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Munichhilton
Yeah. I believe yours is seamless...but I don't understand why.
I downloaded both ways just to check. Testing it in TLH it says that 34 frames have been added to each track. Convert to Wav...fix sector boundary errors and fix N Sector by 'shift forward' and it still has pops. The only thing I haven't done is play it on iTunes as I don't have iTunes. Also interesting is this...in the Google Music player online where I purchased it, HTW is 2:43 and after download its 2:42...plus the gaps are bigger in their player
I don't know whats going on.
I have lost interest in trying to fix it anymore.
and now the positive note:
What a great mix!
I just listened to it on Google Music, and yeah there are gaps there. Maybe you should try using iTunes, maybe the reason mine has no gaps is because iTunes does that "gapless playback" thing or whatever. I don't know if that's why, but no gaps there when I listen. And it doesn't have them on the CD I burned with iTunes.
Excellent
That's the key....burn to CD with iTunes and then re-rip.
That's a good workaround, although a shame to have to do.
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donvis
THE WORST STONES TOUR EVER!!!!
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donvis
Get my facts straight? I was there in 1981, I saw it. Cherry pickers, lemon yellow tights, scarf tricks, crummy set list. If you think She's So Cold and Let Me Go weren't played at hyper speed then we aren't even on the same planet let alone page.
And as some one else mentioned,as good as the Some Girls tracks were live in 1978, they sounded lifeless and uninspired in 1981. THE WORST STONES TOUR EVER!!!!
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donvis
THE WORST STONES TOUR EVER!!!!
In your opinion.
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donvis
Get my facts straight? I was there in 1981, I saw it. Cherry pickers, lemon yellow tights, scarf tricks, crummy set list. If you think She's So Cold and Let Me Go weren't played at hyper speed then we aren't even on the same planet let alone page.
And as some one else mentioned,as good as the Some Girls tracks were live in 1978, they sounded lifeless and uninspired in 1981. THE WORST STONES TOUR EVER!!!!
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theimposter
I just listened to the majority of it. I am not a huge fan of the 81 tour, but this is good stuff. It's sloppy for sure, doesn't have the intensity of Some Girls in Ft. Worth, but it's got the elements in place. Just wish I could figure out how to put the damn thing on cd (wait til it comes on piratebay and put it in my iTunes I suppose?).
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donvis
I was disappointed by the set list. Where were the dark apocalyptic Stones songs that had a sense of menace? No Gimme Shelter, no Midnight Rambler (my favorite live song), no Sympathy For The Devil (which wasn't an overplayed warhorse at that point). The Some Girls songs wee uninspired. Neighbours, She's So Cold, and Let Me Go were played way too fast. I did enjoy Under My Thumb, Let's Spend The Night Together, Let It Bleed, Time Is On My Side, and Waiting on A Friend. But I would have preferred Chuck Berry covers over Twenty Flight Rock and Going To A Go Go. What was higher quality in terms of inspired performance, Brussels Affair, Some Girls Live in Texas, or Hampton 1981? I rest my case.
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I was disappointed by the set list. Where were the dark apocalyptic Stones songs that had a sense of menace? No Gimme Shelter, no Midnight Rambler (my favorite live song), no Sympathy For The Devil (which wasn't an overplayed warhorse at that point). The Some Girls songs wee uninspired. Neighbours, She's So Cold, and Let Me Go were played way too fast. I did enjoy Under My Thumb, Let's Spend The Night Together, Let It Bleed, Time Is On My Side, and Waiting on A Friend. But I would have preferred Chuck Berry covers over Twenty Flight Rock and Going To A Go Go. What was higher quality in terms of inspired performance, Brussels Affair, Some Girls Live in Texas, or Hampton 1981? I rest my case.
Tracks like GS and MR where done to death -played at every shows from '69 to '76. I think it is just great the Stones somehow reinvented themselves a bit, nodding back to the past while still remaining a musically important outfit with the new songs.
And if you ask me what was the highest inspired performance, I'd say Hampton 81 anytime. Musically, as a band, the Stones have never been any better. It is the culmination of 20 years Stones.
