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Does anyone wanna hear my thoughts after the NY shows?

Who the hell is Jal?

It's Jah.

Jah's not dead.

It's a kinda anti-Nietzsche thing by dyslexic rastafarians.

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Mathijs
Alright then, here’s my review.

My seat was Wood’s side, front row, right against the barrier. Security told us that we where not allowed to stand at the barrier for safety reasons, but if you would sit on the designated seat you would not see the stage at all. As it turned out, we where invited to stand at the barrier right after the drums intro. We where at the barrier with only two dozen or so people, meaning no pushing and sufficient room, and we could just walk around and return to the same spot on the barrier. The crowd was different to ‘normal’ Stones gigs: many people looking like Russian oil millionaires -posh dressed guys with ladies with plastic boobs in tiger suits. Oh well.

Sound wasn’t too good where I was standing during the first couple of songs. You could hear the stage sound, and an echo from the hall. It improved after a couple of songs, but it lacked sheer volume throughout the entire gig. Musically, I thought the show was really good at times, better than the last couple of tours. I think Jagger can be added to the seven World Wonders –man he is good. He’s got an old head, but that’s really it. He moved like a young guy, sang just perfect without that nasal quality his voice has gained over the years, and he really is the master of the stage.

There where fantastic songs like Lady Jane, the best ever Gimme Shelter I've seen(she really had similarities to Merry Clayton in her voice), Doom & Gloom really worked well live, Clapton’s spot was great, Live With me rocked, YCAGWYW just fantastic. Some lesser songs as well: I Wanna Be Your Man was great to hear, but Richards got lost during Wood’s solo. One Last Shot is really nothing but an outtake that would have been rejected for release by any bootleg label. The rest of the songs where good, I thought.

I wouldn’t say Richards is better per se than on the last tours. Yes, he’s focussed, concentrated, and doesn’t make a lot of mistakes. But, in my opinion, the real fire is gone –I thought his playing has become bland, it lacks the aggression he use to have. His playing is fairly limited to basic chords and basic rhythm playing, with the odd –great- solo bursts. He still is a terrible lead player though on tracks like Sympathy and Satisfaction. But Richards doesn’t push the music anymore they way he used to do up to 2003, he isn’t driving it anymore. It feels like he now is a guitarist like you and me, a real person again, a mortal and not a rock god anymore.

I liked most guest spots very much. It was great to see Clapton, great to hear Wyman on bass, Gimme Shelter was fantastic. But to be honest, I wasn’t too sure about Taylor. I thought that he just looked awkward, prowling around, acting like the prodigal son, and acting like a guitar god. He looked out of place, being three times the size of Richards and Wood combined, his playing was a bit shaky and he’s lost most of his fluidity. I thought his sound was just bad. I guess he used the Tweed Deluxe, and man it was brittle, spiky, too much treble. It just sounded nasty from where I was standing. By the way, on many occasions Richards tone also was sharp and trebly.

But I really enjoyed the show. It was a great night and I wouldn’t want to have missed it. It was entertaining, fun, a good night out. It isn’t earth shattering or groundbreaking, it’s just good, solid, professional latter day Stones.

Mathijs

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By the way, on many occasions Richards tone also was sharp and trebly.

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Mathijs
Alright then, here’s my review.

My seat was Wood’s side, front row, right against the barrier. Security told us that we where not allowed to stand at the barrier for safety reasons, but if you would sit on the designated seat you would not see the stage at all. As it turned out, we where invited to stand at the barrier right after the drums intro. We where at the barrier with only two dozen or so people, meaning no pushing and sufficient room, and we could just walk around and return to the same spot on the barrier. The crowd was different to ‘normal’ Stones gigs: many people looking like Russian oil millionaires -posh dressed guys with ladies with plastic boobs in tiger suits. Oh well.

Sound wasn’t too good where I was standing during the first couple of songs. You could hear the stage sound, and an echo from the hall. It improved after a couple of songs, but it lacked sheer volume throughout the entire gig. Musically, I thought the show was really good at times, better than the last couple of tours. I think Jagger can be added to the seven World Wonders –man he is good. He’s got an old head, but that’s really it. He moved like a young guy, sang just perfect without that nasal quality his voice has gained over the years, and he really is the master of the stage.

