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marvpeck
OK, well I have a different twist on this.
We've always asked would you go see the Stones without ...blank.
How about they leave Mick at home, hire a singer,
play theatres as a thank you to their fans,
and then call it a day.
I'd go see that.
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marvpeck
OK, well I have a different twist on this.
We've always asked would you go see the Stones without ...blank.
How about they leave Mick at home, hire a singer,
play theatres as a thank you to their fans,
and then call it a day.
I'd go see that.
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marvpeck
OK, well I have a different twist on this.
We've always asked would you go see the Stones without ...blank.
How about they leave Mick at home, hire a singer,
play theatres as a thank you to their fans,
and then call it a day.
I'd go see that.
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marvpeck
OK, well I have a different twist on this.
We've always asked would you go see the Stones without ...blank.
How about they leave Mick at home, hire a singer,
play theatres as a thank you to their fans,
and then call it a day.
I'd go see that.
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dcba
It's a schedule problem : can you launch SH in Sept.2011, promote the album all over the world, then record a Stones album and launch a world tour, all this within 12 months? No!
Yes. Easily. The promotional work for SH will be done and dusted in a couple of weeks. Most of it has been done already.
Take a quick trip back and check the timeframe between Jagger's previous solo ventures and the Stones tour that followed.
Besides, who says the Stones have to even RECORD a new album if they're going to tour? THAT part of the scenario is somewhat unlikely.
There is absolutely no schedule conflict between SuperHeavy and what the Rolling Stones will or won't do.
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pgarof
what harm has been done except upsetting a few of the older iorr members.
OK, serious now. I do consider myself as one of the older members. And no harm is done indeed. And no, you didn't upset me. But I do find it very annoying when I open a "new" thread with an interesting subject, only to find out that it is not new, but something that has already been posted before in several other threads. So, please ...
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Sam Spade
I would assume with all the Spiderman issues Cohl had, he'd welcome a 50th Anniversary tour.
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pgarof
OK, I'll keep all information sent to me to myself from now on, that should keep everyone happy.
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dcba
It's a schedule problem : can you launch SH in Sept.2011, promote the album all over the world, then record a Stones album and launch a world tour, all this within 12 months? No!
Yes. Easily. The promotional work for SH will be done and dusted in a couple of weeks. Most of it has been done already.
Take a quick trip back and check the timeframe between Jagger's previous solo ventures and the Stones tour that followed.
Besides, who says the Stones have to even RECORD a new album if they're going to tour? THAT part of the scenario is somewhat unlikely.
There is absolutely no schedule conflict between SuperHeavy and what the Rolling Stones will or won't do.
Gazza
1. Am I wrong or has Mick already stated there were no plans for a SH tour?
2. I doubt they will record new material for their 50th.
3. I would assume with all the Spiderman issues Cohl had, he'd welcome a 50th Anniversary tour.
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dcba
It's a schedule problem : can you launch SH in Sept.2011, promote the album all over the world, then record a Stones album and launch a world tour, all this within 12 months? No!
Yes. Easily. The promotional work for SH will be done and dusted in a couple of weeks. Most of it has been done already.
Take a quick trip back and check the timeframe between Jagger's previous solo ventures and the Stones tour that followed.
Besides, who says the Stones have to even RECORD a new album if they're going to tour? THAT part of the scenario is somewhat unlikely.
There is absolutely no schedule conflict between SuperHeavy and what the Rolling Stones will or won't do.
Gazza
1. Am I wrong or has Mick already stated there were no plans for a SH tour?
2. I doubt they will record new material for their 50th.
3. I would assume with all the Spiderman issues Cohl had, he'd welcome a 50th Anniversary tour.
1. Correct. There never were plans,either.
2. I would guess they might do some songs for another hits album, but I wouldnt bet on a full-length CD.
3. Cohl may not be involved with a future Rolling Stones tour.
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mtaylor
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This answer Jagger doesn't have to think about. "Don't hold your breath," he says softly. (The ice may be breaking – in early September the band was photographed leaving a meeting in London.)
Instead, he says, moving his chair out of the path of the sunlight streaming into the window of his hotel suite in Los Angeles, he's found himself "writing loads of these 12-bar blues songs, so I'm looking forward to doing something more in that vein."
There is still hope: writing blues songs - definately not for SH.
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Gazza
Wouldn't a promoter have to approach them first about a tour?
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pgarof
what harm has been done except upsetting a few of the older iorr members.
OK, serious now. I do consider myself as one of the older members. And no harm is done indeed. And no, you didn't upset me. But I do find it very annoying when I open a "new" thread with an interesting subject, only to find out that it is not new, but something that has already been posted before in several other threads. So, please ...