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NoCode0680
I've been a little surprised by some of the reaction here, but I understand it to some degree. Some people think that because they already have some old muddy bootleg of this, that's reason enough for this not to be released. Somebody else made a pretty good comment last night about how people think that this Archive Series should fill in the gaps in THEIR collection. To be honest, even if I had the bootleg I would have welcomed an actual release that sounds like a proper live album. I've been hoping for Back Strap Jacket, even though it's one of the few bootlegs I have.
The Archive Series is pay as you go. They didn't have you pay $40-$50 in advance and promise you something you'd never heard of then spring this on you. I can understand the anticipation, and wanting this or that. I have my own list of shows I wanted, and Hampton (or any '81 show) was not one of them. But for every bootleg they release there are going to be some people who wanted something else. I'm glad we're getting anything at all. If you didn't want this, or you think the bootleg you have is just as good, you don't have to buy it.
People have every right to gripe, and I'm not saying you shouldn't voice your opinion. But some people have come across like they have a severe sense of entitlement. Some people consider this release almost a personal insult. But if they weren't disappointing you they'd be disappointing somebody else. Even for all the people saying they want El Mocambo there are those saying that we already have El Mocambo tracks on Love You Live. There is just no way to please everybody with only 6 releases. That is unless you just accept the Archive Series as a nice little surprise that the Stones sprung on us a few months ago, and it is what it is.
The bottom line is, if you want it your way, go to Burger King.
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Dandelion Powderman
relax , we will be able to download it shortly..it's like Gazza and most certainly some others already said so, we will get it via Stones Archive within a day or 2 in flac, so no worries, we have been waiting for some 30years for this one to be released, so what would one or 2 days would do ...you'll get it..
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GOO
a 1999 show would be nice
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Dandelion Powderman
relax , we will be able to download it shortly..it's like Gazza and most certainly some others already said so, we will get it via Stones Archive within a day or 2 in flac, so no worries, we have been waiting for some 30years for this one to be released, so what would one or 2 days would do ...you'll get it..
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soulsurvivor1
1981? For me that was the absolute worst Rolling Stones ever. Sounds like the Stones on speed!
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1981? For me that was the absolute worst Rolling Stones ever. Sounds like the Stones on speed!
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Mathijs
And if you ask me what was the highest inspired performance, I'd say Hampton 81 anytime. Musically, as a band, the Stones have never been any better. It is the culmination of 20 years Stones.
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And if you ask me what was the highest inspired performance, I'd say Hampton 81 anytime. Musically, as a band, the Stones have never been any better. It is the culmination of 20 years Stones.
Mathijs
I wouldn't perhaps rank Hampton '81 so high (but surely among the very best ever), but I like that description of "culmination of 20 years". I think that somehow marks the nature of 1981/82 tour altogether. They had been a living and breathing, that is, evolving band, for two decades and somehow they let all that experience - been there, done that - to be heard in their sound then. Yeah, in some cases they do sound sloppy and everything, but I think that is a part of the charm. Like "look kids, we don't need to prove anything to anyone anymore. We play just the way we want to.". In a sense there is huge difference to 1978 tour that still had that feeling of "now we need to show all those new bands who are the real rock and rollers and energy bombs". In 1981 they needn't need to prove anything at all; they were the biggest rock and roll band in the world without any real competition. A positively retro-sounding TATTOO YOU and "Start mre Up" was a great soundtrack for all that. I think the result is very stressless, unique sounding music that I find majestic and powerful. That sound and attitude charmed me very much in the early 80's. It had some nostalgia (based on rock and roll history, being legends) flavor sure but is was a fascinating part of their then current sound.
I think the contrast in attitude (to be heard in sound) is huge to 1989 - and any tour ever since - when they need to prove that they are as good as ever (before) - that it is the "Best Stones yet", etc. The new "professionalism" somehow kicked the attitude and balls out of the band. And besides, it was not any longer culmination of anything - they were not any longer a living and a breathing band in the sense they earlier were. Now they were a nostagia act milking out the past, sounding sometimes almost like a Rolling Stones cover band.
To me eyes The Stones achieved something "this is as far as this can naturally go" in 1981. Since then - starting in 1989 - they had just tried to make some kind of nostalgia reconstructions of the achievements of those 20 yaers. It really starts a new page in their story with a very different tone in it.
- Doxa
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DandelionPowderman
WHY can't we download this in Europe by now???!