Mick is schmoozing in Hollywood and appearing at the Grammy's...sounds like he's about to revive his solo career to me.

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Hairball
Mick is schmoozing in Hollywood and appearing at the Grammy's...sounds like he's about to revive his solo career to me.

REvive? when was it vived?

I didn't find out for ages about Mick and Anita, but I smelled it. Mostly from Mick, who didn't give any sign of it, which is why I smelled it. The old lady comes back at night complaining about the set and about Donald and blah blah blah. But at the same time, I know the old lady, and the odd time she didn't come home at night, I'd go round somewhere and see another girlfriend.
I never expected anything from Anita. I mean, hey, I'd stolen her from Brian. So you've had Mick now; what do you fancy, that or this? It was like Peyton Place back then, a lot of wife swapping or girlfriend swapping and... oh, you had to have him, OK. What do you expect? You've got an old lady like Anita Pallenberg and expect other guys not to hit on her? I heard rumors, and I thought, if she's going to be making a move with Mick, good luck to him; he can only take that one once. I've got to live with it. Anita's a piece of work. She probably nearly broke his back!
I'm not that jealous kind of guy. I knew where Anita had been before, and where she'd been before that with Mario Schifano, who was a successful painter. And with this other guy who was an art dealer in New York. I didn't expect to put any reins on her. It probably put a bigger gap between me and Mick than anything else, but mainly on Mick's part, not mine. And probably forever.
I gave no reaction at all to Mick about Anita. And decided to see how things would pan out from there. It wasn't the first time we'd been in competition for a bird, even for a night on the road. Who's going to get that one? Who's Tarzan round here? It was like two alphas fighting. Still is, quite honestly. But it's hardly the basis for a good relationship, right? I could have given Anita shit for it, but what was the point? We were together. I was on the road. By then I was so cynical about that stuff. I mean, if I'd stolen her off Brian, I didn't expect Mick not to knock her off, under the direction of Donald Cammell. I doubt whether it would have happened without Cammell. But, you know, while you were doing that, I was knocking Marianne, man. While you're missing it, I'm kissing it. In fact, I had to leave the premises rather abruptly when the cat came back. Hey, it was our only time, hot and sweaty. We were just there in, as Mick calls it in "Let Me Down Slow," the afterglow, my head nestled between those two beautiful jugs. And we heard his car drive up, and there was a big flurry, and I did one out the window, got my shoes, out the window through the garden, and I realized I'd left my socks. Well, he's not the sort of guy to look for socks. Marianne and I still have this joke. She sends me messages: "I still can't find your socks."
Anita's a gambler. But a gambler sometimes makes the wrong bets. The idea of status quo to Anita, in those days, was verboten. Everything must change. And we're not married, we're free, whatever. You're free as long as you let me know what's going on. Anyway, she had no fun with the tiny todger. I know he's got an enormous pair of balls, but it doesn't quite fill the gap, does it? It didn't surprise me. In a way I kind of expected it. That's why I was sitting in Robert Fraser's flat, writing, "I feel the storm is threatening my very life today." He had rented us his flat while Anita was shooting the movie, but in the end he never moved out, so when Anita went to work, I stayed there with Strawberry Bob and Mohammed, who were probably the first people I played it to. "War, children, it's just a shot away..."
- This commenet is like Keith;s singing - mix of emotion and infimity. But tour is only question of money. Who smart in Stones position would go arenas and stadiums.

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Hairball
Mick is schmoozing in Hollywood and appearing at the Grammy's...sounds like he's about to revive his solo career to me.

HE's 67. I don't think their will be a big demand for it. He's always schmoozing with celebs.

"It's just some friends of mine and they're busting down the door"

No,not me.A stupid fantasy story.If Mick,Keith and Charlie wanna tour they will.Money comes first,the music second,and living a life of luxury while touring comes third.Nothing much else matters, including their loyal fans when it comes to planning a tour.I hate to say it,but The Stones don't treat their loyal fans very well.

