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Re: Track Talk: Hot Stuff
Posted by: Hairball ()
Date: July 12, 2023 23:37

I always loved the studio version...especially when it's loud on a good stereo....very loud.
Never cared much for most live versions I've heard - none compare or come close to the original imo.

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Re: Hot Stuff - the best live version?
Posted by: doitywoik ()
Date: July 13, 2023 06:59

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That's a great version, really dig the horns!

Re: Track Talk: Hot Stuff
Posted by: rollingrichard ()
Date: July 13, 2023 09:16

For songs like Hot Stuff, and many other particular Stones songs, I have to be in the right mood, to really get me out of my head.But then they hit me 100 %.

Exept, for Rocks Off and Tumblin Dice, I'm always in the right mood for these 2 smoking smiley

Re: Track Talk: Hot Stuff
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: July 13, 2023 09:26

Sara loves Hot Stuff .....
Makes her dance like a crazy gal .......



ROCKMAN

Re: Track Talk: Hot Stuff
Posted by: Big Al ()
Date: July 13, 2023 11:04

I've always been a little lukewarm towards Hot Stuff. I know it's - at least! - a very good song, but there's something holding me back from really loving it. I do like the chorus and the guitar-work is very impressive. I chalk my, somewhat, indifference down to this era not being my favourite of the Stones' phases.

Re: Track Talk: Hot Stuff
Posted by: Nikkei ()
Date: July 13, 2023 11:43

I like it but I don't think it's really a song

Re: Track Talk: Hot Stuff
Posted by: bitusa2012 ()
Date: July 13, 2023 13:41

It’s just ok. SOUNDS wonderful on Black & Blue, the best sounding Stones record by quite a distance. But it never really goes anywhere.

El Mocambo is a great version of a good song.

Rod

Re: Track Talk: Hot Stuff
Posted by: Big Al ()
Date: July 13, 2023 13:45

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bitusa2012
It’s just ok. SOUNDS wonderful on Black & Blue, the best sounding Stones record by quite a distance. But it never really goes anywhere.

El Mocambo is a great version of a good song.

Now that, I can get behind, definitely. Black & Blue certainly has a terrific sound. However, unlike their other truly superb-sounding record, Tattoo You, the former is lacking the songs to back-up the magnificent production. For me, anyway.

Re: Track Talk: Hot Stuff
Posted by: Elmo Lewis ()
Date: July 13, 2023 13:55

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Hairball
I always loved the studio version...especially when it's loud on a good stereo....very loud.
Never cared much for most live versions I've heard - none compare or come close to the original imo.

I agree 100%

Re: Track Talk: Hot Stuff
Posted by: Pietro ()
Date: July 18, 2023 02:03

When "Hot Stuff" came out in 1976, a lot of people said it showed the Stones were through. Disco was already three or four years old by then. Why were the Stones playing this old-hat music?

I think it's the weakest song on "Black and Blue," weaker even than "Crazy Mama."

Re: Track Talk: Hot Stuff
Posted by: doitywoik ()
Date: July 18, 2023 04:02

I found Hot Stuff rather boring when the album came out, the song never really takes off (despite the nobel-prize-worthy lyrics). Hasn't changed much since.

Re: Track Talk: Hot Stuff
Posted by: Mathijs ()
Date: July 19, 2023 17:36

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doitywoik
I found Hot Stuff rather boring when the album came out, the song never really takes off (despite the nobel-prize-worthy lyrics). Hasn't changed much since.

The song takes off with a big bass drum at 0:03 minutes.

Mathijs

Re: Track Talk: Hot Stuff
Posted by: Mathijs ()
Date: July 19, 2023 17:45

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Pietro
When "Hot Stuff" came out in 1976, a lot of people said it showed the Stones were through. Disco was already three or four years old by then. Why were the Stones playing this old-hat music?

The first real disco song is from 1973, and the popularity was at its highest between 1977 and mid 1979.

The Stones recorded Hott Stuff in March 1975, so they were quite on time.

