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Doxa
A quick passing theory to the question I proposed above, why "Loving Cup" did not make LET IT BLEED.
There were so many 'big songs' (incl. longetivity, atmopshere, story) to choose from to make a single album reasonable. They took "Gimme Shelter", "Let It Bleed", "Midnight Rambler" and "You Can't Always Get What You Want" and put them to starting and finishing the sides. The rest songs were filling the sides with 'easier' songs to make the sides more breathing and easier to attach (and also giving enough room for the big ones to shine). "Loving Cup" was not such a 'filler'. I would think that the decision would have been most with it and "Let It Bleed", and I could easily see how "Loving Cup" could have fitted into that place in the album (a closer of A-side). But seemingly they invested more in "Let It Bleed", making it even album's title. But they originally planned to call it STICKY FINGERS...
If so, it could have been a nice replacement for You Got The Silver - but then again it's blasphemy to even be thinking in those terms...
(edit: now when I listened to that clip of Hyde Park version, I observed that there Mick introduces the song by saying that it will be released in their next album...)
- Doxa
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Doxa
A quick passing theory to the question I proposed above, why "Loving Cup" did not make LET IT BLEED.
There were so many 'big songs' (incl. longetivity, atmopshere, story) to choose from to make a single album reasonable. They took "Gimme Shelter", "Let It Bleed", "Midnight Rambler" and "You Can't Always Get What You Want" and put them to starting and finishing the sides. The rest songs were filling the sides with 'easier' songs to make the sides more breathing and easier to attach (and also giving enough room for the big ones to shine). "Loving Cup" was not such a 'filler'. I would think that the decision would have been most with it and "Let It Bleed", and I could easily see how "Loving Cup" could have fitted into that place in the album (a closer of A-side). But seemingly they invested more in "Let It Bleed", making it even album's title. But they originally planned to call it STICKY FINGERS...
(edit: now when I listened to that clip of Hyde Park version, I observed that there Mick introduces the song by saying that it will be released in their next album...)
- Doxa
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DandelionPowderman
- but then again it's blasphemy to even be thinking in those terms...
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Silver Dagger
I think the most expendable song on Let It Bleed - and again it's blasphemy to suggest - is Country Honk. It's a re-tread of an already released song so why do it in the first place? Loving Cup would have fitted in beautifully after Love In Vain. But how much stronger do you want Let It Bleed to be?
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I think the most expendable song on Let It Bleed - and again it's blasphemy to suggest - is Country Honk. It's a re-tread of an already released song so why do it in the first place? Loving Cup would have fitted in beautifully after Love In Vain. But how much stronger do you want Let It Bleed to be?
Funnily I can't think of "Loving Cup" fitting to STICKY FINGERS at all.
- Doxa
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His Majesty
Let it Bleed as an album is half great and half crap, including the raw 1969 Loving Cup would most definitely have improved it.
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His Majesty
Let it Bleed as an album is half great and half crap, including the raw 1969 Loving Cup would most definitely have improved it.
But but, Mick Taylor wasn't even playing in half of it!
- Doxa
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His Majesty
Let it Bleed as an album is half great and half crap, including the raw 1969 Loving Cup would most definitely have improved it.
But but, Mick Taylor wasn't even playing in half of it!
- Doxa
Being serious...
To give the album a more unified sound they mabe should have had Taylor overdub on to tracks which were already nearly completed and/or re-recorded some.
As it is, the great and crap song writing on Let It Bleed and the lack of a definite 3rd man makes it sound and feel odd.
Given the talent and ability they had in 1969 Let It Bleed as an album is strangley weak imo, the weakest album of the so called big four studio albums.
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His Majesty
Let it Bleed as an album is half great and half crap
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His Majesty
Let it Bleed as an album is half great and half crap
I don't do smileys normally, but this?
Gimme shelter: great
Love in Vain: great
Country Honk: alright, not as great as Honky Tonk Women
Live with me: great
Let it bleed: listen to Stu on piano, listen to Charlie, hell it's even got Bill on autoharp, so: great
Midnight rambler: great
You got the silver: first solo song by Keith, only this aspect makes it great
Monkey Man: great with capitals
You can't always get what you want, nothing but great.
So maybe about 11 % not so great, but otherwise nothing but greatness!
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His Majesty
Let it Bleed as an album is half great and half crap, including the raw 1969 Loving Cup would most definitely have improved it.
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His Majesty
Gimme Shelter takes up the majority of great on Let It Bleed. ><
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His Majesty
They take up the other percentage of great, but even combined are still lesser than Gimme Shelter. One cold argue that YGTS is better with Mick singing and that LIV and MR's definitive versions are live versions.