Maybe it's an excuse to wait another year. Seems they have no ambition to tour. If they did we would have seen some solo activity by now. Hate to say it but maybe there will be no more tours at all. Hope I'm wrong.

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Maybe it's an excuse to wait another year. Seems they have no ambition to tour. If they did we would have seen some solo activity by now. Hate to say it but maybe there will be no more tours at all. Hope I'm wrong.

Well, Charlie & Ronnie have been out there playing, and Keith talks about playing...

Must have because Mick has gone into hiding by performing live in front of millions at the Grammys this coming Sunday! Silly!

The whole "todger thing" will only make sense when Mick announces he is going to pose nude for Playgirl Magazine! Trust me, Mick is very well endowed.

At first hear, one can think that's it, Mick is done with Keith. The bigger picture
sets in...the money, the fun of a tour they can design on their own terms, the glory, and it is simply them needing or wanting to do what they do. When I think of the dynamic between them, the slurs recede, whats left may not be love but enough to be on stage together. I really think the biggest problem is Keith's arthritis, and from Micks mo, his silence on these issues is very effective.

It's not just the todger comment. Keith is negative towards Mick throughout the whole book. Their is a mention towards the end when Keith is talking about a bird he had that was making a lot of noise. He said the sauawking nosie it made reminded him of Mick. It was completely unncessary and totally out of nowhere. Just one more cheap shot to clsoe out the book. It probably doesn't have anything to do with the not touring. But just another low class moment in Life.

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It's not just the todger comment. Keith is negative towards Mick throughout the whole book. Their is a mention towards the end when Keith is talking about a bird he had that was making a lot of noise. He said the sauawking nosie it made reminded him of Mick. It was completely unncessary and totally out of nowhere. Just one more cheap shot to clsoe out the book. It probably doesn't have anything to do with the not touring. But just another low class moment in Life.

Yes indeed .

well its sad that at the end of their run comes this comment, and a shame that Keith doesn't care.

the kind of insult that is petty but way out of proportion to their long relationship, yet it's given undue attention. I really doubt that Mick cares much about Keith's remarks.

I look forward to a Jagger memoir, it'll happen

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The Sicilian
Just more gossip to build tension. It's called the politics of Cohl. He is creating this mirage to sell sponsor investment. Of course that will mean greater demand, higher venue revenue. Don't be surprised if the potential sponsors are bulking at the initial investment figures. They want a return on their investment. I wouldn't lose a wink of sleep over it. It will happen when the all the dollar signs align properly.

Rumour has it that all of this publicity has started a bidding war for sponsorship of the next tour. Apparently it is down to two companies: 1. Trojan, who are releasing a new, extra small condom later this year, and 2. extenderman, who's newest penis enlarger is about to come to market. Should be an interesting fight to see who gets the coveted sponsorship. Apparently Viagra and Ciallis have dropped out of the running for the tour.

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The Sicilian
Just more gossip to build tension. It's called the politics of Cohl. He is creating this mirage to sell sponsor investment. Of course that will mean greater demand, higher venue revenue. Don't be surprised if the potential sponsors are bulking at the initial investment figures. They want a return on their investment. I wouldn't lose a wink of sleep over it. It will happen when the all the dollar signs align properly.

There may be some bad feelings over things, but they know what is at stake. The marketing machine is just warming up.

You are one smart fellow.

hello fans,
keith had to talk aout mick other wise the book would not be the best seller,what thing to write about your best friend,keith is bitter and jealous of jagger,NO JAGGER NO STONES,JAGGER IS THE BEST.

No. Maybe Michael Cohl is just not ready for it as long as Spiderman hasn't learnt to fly on his own?

A new record & tour in 2012 is far better for plenty of commercial reasons...all other speculations are without importance...this year will strengthen their position in the pop world with some well selected compilations... before the big year...Just hoping they will be in good health next year.This is the ONLY risk !!

