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lem motlow
it wasnt until the great alan passaro took down the little gun wielding meth head
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stanlove
I was looking at Altamonte on google and this thread came up.
I love what happened to angles and looked into this.
Can't wait for your documentary..
Do you think the guy glaring at Jagger on stage is Roberts?
thanks, stanlove - when you say "angles," do you mean angles of stories? or "Hells Angels"?
I believe the man on stage with short hair---who scrutinizes how close the freaking out man is getting to Mick, yanks him away from Mick, and firmly but gently lowers him off the stage [check it out - that's one very strong fellow]---to be Bob Roberts, president of the San Francisco Hells Angels MC.
- swiss
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lem motlow
the guy in the photo is indeed bob roberts.there are comments here saying he's looking at mick in disgust and also in some sort of gay way -you're either not paying attention to the movie or doing what psychologists call "projecting"-i will promise you one thing,you wouldnt have said it to his face.
it wasnt until the great alan passaro took down the little gun wielding meth head that things boiled over.
the reason that they never hurt the stones later is that sonny stayed pissed at them in public but privately they worked it out.i heard stories of sonny and jagger doing coke together in the backroom of a club in new york during the 1970's.
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lem motlow
ok,just give me the total size of the crowd-300,000...500,000.ok how many hells angels were there? maybe 100? 200?
and they were armed with...pool cues?? so they waded into and started beating the shit out of a crowd of half a million people armed only with cue sticks?? yeah, what a bunch of pussies.
and yeah,a guy who takes out a nutcase who pulls a gun in a crowd that large and could possibly shoot either another fan or one of the rolling stones...a guy who didnt hesitate to get in a gunfight carrying only a knife-and won,is pretty damn great.
and by the way-it came out in the trial that poor little maradeth or whatever the fck his name was began starting shit with the angels first.typical gangbanger who thought he was tougher than he was.
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Keef1966
The Ottawa Citizen (Canada)
October 26th 1970
The Gadsden Times (AL)
January 14th 1971
You can stop wasting time on the definition of great now... They proved Passaro didn't kill Hunter anyways.
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2000 LYFH
Didn't want any trouble, just grooving to the sounds...
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lem motlow
SWISS-could you keep us updated on your project either in this thread or another sometime in the future?
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lem motlow
this was a huge moment in the stones history and as you can see it still brings out strong feelings on both sides to this day,45 years after the incident.
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lem motlow
also,do we know for sure if it was bill fritsch who punched out the guy from the airplane?
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lem motlow
if so the stones weren't showing much solidarity with their fellow musician by posing for pictures with the guy backstage-that photo just adds to the crazy.
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lem motlow
and could someone find and print keiths take on the whole thing from the 1971 interview in rolling stone magazine,its still pretty fresh in his mind at that point -i have a copy of it and cant seem to find it anywhere.
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stonesrule
Having grown up in Los Angeles and frequently visiting friends in San Francisco, I met a number of Hell's Angels including Sonny Barger..also knew several of the Manson "family" before they murdered some very good people at Terry Melcher's old house
Perhaps some of you find these characters intriguing but I never did...don't now.
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stonesrule
Having grown up in Los Angeles and frequently visiting friends in San Francisco, I met a number of Hell's Angels including Sonny Barger..also knew several of the Manson "family" before they murdered some very good people at Terry Melcher's old house
Perhaps some of you find these characters intriguing but I never did...don't now.
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vudicus
Regarding the guy who knocked Marty Balin out.
If you watch the onstage fight during the Airplanes performance, it looks like Balin is knocked to the floor (near the drun kit) and one of the Angels hits downwards with his pool cue several times, possibly jabbing Marty with it.
I've often wondered if Marty went and confronted that guy when he jumps into the crowd below and maybe got knocked out then.
Also, just before Marty goes into the crowd, you see him throw his tambourine into the area where there is fighting. Maybe the tambourine hit an angel and he took revenge.
Just more speculation but there you go.
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swiss
albert Maysles (who, along with brother David, as you know, directed and produced Gimme Shelter) and I
spoke for 4.5 hours at his place in New York about all the above. He is in complete agreement this needs to be
re-visited and I'm the one to do it, and he'll help however he can
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swiss
unless Bill Fritsch has the ability to be in 2 places at once...since he was sitting on the side of the stage...it would not appear that it was he who knocked out Marty Balin
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DiscoVolante
You know who. He's standing on stage during Under My Thumb, chewing his mouth with anger. He's furious, ready to kill someone. I don't think I've ever seen an angry face like that. Jagger's looking really frightened. Why is he so angry? The camera doesn't take focus off him for several minutes. Did he get his motor cykel destroyed? The camera never tells.
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stonesrule
Having grown up in Los Angeles and frequently visiting friends in San Francisco, I met a number of Hell's Angels including Sonny Barger..also knew several of the Manson "family" before they murdered some very good people at Terry Melcher's old house
Perhaps some of you find these characters intriguing but I never did...don't now.
Out of curiosity, which members of the "family" did you know.
Feel free to share any recollections about them.
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swiss
albert Maysles (who, along with brother David, as you know, directed and produced Gimme Shelter) and I spoke for 4.5 hours at his place in New York about all the above. He is in complete agreement this needs to be
re-visited and I'm the one to do it, and he'll help however he can
thats the key really-can you get your hands on that extra footage that they have?
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swiss
unless Bill Fritsch has the ability to be in 2 places at once...since he was sitting on the side of the stage...it would not appear that it was he who knocked out Marty Balin
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lem motlow
i'm not sure punching a member of the jefferson airplane is really a bad thing,after what they morphed into in the 1980's i think the whole band deserved the wack-a-mole treatment.
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lem motlow
do you know bill fritsch? is he still around? i met chuck zito a few years ago and he was doing some movie and had mickey rourke with him,bill seemed to be like an early version of chuck- he was in the angels but he hung out with actors,musicians and artists alot.
i've heard bill was friends with janis joplin and alot of those san fran people, which as you said,brings a whole other dimension to the onstage thing between paul kantner and him.
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lem motlow
keep that name altamont 360 no matter what-its perfect.you start talking about one aspect of this and it takes off in every direction-
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lem motlow
the great alan passaro died in 1985 and still nobody is sure exactly what happened to him-he was found floating in a river with $10,000 on him and his black bmw was sitting with the keys still in it.call me crazy but i think the boy may have been doing something that didnt involve a church group.but there you go,another sub-plot.
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lem motlow
its also great that you're talking with tony funches.i never even knew big tony was there,i thought he was with jim morrison at the time...