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tomcasagranda
I downloaded at 10:58 Hrs this morning - not a bother, and I live in Reading, Berkshire.
The only bother I had was getting up too early to watch/blink the Olympic torch.
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Doxa
But anyway, I have started lately to approciate the whole 1989/90 project a bit more. No, it will never satisfy my own aesthetic taste (they even looked terrible, espceially Mick's hair cut and forced pseudo-michaeljackson-movements), but I respect the drive to update the sound and to learn new tricks. The whole new "professionalism". It was their biggest since musical reinvention since 1969. Well, in order to rebuild the building, they needed to burn the old house down, I think they lost (for good) in the process something essential I love so much in their sound (and I never can love the new sound as I loved the old one). But like said, I appreciate the effort of re-inventing their act.
Good point, and I agree with you. As you say, their most drastic change since 1969. But they threw out the baby with the washing water. Some things might have needed to be change but they lost the spontaneity and the life of their live performances after this big change in delivering the music and the controlled "leadership" each and everyone had in each place of each song - and the safe forumla each song was builded up on.....it wasn't up to the guitarists to get a "drive" - something which gave them a kick when they succeeded in doing....in the 1969-1982 era, I mean
But in 1989/1990 we didn't know better, and thought that this new direction was something that could lift the last part of their career to something even better.
At least a lot of people and journalists thought so.
The only 89/90 songs I can listen to now, after 1993, is the songs that suit the "new" treatment, like Ruby Tuesday, Almost Hear You Sigh and Harlem Shuffle. Not many others, and surely not the "60s/70s rockers", like Brown Sugar, Happy, IORR etc etc. They just sound so forced and unreal.
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Tokyo 26.2.90 is the best show of that entire tour and one of their best latter day stadium concerts.
That's great to hear. The track listing looks great, including five numbers from STEEL WHEELS.
It also needs to say that it isn't the fault of 1989/90's tour's shows that they turned out to be the concept of all their latter days tours and shows, and a kind of prototype of 'Vegas' era. In 1989/90 they really were fresh and 'innovative' (Jagger's term) with the formula. Actually judging now -many tours 'wiser' - they were incredibly vital and working hard then to update their sound.
And yes, they still had THE bass player there...
- Doxa
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dcba
Big disappointment for me : the sound isn 't that good for an official release. It's as if they took the old "Steel Wheels Tokyo 1990" (VGP-080) boot and put it online.
The mix is off and messy (the guitars are undermixed) and the overall sound is muddy. Add some treble to the music (16K for you nerds) and you'll see the difference.
As for the music... well I found the VGP boot boring and lifeless when I got it some 15 years ago, and I haven't changed my mind.
Maybe the 89-90 shows are to be seen not heard, alas...
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Redhotcarpet
And that I get.
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marcovandereijk
So, Mick is good, Keith is good, Bill is good, Charlie, of course, is good and Ronnie is good.
The songs are good (how could they not be, it's The Stones).
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Rolling Hansie
They did 10 shows at the Tokyo Dome. Anyone knows which show(s) will be on this release ?
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marcovandereijk
A word about Midnight Rambler: it might take some time to get used to the piano work
by Chuck on this song, because we are used to the guitar fest, we've been treated with
in earlier shows, BUT, I am charmed quite a bit by the boogie Chuck is pulling out of his
hat here. Close your eyes and you have the feeling the good old Stu is looking over
Chucks shoulder.
(I never dreamed I'd write this).
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dcba
Big disappointment for me : the sound isn 't that good for an official release. It's as if they took the old "Steel Wheels Tokyo 1990" (VGP-080) boot and put it online.
The mix is off and messy (the guitars are undermixed) and the overall sound is muddy. Add some treble to the music (16K for you nerds) and you'll see the difference.
As for the music... well I found the VGP boot boring and lifeless when I got it some 15 years ago, and I haven't changed my mind.
Maybe the 89-90 shows are to be seen not heard, alas...
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marcovandereijk
A word about Midnight Rambler: it might take some time to get used to the piano work
by Chuck on this song, because we are used to the guitar fest, we've been treated with
in earlier shows, BUT, I am charmed quite a bit by the boogie Chuck is pulling out of his
hat here. Close your eyes and you have the feeling the good old Stu is looking over
Chucks shoulder.
(I never dreamed I'd write this).
you're in my will, now.
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More Hot Rocks
Ah YES!! The great comeback for The Stones. Better and stronger!!
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Redhotcarpet
And that I get.
glad to have your aboard, then. we shall rail against any upcoming vegas fare with might and fury.
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Redhotcarpet
And that I get.
glad to have your aboard, then. we shall rail against any upcoming vegas fare with might and fury.
No more Vegas please, I want TORONTO 1977!!
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RobertJohnson
Great disappointment, muddy sound, Ronnie too low in the mix, thin guitars, far worse than e.g. the Wembley concert (Seventh of July). Overall here we have the Rolling Stones Big Brass Band rehearsing some Stones titles ... the definitive low point of the official boot series; please, no more boots from the Big Band era.
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RobertJohnson
Great disappointment, muddy sound, Ronnie too low in the mix, thin guitars, far worse than e.g. the Wembley concert (Seventh of July). Overall here we have the Rolling Stones Big Brass Band rehearsing some Stones titles ... the definitive low point of the official boot series; please, no more boots from the Big Band era.
Don´t let a few songs with brass color your opinion.
There are no brass on SMU, Midnight Rambler, Ruby Tuesday, Almost Hear You Sigh etc.
Great show, although the guitars could have been mixed a bit more powerful. I´m not so sure Bob Clearmountain is doing any mixing at all - seemingly only mastering...
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midimannz
i agree - and it's too bad , I REALLY WANTED to like it - maybe the "Little Boy Blue" tapes would be better for this time of the year .........
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RobertJohnson
Great disappointment, muddy sound, Ronnie too low in the mix, thin guitars, far worse than e.g. the Wembley concert (Seventh of July). Overall here we have the Rolling Stones Big Brass Band rehearsing some Stones titles ... the definitive low point of the official boot series; please, no more boots from the Big Band era.
Don´t let a few songs with brass color your opinion.
There are no brass on SMU, Midnight Rambler, Ruby Tuesday, Almost Hear You Sigh etc.
Great show, although the guitars could have been mixed a bit more powerful. I´m not so sure Bob Clearmountain is doing any mixing at all - seemingly only mastering...
I think you're right, no new mix, it's the mastered radio programming with a shade of muddiness, it's a shame.