose?
I'll go with Let It Bleed and the Let It Bleed/Sticky Fingers combo
Seeing the list of songs on both of these albums, to me they're both great. Of course, everyone is bound to have their personal favorite.
I like LIB and Beggar's Banquet over SF, not that it matters.
Re: Let it Bleed or Sticky Fingers
Posted by:
slew
()
Date: February 14, 2013 04:30
My poll as to why I prefer LIB over SF
GS vs. BS = GS both great but GS is my favorite song
LIV vs S = LIV
CH vs WH = WH
LWM vs CYHMK = CYMHK
LIB vs YGM = LIB
MR vs B = MR
YGS vs IGTB = YGS
MM VS SM = MM
YCAGWYW vs DF = YCAGWYW
Nothing vs MM = MM
I think we have 18 great songs and one clunker in Country Honk but I like most of the LIB songs a littl bit more the SF songs.
GS vs. BS = GS both great but GS is my favorite song
LIV vs S = LIV
CH vs WH = WH
LWM vs CYHMK = CYMHK
LIB vs YGM = LIB
MR vs B = MR
YGS vs IGTB = YGS
MM VS SM = MM
YCAGWYW vs DF = YCAGWYW
Nothing vs MM = MM
I think we have 18 great songs and one clunker in Country Honk but I like most of the LIB songs a littl bit more the SF songs.
Re: Let it Bleed or Sticky Fingers
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
()
Date: February 14, 2013 10:46
Quote
Redhotcarpet
gimme shelter / brown sugar - gimme shelter
love in vain / sway - love in vain is so much better, sway is cool but love in vain is a classic
country honk / wild horses - country honk, wild horses is a teen ballad sleazy
live with me / can't you hear me knocking - live with me is better but the second part of knockin is of course great
let it bleed / you go ta move - let it bleed of course although you gotta move was really great in 1975/76
midnight rambler / bitch - rambler of course, bitch is a good rocker but rambler is a masterpiece
you got the silver / i got the blues - you got the silver is a great great song, I got the blues is pure crap
monkey man / sister morphine - monkey man, sister morphine is pointless, filler
YCAGWYW / dead flowers - YCAGWYW is a classic, a masterpiece. dead flowers is a cool filler and a really nice moment in 1972, not bad but a joke compared to YCAGWYW
Moonlight Mile - Moonlight Mile
I was listening to Miles Davis yesterday, the "In A Silent Way"-album. On track #2 (there are only two tracks), all of a sudden the very same theme from CYHMK appears, out of nowhere
This is clearly a Miles-jam, all improvised. Since Miles came with this album first, I really start to wonder how improvised the Stones's take was...Re: Let it Bleed or Sticky Fingers
Posted by:
Palace Revolution 2000
()
Date: February 14, 2013 12:01
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FrankM
Both are great albums but I much prefer Sticky Fingers.
GS vs. BS ----- GS
LIV vs. S ----- S
CH vs. WH ----- WH
LWM vs. CYHMK ----- CYHMK
LIB vs. YGM ----- LIB
MR vs. B ----- B
YGTS vs. IGTB ----- IGTB
MM vs. SM ----- MM
YCAGWYW vs. DF ----- YCAGWYW
no track vs. MM ----- MM
Re: Let it Bleed or Sticky Fingers
Posted by:
runaway
()
Date: February 14, 2013 16:25
LIB and SF both were produced by Jimmy Miller
Both albums belong to the RS music heigts in their musical history!
I certainly listened to hundreds of times these vinyl records and both are awesome for me. So no choice possible
Both albums belong to the RS music heigts in their musical history!
I certainly listened to hundreds of times these vinyl records and both are awesome for me. So no choice possible
Re: Let it Bleed or Sticky Fingers
Posted by:
VT22
()
Date: February 14, 2013 17:02
Quote
DandelionPowdermanQuote
Redhotcarpet
gimme shelter / brown sugar - gimme shelter
love in vain / sway - love in vain is so much better, sway is cool but love in vain is a classic
country honk / wild horses - country honk, wild horses is a teen ballad sleazy
live with me / can't you hear me knocking - live with me is better but the second part of knockin is of course great
let it bleed / you go ta move - let it bleed of course although you gotta move was really great in 1975/76
midnight rambler / bitch - rambler of course, bitch is a good rocker but rambler is a masterpiece
you got the silver / i got the blues - you got the silver is a great great song, I got the blues is pure crap
monkey man / sister morphine - monkey man, sister morphine is pointless, filler
YCAGWYW / dead flowers - YCAGWYW is a classic, a masterpiece. dead flowers is a cool filler and a really nice moment in 1972, not bad but a joke compared to YCAGWYW
Moonlight Mile - Moonlight Mile
I was listening to Miles Davis yesterday, the "In A Silent Way"-album. On track #2 (there are only two tracks), all of a sudden the very same theme from CYHMK appears, out of nowhere
You cannot compare Miles/ Stones/ John McLaughlin / Mick Taylor, I love them both though.