There where fantastic songs like Lady Jane, the best ever Gimme Shelter I've seen(she really had similarities to Merry Clayton in her voice), Doom & Gloom really worked well live, Clapton’s spot was great, Live With me rocked, YCAGWYW just fantastic. Some lesser songs as well: I Wanna Be Your Man was great to hear, but Richards got lost during Wood’s solo. One Last Shot is really nothing but an outtake that would have been rejected for release by any bootleg label. The rest of the songs where good, I thought.

I wouldn’t say Richards is better per se than on the last tours. Yes, he’s focussed, concentrated, and doesn’t make a lot of mistakes. But, in my opinion, the real fire is gone –I thought his playing has become bland, it lacks the aggression he use to have. His playing is fairly limited to basic chords and basic rhythm playing, with the odd –great- solo bursts. He still is a terrible lead player though on tracks like Sympathy and Satisfaction. But Richards doesn’t push the music anymore they way he used to do up to 2003, he isn’t driving it anymore. It feels like he now is a guitarist like you and me, a real person again, a mortal and not a rock god anymore.

I liked most guest spots very much. It was great to see Clapton, great to hear Wyman on bass, Gimme Shelter was fantastic. But to be honest, I wasn’t too sure about Taylor. I thought that he just looked awkward, prowling around, acting like the prodigal son, and acting like a guitar god. He looked out of place, being three times the size of Richards and Wood combined, his playing was a bit shaky and he’s lost most of his fluidity. I thought his sound was just bad. I guess he used the Tweed Deluxe, and man it was brittle, spiky, too much treble. It just sounded nasty from where I was standing. By the way, on many occasions Richards tone also was sharp and trebly.

But I really enjoyed the show. It was a great night and I wouldn’t want to have missed it. It was entertaining, fun, a good night out. It isn’t earth shattering or groundbreaking, it’s just good, solid, professional latter day Stones.

Mathijs

Doubt if you were even there.

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Mathijs
Alright then, here’s my review.

My seat was Wood’s side, front row, right against the barrier. Security told us that we where not allowed to stand at the barrier for safety reasons, but if you would sit on the designated seat you would not see the stage at all. As it turned out, we where invited to stand at the barrier right after the drums intro. We where at the barrier with only two dozen or so people, meaning no pushing and sufficient room, and we could just walk around and return to the same spot on the barrier. The crowd was different to ‘normal’ Stones gigs: many people looking like Russian oil millionaires -posh dressed guys with ladies with plastic boobs in tiger suits. Oh well.

Sound wasn’t too good where I was standing during the first couple of songs. You could hear the stage sound, and an echo from the hall. It improved after a couple of songs, but it lacked sheer volume throughout the entire gig. Musically, I thought the show was really good at times, better than the last couple of tours. I think Jagger can be added to the seven World Wonders –man he is good. He’s got an old head, but that’s really it. He moved like a young guy, sang just perfect without that nasal quality his voice has gained over the years, and he really is the master of the stage.

There where fantastic songs like Lady Jane, the best ever Gimme Shelter I've seen(she really had similarities to Merry Clayton in her voice), Doom & Gloom really worked well live, Clapton’s spot was great, Live With me rocked, YCAGWYW just fantastic. Some lesser songs as well: I Wanna Be Your Man was great to hear, but Richards got lost during Wood’s solo. One Last Shot is really nothing but an outtake that would have been rejected for release by any bootleg label. The rest of the songs where good, I thought.

I wouldn’t say Richards is better per se than on the last tours. Yes, he’s focussed, concentrated, and doesn’t make a lot of mistakes. But, in my opinion, the real fire is gone –I thought his playing has become bland, it lacks the aggression he use to have. His playing is fairly limited to basic chords and basic rhythm playing, with the odd –great- solo bursts. He still is a terrible lead player though on tracks like Sympathy and Satisfaction. But Richards doesn’t push the music anymore they way he used to do up to 2003, he isn’t driving it anymore. It feels like he now is a guitarist like you and me, a real person again, a mortal and not a rock god anymore.

