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tomcasagranda
I just feel that Overtures is a bad album, and even sloppier than usual.
Ronnie did have to fight to place tracks on Faces albums.
Thanks TomCG. I agree re Overtures. I used to always think that it was not even a real Faces album; that either it was some Muzak type music, or it was the Faces but put out sort of like "No Stone Unturned" or "Metamorphosis". terrible album
I never saw it that Ronnie had a hard time getting his songs on an album. Most likely he could put whatever he want on there. The hard part might have been letting go of them, and seeing Rod sing them. On "Ooh LaLa" there's a few of those.
I think Overtures also isn't that well regarded amongst the Faces themselves. It has remained deleted for a long period of time.
No kidding. I remember that too.
I still have this huge poster, that came inside one of the Faces albums. And I cant remember which one. It's a big poster with many small pics on it.
However, I can remember, and it wasn't that long ago, circa 1992, when the only Faces cds available were a rather pricy Snakes & Ladders Japanese import, and Overtures & Beginners.
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GravityBoy
The real sad thing is that Ronnie never made the same scale of contributions to the Stones.
Either he wasn't allowed or he was a bit shy.
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ChicagoCalling
Just taking an inventory of my record / music collection and notice that 99.5% of my absolute favorite music releases were recorded prior to the end of '75. The date of Faces breakup sort of coincides with the end of a period of influence that defines my musical DNA (if there is such a thing). Funny that...
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TheGreek
Rod Stewart broke up the faces with all his prima donna moves wanting to be billed separately in front of the Faces . Rod has to always have something to gripe about instead of his paltry songwriting ability instead !
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Rocky Dijon
Fans like to view bands as gangs instead of business ventures. The Beatles, Faces, Zeppelin, The Who, The Kinks, The Rolling Stones, The Beach Boys are all business ventures. Sometimes people leave the partnership and are replaced. Sometimes the venture is dissolved. This is reality, but it doesn't fit the self-mythologizing side of fandom that makes one want to call middle-aged and now geriatric men "boys" and prefer something with limited commercial appeal because it is "cool."
In this way, Faces like Ronnie Wood, Ronnie Lane, and Ian McLagan solo are seen as valid compared to the far more successful Rod Stewart who is resented as creatively bankrupt by a minority of vocal fans of Faces. The same phenomena occurs with The Rolling Stones where Keith Richards & The X-Pensive Winos are seen as valid and "cool" and cold, calculating, desperate Mick Jagger is creatively bankrupt and portrayed as loathsome or lacking in masculine characteristics. This perception is even endorsed by the media because gossip sells while simple dollars and cents approach to success isn't good copy outside of trade magazines.
Why did the business venture operating as Faces dissolve? The simple answer is the venture had started operating as a subsidiary to a separate venture by one of its chief operating officers. Following Ronnie Lane's exit of the partnership, Rod Stewart was left as the sole principal in the organization. The only other choice apart from dissolution was for Faces to be legally recognized as a wholly-owned subsidiary of Rod Stewart. This did not sit well with the other directors who lacked the ability to steer Faces creatively and so it was dissolved as a venture.
Same story as The Beatles, but fans and the media find it easier to say it is Yoko's fault. Sell it as a gang and you have fan addiction to the narrative being controlled. Sell it as reality as a business venture and you have no ability to create drama and sell copy. Where would Jane Rose or her client be without the ability to sell the narrative? You would be left with dull, business-focused, cold, calculating Mick Jagger who steered the venture to success on a different level once it was clear neither the band brand nor Jagger the solo brand could continue to compete on the same level creatively.
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The Sicilian
A couple great interviews with Kenney Jones from 2013 that I just happened to watch earlier today. He discusses the Faces, The Who, Charlie Watts, John Bonham, etc...and how the Faces formed and how he got into music, a great listen and watch in two parts:
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Cooltoplady
Hate to be a b**** but why do people keep calling them The Faces its just Faces. It's like saying The Motley Crew, its just Motley Crew. OK Im done.