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James Kirk
Anybody who thinks that Mick Jagger is going to turn his back on a $500 million payday because Keith Richards claimed he had a "tiny todger" is out of their mind.

Richards has said foolish stuff like this before. As a matter of fact he said the same exact thing several years ago and nobody made a big deal out of it.

I get the feeling that while Richards annoys Jagger with nonsense like this, Jagger just brushes it off and moves the band in whatever direction he sees fit these days.

The Stones will roll in 2012 because it makes the most business sense.

1/ The World economy is finally starting to return to "normal" Jagger will have much more luck with selling $450 seats when the Dow Jones is sitting around 13-14k than he would have had over the last three years. This is by far the biggest factor in the Stones waiting to hit the road.

2/ The 50th anniversary date is only ten months away. What a better way to kind of have a farewell tour w/out having to say it. People will feel this will truly be the final time to see these R+R gods and tickets and t-shirts will go fast...Jagger's ego will never allow him to say they are too old. Thus, this will not be billed as a final tour, but it will be the last BIG one.

3/ Highly visible dates like the Olympics make 2012 far more inviting.

4/ They need time to record a proper Stones album. With all the down time from "A Bigger Bang" and no solo music I'm betting Jagger has some really good stuff ready to go. I also think they may delve into the vaults like they did for the Exile re-issue. Richards has mentioned this approach several times in recent interviews.

If they bring in a producer like Jack White to work on a new Stones cd, 2012 could be the biggest Stones year since Steel Wheels in 1989. Mick's "tiny todger" will not get in the way of any of this.

Exactly, Mr. Kirk. Absolutely every point you make is accurate. The Stones will tour behind a new album in 2012...and perhaps kick it all off by opening the Olympics.

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James Kirk
Anybody who thinks that Mick Jagger is going to turn his back on a $500 million payday because Keith Richards claimed he had a "tiny todger" is out of their mind.

Richards has said foolish stuff like this before. As a matter of fact he said the same exact thing several years ago and nobody made a big deal out of it.

I get the feeling that while Richards annoys Jagger with nonsense like this, Jagger just brushes it off and moves the band in whatever direction he sees fit these days.

The Stones will roll in 2012 because it makes the most business sense.

1/ The World economy is finally starting to return to "normal" Jagger will have much more luck with selling $450 seats when the Dow Jones is sitting around 13-14k than he would have had over the last three years. This is by far the biggest factor in the Stones waiting to hit the road.

2/ The 50th anniversary date is only ten months away. What a better way to kind of have a farewell tour w/out having to say it. People will feel this will truly be the final time to see these R+R gods and tickets and t-shirts will go fast...Jagger's ego will never allow him to say they are too old. Thus, this will not be billed as a final tour, but it will be the last BIG one.

3/ Highly visible dates like the Olympics make 2012 far more inviting.

4/ They need time to record a proper Stones album. With all the down time from "A Bigger Bang" and no solo music I'm betting Jagger has some really good stuff ready to go. I also think they may delve into the vaults like they did for the Exile re-issue. Richards has mentioned this approach several times in recent interviews.

If they bring in a producer like Jack White to work on a new Stones cd, 2012 could be the biggest Stones year since Steel Wheels in 1989. Mick's "tiny todger" will not get in the way of any of this.

Exactly, Mr. Kirk. Absolutely every point you make is accurate. The Stones will tour behind a new album in 2012...and perhaps kick it all off by opening the Olympics.

Absolutely, and Todgergate will be long forgotten!

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Hairball
Mick is schmoozing in Hollywood and appearing at the Grammy's...sounds like he's about to revive his solo career to me.

REvive? when was it vived?

When he was being bossed around by a she? No, that was bloody awful. Perhaps it was the "duet" with Whacko? Nah, a bit too 'flavour of the month'. The awful clothes he wore at Live Aid? Miami Vice was still big then.