I liked most guest spots very much. It was great to see Clapton, great to hear Wyman on bass, Gimme Shelter was fantastic. But to be honest, I wasn’t too sure about Taylor. I thought that he just looked awkward, prowling around, acting like the prodigal son, and acting like a guitar god. He looked out of place, being three times the size of Richards and Wood combined, his playing was a bit shaky and he’s lost most of his fluidity. I thought his sound was just bad. I guess he used the Tweed Deluxe, and man it was brittle, spiky, too much treble. It just sounded nasty from where I was standing. By the way, on many occasions Richards tone also was sharp and trebly.

But I really enjoyed the show. It was a great night and I wouldn’t want to have missed it. It was entertaining, fun, a good night out. It isn’t earth shattering or groundbreaking, it’s just good, solid, professional latter day Stones.

Mathijs

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Mathijs
Alright then, here’s my review.

My seat was Wood’s side, front row, right against the barrier. Security told us that we where not allowed to stand at the barrier for safety reasons, but if you would sit on the designated seat you would not see the stage at all. As it turned out, we where invited to stand at the barrier right after the drums intro. We where at the barrier with only two dozen or so people, meaning no pushing and sufficient room, and we could just walk around and return to the same spot on the barrier. The crowd was different to ‘normal’ Stones gigs: many people looking like Russian oil millionaires -posh dressed guys with ladies with plastic boobs in tiger suits. Oh well.

Sound wasn’t too good where I was standing during the first couple of songs. You could hear the stage sound, and an echo from the hall. It improved after a couple of songs, but it lacked sheer volume throughout the entire gig. Musically, I thought the show was really good at times, better than the last couple of tours. I think Jagger can be added to the seven World Wonders –man he is good. He’s got an old head, but that’s really it. He moved like a young guy, sang just perfect without that nasal quality his voice has gained over the years, and he really is the master of the stage.

There where fantastic songs like Lady Jane, the best ever Gimme Shelter I've seen(she really had similarities to Merry Clayton in her voice), Doom & Gloom really worked well live, Clapton’s spot was great, Live With me rocked, YCAGWYW just fantastic. Some lesser songs as well: I Wanna Be Your Man was great to hear, but Richards got lost during Wood’s solo. One Last Shot is really nothing but an outtake that would have been rejected for release by any bootleg label. The rest of the songs where good, I thought.

I wouldn’t say Richards is better per se than on the last tours. Yes, he’s focussed, concentrated, and doesn’t make a lot of mistakes. But, in my opinion, the real fire is gone –I thought his playing has become bland, it lacks the aggression he use to have. His playing is fairly limited to basic chords and basic rhythm playing, with the odd –great- solo bursts. He still is a terrible lead player though on tracks like Sympathy and Satisfaction. But Richards doesn’t push the music anymore they way he used to do up to 2003, he isn’t driving it anymore. It feels like he now is a guitarist like you and me, a real person again, a mortal and not a rock god anymore.

I liked most guest spots very much. It was great to see Clapton, great to hear Wyman on bass, Gimme Shelter was fantastic. But to be honest, I wasn’t too sure about Taylor. I thought that he just looked awkward, prowling around, acting like the prodigal son, and acting like a guitar god. He looked out of place, being three times the size of Richards and Wood combined, his playing was a bit shaky and he’s lost most of his fluidity. I thought his sound was just bad. I guess he used the Tweed Deluxe, and man it was brittle, spiky, too much treble. It just sounded nasty from where I was standing. By the way, on many occasions Richards tone also was sharp and trebly.

But I really enjoyed the show. It was a great night and I wouldn’t want to have missed it. It was entertaining, fun, a good night out. It isn’t earth shattering or groundbreaking, it’s just good, solid, professional latter day Stones.

Mathijs

Any pics???

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Mathijs
Alright then, here’s my review.

My seat was Wood’s side, front row, right against the barrier. Security told us that we where not allowed to stand at the barrier for safety reasons, but if you would sit on the designated seat you would not see the stage at all. As it turned out, we where invited to stand at the barrier right after the drums intro. We where at the barrier with only two dozen or so people, meaning no pushing and sufficient room, and we could just walk around and return to the same spot on the barrier. The crowd was different to ‘normal’ Stones gigs: many people looking like Russian oil millionaires -posh dressed guys with ladies with plastic boobs in tiger suits. Oh well.