Re: Let it Bleed or Sticky Fingers
Posted by:
Redhotcarpet
()
Date: February 14, 2013 17:24
Still Taylors has that style of his and its not the same note for note. But, yes the drums, rhythm, bass is the same
Re: Let it Bleed or Sticky Fingers
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
()
Date: February 14, 2013 17:27
The Stones NEVER copy note for note - they're too clever for that 
It's pretty much note for note by the bass, though.
Great, great album, btw.
It's pretty much note for note by the bass, though.
Great, great album, btw.
Re: Let it Bleed or Sticky Fingers
Posted by:
FrankM
()
Date: February 14, 2013 19:43
Quote
Redhotcarpet
gimme shelter / brown sugar - gimme shelter
love in vain / sway - love in vain is so much better, sway is cool but love in vain is a classic
country honk / wild horses - country honk, wild horses is a teen ballad sleazy
live with me / can't you hear me knocking - live with me is better but the second part of knockin is of course great
let it bleed / you go ta move - let it bleed of course although you gotta move was really great in 1975/76
midnight rambler / bitch - rambler of course, bitch is a good rocker but rambler is a masterpiece
you got the silver / i got the blues - you got the silver is a great great song, I got the blues is pure crap
monkey man / sister morphine - monkey man, sister morphine is pointless, filler
YCAGWYW / dead flowers - YCAGWYW is a classic, a masterpiece. dead flowers is a cool filler and a really nice moment in 1972, not bad but a joke compared to YCAGWYW
Moonlight Mile - Moonlight Mile
Teen ballad sleezy/pure crap/filler? One might think you had a few too many shots of Jack Daniels before you listened to Sticky Fingers but of course you are entitled to your opinion.
Re: Let it Bleed or Sticky Fingers
Posted by:
Redhotcarpet
()
Date: February 14, 2013 20:24
Sober but thats the thing, I hate Wild horses, it's too much. Love in vain is melancholy without trying, Wild Horses is in your face. I got the blues is horrible pretending to be blues, Let it bleed is rough and real. Sister Morphine is trying to be something.
I LOVE LET IT BLEED!
I LOVE LET IT BLEED!
Re: Let it Bleed or Sticky Fingers
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
()
Date: February 14, 2013 21:13
Pretending to be...the blues??????? It's a classic soul ballad, and a good one as well!
You can't be more honest than Wild Horses...
You can't be more honest than Wild Horses...
Re: Let it Bleed or Sticky Fingers
Posted by:
scottkeef
()
Date: February 15, 2013 02:29
I cant really decide between these myself. I think SF stands up well against Bleed considering "Let It Bleed" was pretty much a planned and constructed LP and "Sticky Fingers" is more a "hodgepodge" collection of songs that just happened to be used on one record.
Re: Let it Bleed or Sticky Fingers
Posted by:
His Majesty
()
Date: February 15, 2013 02:36
Quote
scottkeef
idering "Let It Bleed" was pretty much a planned and constructed LP and "Sticky Fingers" is more a "hodgepodge" collection of songs that just happened to be used on one record.
Re: Let it Bleed or Sticky Fingers
Posted by:
lazzzybones
()
Date: February 15, 2013 03:07
Love In Vain and Country Honk take Let It Bleed down a notch. I LOVE "Love In Vain" from GYYYO though.Always skip Country Honk.
Never skip anything from Sticky Fingers.
Never skip anything from Sticky Fingers.
Re: Let it Bleed or Sticky Fingers
Posted by:
custom55
()
Date: February 15, 2013 04:05
SF has a lot of great memories for me so SF.
Re: Let it Bleed or Sticky Fingers
Posted by:
slew
()
Date: February 15, 2013 04:54
Redhotcarpet - I am with you I feel Let it Bleed is the better album but Sticky Fingers is a great album in its own right. I Got the Blue, Wild Horses and Dead Flowes are NOT pure crap, sleazy teen ballad or enjoyable filler they are all great songs in their own right.
Re: Let it Bleed or Sticky Fingers
Posted by:
Redhotcarpet
()
Date: February 15, 2013 09:28
Signing in I accidently typed redhotcrap. ><
True, I got the blues is soul, but I dont like it and even though I like Dead Flowers, really like it, it's doesnt feel "real" in the same way every track on Let it bleed does. I think it might have to do with the production and how they sounded on Bleed. It sounds like an album recorded with one band during a short time, while Sticky is more a collection of songs like scottkeef said. And I know everybody loves Wild Horses but sorry, no. When I was younger Id say Wild Horses and Sway were better songs than CH and LIV. Sway is not bad at all.
Also BS, being the great song it is - one of the greatest ever, is not a masterpiece in the same way, the work of genius, like Shelter or Rambler. Or YCAGWYW for that matter. Shelter is depth within one genre, rock drama, Rambler is their ever present dark passanger.
Maybe Brown Sugar is their rolling New Orleans master piece but theres something about the studio recording I dont like. Maybe its the compressed sound. Live in the 70s it was one of the three highlights of course.
Sticky lacks something that makes it sound like a collection of songs released as an album compared to Let it bleed where even the "weak" songs are motivated.