An uncle of mine was a police officer in Amsterdam in the summer of 1976 -he says there wasn't a bar, club or coffeeshop that wasn't blasting the track.

Mathijs

Re: Track Talk: Hot Stuff
Posted by: HardRiffin ()
Date: February 17, 2025 08:46

Guitar cover (Harvey Mandel and Richards):
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Re: Track Talk: Hot Stuff
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: February 18, 2025 02:01

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Big Al
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bitusa2012
It’s just ok. SOUNDS wonderful on Black & Blue, the best sounding Stones record by quite a distance. But it never really goes anywhere.

El Mocambo is a great version of a good song.

Now that, I can get behind, definitely. Black & Blue certainly has a terrific sound. However, unlike their other truly superb-sounding record, Tattoo You, the former is lacking the songs to back-up the magnificent production. For me, anyway.

Make a playlist with the BLACK AND BLUE songs from TATTOO YOU (have done similar for EMOTIONAL RESCUE) and it's very interesting to put it in the original context intended. Hot Stuff is fantastic on the album and doesn't really work - it works better than some other tunes in general, like She Was Hot, Sway, Neighbours - live. The edit (Side A single edit from the 1976 promo is on SUCKING IN THE SEVENTIES, there's another promo version that's a little bit shorter otherwise all versions of Hot Stuff as a B-side are the LP version) is a good edit and makes the LP version that much better.

Re: Track Talk: Hot Stuff
Date: February 18, 2025 13:41

The Stones' talent for sniffing out what's brewing in the market is outstanding, and this song is yet another proof of it.

Re: Track Talk: Hot Stuff
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: February 18, 2025 20:29

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emotionalbarbecue
The Stones' talent for sniffing out what's brewing in the market is outstanding, and this song is yet another proof of it.

Whoa. In the 1970s they were. Hot Stuff was indeed tapped into the vein. In the 1990s they were so late it didn't matter anymore and it didn't really sound like they did anything.

Point in case: Saint Of Me, which is a pretty good production, is a bunch of looped Charlie recordings. Listen to any live versions - does it sound any different? Aside from the obvious fact that it's live, the LP versions doesn't sound Dust Brothered in comparison. It's almost that they did too good of a job of copying and pasting.

Anybody Seen My Baby is brilliant, with Charlie playing simple and extra bits added in, a lot going on. Difficult to really tell what the Dust Brothers did though other than add some drum samples but I don't think they were there to make the album sound like it was being played in a bomb bunker. Charlie plays the entire track. Live it was horrendous.

Might As Well Get Juiced is not anywhere near Beck's Where It's At or Loser etc it's rather aimless but it is the most Dust Brothered track on the album. Which apparently, well...

He asked us if we could come down to New York to meet with him. We sat down with him and talked for about 20 minutes, just philosophically, about music in general. Then Mick said, Oh, this is all nonsense. Let me just play you some stuff. He'd really done his homework. The first songs he'd chosen to play for us were right up our alley. The demos sounded like we'd already worked on them. They were very funky, with these very dusty, old-sounding drum tracks.
- Mike Simpson (of the Dust Brothers), 1997


The Stones should've gotten Tom Rothrock involved. What he did with RL Burnside's COME ON IN is astounding - and that was after BRIDGES!




Re: Track Talk: Hot Stuff
Posted by: loog droog ()
Date: February 19, 2025 01:26

I just wish that the Stones had released "Hot Stuff" in 1975 as a single (and a new track for Made In The Shade) during the '75 tour.

Maybe with "Worried About You" as the B-side?

It would have put them way ahead of the curve in terms of dance/disco music.

Re: Track Talk: Hot Stuff
Posted by: Doxa ()
Date: February 19, 2025 14:28

Hmm.. "Hot Stuff" is a dance track, but I don't see it that much as a 'disco song', but more like a lazy funk groove (still trendy for sure at the time). "Miss You" was disco - and actually leading the movement of 'rock acts doing disco', followed by "Heart of Glass", "I Was Made Lovin For You Baby", "Da Ya Think I'm Sexy", etc.

Four on the beat, people!

- Doxa



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