Sound wasn’t too good where I was standing during the first couple of songs. You could hear the stage sound, and an echo from the hall. It improved after a couple of songs, but it lacked sheer volume throughout the entire gig. Musically, I thought the show was really good at times, better than the last couple of tours. I think Jagger can be added to the seven World Wonders –man he is good. He’s got an old head, but that’s really it. He moved like a young guy, sang just perfect without that nasal quality his voice has gained over the years, and he really is the master of the stage.

There where fantastic songs like Lady Jane, the best ever Gimme Shelter I've seen(she really had similarities to Merry Clayton in her voice), Doom & Gloom really worked well live, Clapton’s spot was great, Live With me rocked, YCAGWYW just fantastic. Some lesser songs as well: I Wanna Be Your Man was great to hear, but Richards got lost during Wood’s solo. One Last Shot is really nothing but an outtake that would have been rejected for release by any bootleg label. The rest of the songs where good, I thought.

I wouldn’t say Richards is better per se than on the last tours. Yes, he’s focussed, concentrated, and doesn’t make a lot of mistakes. But, in my opinion, the real fire is gone –I thought his playing has become bland, it lacks the aggression he use to have. His playing is fairly limited to basic chords and basic rhythm playing, with the odd –great- solo bursts. He still is a terrible lead player though on tracks like Sympathy and Satisfaction. But Richards doesn’t push the music anymore they way he used to do up to 2003, he isn’t driving it anymore. It feels like he now is a guitarist like you and me, a real person again, a mortal and not a rock god anymore.

I liked most guest spots very much. It was great to see Clapton, great to hear Wyman on bass, Gimme Shelter was fantastic. But to be honest, I wasn’t too sure about Taylor. I thought that he just looked awkward, prowling around, acting like the prodigal son, and acting like a guitar god. He looked out of place, being three times the size of Richards and Wood combined, his playing was a bit shaky and he’s lost most of his fluidity. I thought his sound was just bad. I guess he used the Tweed Deluxe, and man it was brittle, spiky, too much treble. It just sounded nasty from where I was standing. By the way, on many occasions Richards tone also was sharp and trebly.

But I really enjoyed the show. It was a great night and I wouldn’t want to have missed it. It was entertaining, fun, a good night out. It isn’t earth shattering or groundbreaking, it’s just good, solid, professional latter day Stones.

Mathijs

Any pics???

is this the new iorr policy and standard? we need visual proof that we don't lie? oh, dear...i'm in a heap of trouble....

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Mathijs
Alright then, here’s my review.

My seat was Wood’s side, front row, right against the barrier. Security told us that we where not allowed to stand at the barrier for safety reasons, but if you would sit on the designated seat you would not see the stage at all. As it turned out, we where invited to stand at the barrier right after the drums intro. We where at the barrier with only two dozen or so people, meaning no pushing and sufficient room, and we could just walk around and return to the same spot on the barrier. The crowd was different to ‘normal’ Stones gigs: many people looking like Russian oil millionaires -posh dressed guys with ladies with plastic boobs in tiger suits. Oh well.

Sound wasn’t too good where I was standing during the first couple of songs. You could hear the stage sound, and an echo from the hall. It improved after a couple of songs, but it lacked sheer volume throughout the entire gig. Musically, I thought the show was really good at times, better than the last couple of tours. I think Jagger can be added to the seven World Wonders –man he is good. He’s got an old head, but that’s really it. He moved like a young guy, sang just perfect without that nasal quality his voice has gained over the years, and he really is the master of the stage.

There where fantastic songs like Lady Jane, the best ever Gimme Shelter I've seen(she really had similarities to Merry Clayton in her voice), Doom & Gloom really worked well live, Clapton’s spot was great, Live With me rocked, YCAGWYW just fantastic. Some lesser songs as well: I Wanna Be Your Man was great to hear, but Richards got lost during Wood’s solo. One Last Shot is really nothing but an outtake that would have been rejected for release by any bootleg label. The rest of the songs where good, I thought.

I wouldn’t say Richards is better per se than on the last tours. Yes, he’s focussed, concentrated, and doesn’t make a lot of mistakes. But, in my opinion, the real fire is gone –I thought his playing has become bland, it lacks the aggression he use to have. His playing is fairly limited to basic chords and basic rhythm playing, with the odd –great- solo bursts. He still is a terrible lead player though on tracks like Sympathy and Satisfaction. But Richards doesn’t push the music anymore they way he used to do up to 2003, he isn’t driving it anymore. It feels like he now is a guitarist like you and me, a real person again, a mortal and not a rock god anymore.