OK, I'll keep all information sent to me to myself from now on, that should keep everyone happy.
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Gazza
Wouldn't a promoter have to approach them first about a tour?
not necessarily - after all, they're hiring the promoter. Not the other way round. It would be up to potential promoters to tender bids.
The Stones issued a statement earlier this year which confirmed that Cohl is no longer their representative or tour promoter as part of the (still pending) lawsuit between Cohl and Live Nation when both parties were reported as bidding on a Stones tour.
In light of recent reports surrounding the 'Breach of Contract' Court Case in America between Live Nation Entertainment and former Live Nation chairman Michael Cohl, The Rolling Stones wish to clarify their position regarding representation and touring," the statement reads. "Following the end of the 2007 'A Bigger Bang' world tour, The Rolling Stones became free from any contractual arrangements or agreements with Michael Cohl. He is neither their representative nor their tour promoter. Also the Stones confirmed today they have no firm plans to tour at this time." - Billboard
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Gazza
Wouldn't a promoter have to approach them first about a tour?
not necessarily - after all, they're hiring the promoter. Not the other way round. It would be up to potential promoters to tender bids.
The Stones issued a statement earlier this year which confirmed that Cohl is no longer their representative or tour promoter as part of the (still pending) lawsuit between Cohl and Live Nation when both parties were reported as bidding on a Stones tour.
In light of recent reports surrounding the 'Breach of Contract' Court Case in America between Live Nation Entertainment and former Live Nation chairman Michael Cohl, The Rolling Stones wish to clarify their position regarding representation and touring," the statement reads. "Following the end of the 2007 'A Bigger Bang' world tour, The Rolling Stones became free from any contractual arrangements or agreements with Michael Cohl. He is neither their representative nor their tour promoter. Also the Stones confirmed today they have no firm plans to tour at this time." - Billboard
Gazza
Yes, I remember that statement issued by the band but doesn't that mean they fulfilled their obligation to Cohl at the conclusion of the ABB tour? I mean, was he under retainer to the Stones, much like a Corporation keeps lawyers on retainer? Furthermore, doesn't Cohl have a new Company meaning both Live Nation and Cohl are free agents bidding on the opportunity to promote a 50th Anniversary tour. I know, I'm ignorant on the "inns and outs" of the Concert business.
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pgarof
what harm has been done except upsetting a few of the older iorr members.
OK, serious now. I do consider myself as one of the older members. And no harm is done indeed. And no, you didn't upset me. But I do find it very annoying when I open a "new" thread with an interesting subject, only to find out that it is not new, but something that has already been posted before in several other threads. So, please ...
OK, I'll keep all information sent to me to myself from now on, that should keep everyone happy.
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Gazza
Wouldn't a promoter have to approach them first about a tour?
not necessarily - after all, they're hiring the promoter. Not the other way round. It would be up to potential promoters to tender bids.
The Stones issued a statement earlier this year which confirmed that Cohl is no longer their representative or tour promoter as part of the (still pending) lawsuit between Cohl and Live Nation when both parties were reported as bidding on a Stones tour.
In light of recent reports surrounding the 'Breach of Contract' Court Case in America between Live Nation Entertainment and former Live Nation chairman Michael Cohl, The Rolling Stones wish to clarify their position regarding representation and touring," the statement reads. "Following the end of the 2007 'A Bigger Bang' world tour, The Rolling Stones became free from any contractual arrangements or agreements with Michael Cohl. He is neither their representative nor their tour promoter. Also the Stones confirmed today they have no firm plans to tour at this time." - Billboard
Gazza
Yes, I remember that statement issued by the band but doesn't that mean they fulfilled their obligation to Cohl at the conclusion of the ABB tour? I mean, was he under retainer to the Stones, much like a Corporation keeps lawyers on retainer? Furthermore, doesn't Cohl have a new Company meaning both Live Nation and Cohl are free agents bidding on the opportunity to promote a 50th Anniversary tour. I know, I'm ignorant on the "inns and outs" of the Concert business.
I think that statement was more a case of them distancing themselves from him and waiting to see what happens when the dust settles in this case. I doubt he's still on a 'retainer' when they dont work for years on end. Its no longer a case where he's simply the biggest player, what with Live Nation and AEG emerging as major rivals in recent years.
The bottom line is that the Stones will have no qualms about going with whoever provides them with the best deal financially, regardless of what history they may have with a potential promoter. They had no qualms about dumping Bill Graham, and they'll think nothing of doing the same to Cohl. I think even the fact that they changed the company who ran their official website (the previous Ultrastar site was run by Cohl's son Jake) would suggest that he's unlikely to have much if any involvement on a future tour, but you never know, I suppose.