You gotta move sounds like something they had to throw in there because they needed a blues. I got the blues is the soul ballad thrown in. Sister Morphine is meant to be a dark song about smack but comes off like posing.
My Sticky:
Brown Sugar
Wild Horses (fine, keep it)
Bitch
Cant you hear me knockin
(Potted Schrimp)
Sway
Dead Flowers
Moonlight Mile
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2013-02-15 09:29 by Redhotcarpet.
<True, I got the blues is soul, but I dont like it and even though I like Dead Flowers, really like it, it's doesnt feel "real" in the same way every track on Let it bleed does. I think it might have to do with the production and how they sounded on Bleed. It sounds like an album recorded with one band during a short time, while Sticky is more a collection of songs like scottkeef said. And I know everybody loves Wild Horses but sorry, no. When I was younger Id say Wild Horses and Sway were better songs than CH and LIV. Sway is not bad at all.
Also BS, being the great song it is - one of the greatest ever, is not a masterpiece in the same way, the work of genius, like Shelter or Rambler. Or YCAGWYW for that matter. Shelter is depth within one genre, rock drama, Rambler is their ever present dark passanger.
Maybe Brown Sugar is their rolling New Orleans master piece but theres something about the studio recording I dont like. Maybe its the compressed sound. Live in the 70s it was one of the three highlights of course.
Sticky lacks something that makes it sound like a collection of songs released as an album compared to Let it bleed where even the "weak" songs are motivated.
You gotta move sounds like something they had to throw in there because they needed a blues. I got the blues is the soul ballad thrown in. Sister Morphine is meant to be a dark song about smack but comes off like posing.
My Sticky:
Brown Sugar
Wild Horses (fine, keep it)
Bitch
Cant you hear me knockin
(Potted Schrimp)
Sway
Dead Flowers
Moonlight Mile
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2013-02-15 09:29 by Redhotcarpet.
Re: Let it Bleed or Sticky Fingers
Posted by:
howled
()
Date: February 15, 2013 10:02
Sticky Fingers.
If LIB and Sticky were a double album, then Exile would not be able to match it.
Exile has a few good things on it, but I think it's full of castoffs that were not good enough for LIB and Sticky in the first place.
If LIB and Sticky were a double album, then Exile would not be able to match it.
Exile has a few good things on it, but I think it's full of castoffs that were not good enough for LIB and Sticky in the first place.
Re: Let it Bleed or Sticky Fingers
Posted by:
bitusa2012
()
Date: February 15, 2013 10:05
gimme shelter / brown sugar - Gimme Shelter
love in vain / sway - Sway
country honk / wild horses - WILD Horses (ALMOST my face Stones tune ever)
live with me / can't you hear me knocking - CYHMK
let it bleed / you go ta move - YGTMove
midnight rambler / bitch - Midnight Rambler (ACE TRACK)
you got the silver / i got the blues - SILVER
monkey man / sister morphine - This is a tie - LOVE 'em both
YCAGWYW / dead flowers - YCAGWYW
Moonlight Mile - Moonlight Mile
So like for like its 4 LIB and 4 SF, and 1 TIE so cant split them. Moonlight SHOULD tip it to SF ... YET, when I reach for one or the other, I find almost always I gravitate to Let it Bleed. Go figure
Rgds
Rod
Perth
love in vain / sway - Sway
country honk / wild horses - WILD Horses (ALMOST my face Stones tune ever)
live with me / can't you hear me knocking - CYHMK
let it bleed / you go ta move - YGTMove
midnight rambler / bitch - Midnight Rambler (ACE TRACK)
you got the silver / i got the blues - SILVER
monkey man / sister morphine - This is a tie - LOVE 'em both
YCAGWYW / dead flowers - YCAGWYW
Moonlight Mile - Moonlight Mile
So like for like its 4 LIB and 4 SF, and 1 TIE so cant split them. Moonlight SHOULD tip it to SF ... YET, when I reach for one or the other, I find almost always I gravitate to Let it Bleed. Go figure
Rgds
Rod
Perth
Re: Let it Bleed or Sticky Fingers
Posted by:
bitusa2012
()
Date: February 15, 2013 10:06
Quote
howled
Sticky Fingers.
If LIB and Sticky were a double album, then Exile would not be able to match it.
Exile has a few good things on it, but I think it's full of castoffs that were not good enough for LIB and Sticky in the first place.
I 'Howled" when I read this.....
Rgds
Rod
Re: Let it Bleed or Sticky Fingers
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
()
Date: February 15, 2013 11:03
Quote
lazzzybones
Love In Vain and Country Honk take Let It Bleed down a notch. I LOVE "Love In Vain" from GYYYO though.Always skip Country Honk.
Never skip anything from Sticky Fingers.
Whaaaaaaaaat??? It's the second best track on the album, and the best version they ever did - so soulful!
Re: Let it Bleed or Sticky Fingers
Posted by:
ab
()
Date: February 15, 2013 12:32
Love 'em both, but I'd go with Let It Bleed.
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