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Hairball
Mick is schmoozing in Hollywood and appearing at the Grammy's...sounds like he's about to revive his solo career to me.

REvive? when was it vived?

When he was being bossed around by a she? No, that was bloody awful. Perhaps it was the "duet" with Whacko? Nah, a bit too 'flavour of the month'. The awful clothes he wore at Live Aid? Miami Vice was still big then.

there's never been any vive in mick's solo career, i think it's safe to say....so until there is there can be no re-vive....or something....

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Hairball
Mick is schmoozing in Hollywood and appearing at the Grammy's...sounds like he's about to revive his solo career to me.

REvive? when was it vived?

When he was being bossed around by a she? No, that was bloody awful. Perhaps it was the "duet" with Whacko? Nah, a bit too 'flavour of the month'. The awful clothes he wore at Live Aid? Miami Vice was still big then.

there's never been any vive in mick's solo career, i think it's safe to say....so until there is there can be no re-vive....or something....

'Wandering Spirit' is as good as any post-Tattoo You Stones album (far more inspired than most of the Stones-by-numbers 'Voodoo Lounge' imo). I still believe that Mick is capable of a successful solo career as long as he doesn't try too hard to be contemporary, which was the big problem with his other 3 albums.

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Hairball
Mick is schmoozing in Hollywood and appearing at the Grammy's...sounds like he's about to revive his solo career to me.

REvive? when was it vived?

When he was being bossed around by a she? No, that was bloody awful. Perhaps it was the "duet" with Whacko? Nah, a bit too 'flavour of the month'. The awful clothes he wore at Live Aid? Miami Vice was still big then.

there's never been any vive in mick's solo career, i think it's safe to say....so until there is there can be no re-vive....or something....

'Wandering Spirit' is as good as any post-Tattoo You Stones album (far more inspired than most of the Stones-by-numbers 'Voodoo Lounge' imo). I still believe that Mick is capable of a successful solo career as long as he doesn't try too hard to be contemporary, which was the big problem with his other 3 albums.

one decent album is hardly the stuff of solo "career"....

i guess he could be like some of these bloozemen who blossom late in life - another robert belfour? haha...yeah, right. mick's better off leading the life of luxury...he worked so hard to keep himself in it.....

Jerry Lee Lewis had the best-selling album of his career when he was 71 years old. So never say never...

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'Wandering Spirit' is as good as any post-Tattoo You Stones album (far more inspired than most of the Stones-by-numbers 'Voodoo Lounge' imo). I still believe that Mick is capable of a successful solo career as long as he doesn't try too hard to be contemporary, which was the big problem with his other 3 albums.

Unfortunately you're right as far as Wandering Spirit being better than Voodoo Lounge. Which is quite unique in a way (same could be said for Talk Is Cheap and Main Offender being better than Steel Wheels and Voodoo Lounge!).

However, and this has been talked about before, what they left off Voodoo Lounge was, to me, of what I have on bootleg and have heard, much better than the majority of what is on the album. They make such strange (bad) decisions like that.

However Part 2 - it does leave room for a new album if they were to go back and finish those tracks, especially It's Funny and You Got It Made and the one with the keyboard and harmonica that's a nice groove, which may have been done (?) for the so called Memory Hotel album that should have come out in 1999, if it was indeed even an album. I can't remember what was to be on that album from the speculation around here - the Voodoo and Bridges B-sides I guess...

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Hairball
Mick is schmoozing in Hollywood and appearing at the Grammy's...sounds like he's about to revive his solo career to me.

REvive? when was it vived?

Ha...
I actually think Jagger's best song from the 80s was State of Shock!

For some reason my favourite Jagger solo, or at least way up there, is Ruthless People.

And it's really bunk that it didn't make Mick's best of comp, which I never bothered to get. Did anyone get it?

NO

Did anyone get it?

YEAH scored it for free ....Sara left it at my joint and never came back ta get it .........



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