I liked most guest spots very much. It was great to see Clapton, great to hear Wyman on bass, Gimme Shelter was fantastic. But to be honest, I wasn’t too sure about Taylor. I thought that he just looked awkward, prowling around, acting like the prodigal son, and acting like a guitar god. He looked out of place, being three times the size of Richards and Wood combined, his playing was a bit shaky and he’s lost most of his fluidity. I thought his sound was just bad. I guess he used the Tweed Deluxe, and man it was brittle, spiky, too much treble. It just sounded nasty from where I was standing. By the way, on many occasions Richards tone also was sharp and trebly.

But I really enjoyed the show. It was a great night and I wouldn’t want to have missed it. It was entertaining, fun, a good night out. It isn’t earth shattering or groundbreaking, it’s just good, solid, professional latter day Stones.

Mathijs

Any pics???

is this the new iorr policy and standard? we need visual proof that we don't lie? oh, dear...i'm in a heap of trouble....

Imagine the trouble when he demands pix to prove that you were NOT there!

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and i swear i wasn't there! dammit!

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Bjorn
I dont agree AT ALL!!! Keith is finally sober and is really driving the band! Not posing - just playing - takin´care of business!!! Don´t know what Mathijs saw - but it sure isn´t THE WHOLE TRUTH!!! Not by far!

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Don´t know what Mathijs saw - but it sure isn´t THE WHOLE TRUTH!!! Not by far!

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Ps I did take out the really negative parts though.

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Good review Mathijs. You must have been a few feet away from me as I was in row A too but just left of dead centre.

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Bjorn
Ok...ok...sorry Mathijs...I know...we have different oppinions...I was pleasently surprised by the show...you maybe wasn´t...as much as me...And I´m fine with that, for god´s sake...I wish you a nice evening there in Holland! Take care!

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As such, I thought the review was honest and insightful.

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Bjorn
Well...I can play a bit or two myself...and I have a good ear...Thanks Mathijs...Always a pleasure...You´re the real deal, mate...A real gentleman...AND DONT ACT surprised - when people are all over you...I reached out my hand...you didn´t give a shit...

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As such, I thought the review was honest and insightful.

what???? he just said he lied and sugar-coated the review by leaving out the bad stuff! he's an insufferable and admitted public liar. please.

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As such, I thought the review was honest and insightful.

what???? he just said he lied and sugar-coated the review by leaving out the bad stuff! he's an insufferable and admitted public liar. please.

No suger coating, just leaving out the obvious. There's no use in rambling on about the fact that I don't like Chuck Leavel, that I don't think that Darryl is the righ bass player for the Stones. I have been stating that for years now, and its getting stale by now. Just be happy that the Stones are doing some great gigs, and stop moaning about all that's not right. It's been wrong for years, and its not going to change.

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As such, I thought the review was honest and insightful.

what???? he just said he lied and sugar-coated the review by leaving out the bad stuff! he's an insufferable and admitted public liar. please.

No suger coating, just leaving out the obvious. There's no use in rambling on about the fact that I don't like Chuck Leavel, that I don't think that Darryl is the righ bass player for the Stones. I have been stating that for years now, and its getting stale by now. Just be happy that the Stones are doing some great gigs, and stop moaning about all that's not right. It's been wrong for years, and its not going to change.

Mathijs

there's more bad stuff you left out and you know it. i demand a full confession. iorr will not rest until you offer full disclosure of displeasure.

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As such, I thought the review was honest and insightful.

what???? he just said he lied and sugar-coated the review by leaving out the bad stuff! he's an insufferable and admitted public liar. please.

No suger coating, just leaving out the obvious. There's no use in rambling on about the fact that I don't like Chuck Leavel, that I don't think that Darryl is the righ bass player for the Stones. I have been stating that for years now, and its getting stale by now. Just be happy that the Stones are doing some great gigs, and stop moaning about all that's not right. It's been wrong for years, and its not going to change.

Mathijs

there's more bad stuff you left out and you know it. i demand a full confession. iorr will not rest until you offer full disclosure of displeasure.

You are not in the position to demand.

Mathijs