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Brown Sugar with Eric Clapton on Slide Guitar
Posted by: mitchflorida1 ()
Date: May 13, 2012 22:47

I never heard this before to be honest. Clapton on slide guitar, Al Kooper on piano. I think the begining is better than the more popular version, but it isn't mixed that well. The saxes make the song sound too busy.









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Re: Brown Sugar with Eric Clapton on Slide Guitar
Posted by: crumbling_mice ()
Date: May 13, 2012 23:22

Never liked this. Wrong sort of slide guitar for that song...if it has to have any


Re: Brown Sugar with Eric Clapton on Slide Guitar
Posted by: mitchflorida1 ()
Date: May 13, 2012 23:47

What sort of slide guitar would you use?

Re: Brown Sugar with Eric Clapton on Slide Guitar
Posted by: deardoctor ()
Date: May 13, 2012 23:51

äh - no. not wrong slide guitar. it´s only the best version. it´s only rock´n´roll!

Re: Brown Sugar with Eric Clapton on Slide Guitar
Posted by: mitchflorida1 ()
Date: May 13, 2012 23:59

my take is that it doesn't need both slide guitar AND the Saxes in the back.

That is gilding the lily.

You can mix the two though.







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Re: Brown Sugar with Eric Clapton on Slide Guitar
Posted by: BluzDude ()
Date: May 14, 2012 01:22

I think it's a damn great version.

Re: Brown Sugar with Eric Clapton on Slide Guitar
Posted by: Tate ()
Date: May 14, 2012 01:28

It's different, and that's why I like it. Put me back in the mixing room back in 1969/70, I'd probably have chosen the one we got on S.F., but I have always liked this gritty version.

Re: Brown Sugar with Eric Clapton on Slide Guitar
Posted by: scottkeef ()
Date: May 14, 2012 01:42

I've always liked this "Keiths birthday" recording better myself but the creator of the video is mistaken, this isnt the original. The Muscle Shoals version is..

Re: Brown Sugar with Eric Clapton on Slide Guitar
Posted by: 71Tele ()
Date: May 14, 2012 02:22

The version with the extra country guitar licks seen/heard in Gimme Shelter is very cool.

Re: Brown Sugar with Eric Clapton on Slide Guitar
Posted by: jazzbass ()
Date: May 14, 2012 03:24

I always liked this version. Pretty sure Eric was spending a good bit of time with Duane Allman around this time whom he has credited with really inspiring his slide.

Re: Brown Sugar with Eric Clapton on Slide Guitar
Posted by: Long John Stoner ()
Date: May 14, 2012 03:38

The slide guitar is alright, it's the piano that sounds like an afterthought.

Re: Brown Sugar with Eric Clapton on Slide Guitar
Posted by: tatters ()
Date: May 14, 2012 03:51

Can't believe they never tacked this on as a bonus track to a Sticky Fingers remaster somewhere along the way.

Re: Brown Sugar with Eric Clapton on Slide Guitar
Posted by: mitchflorida1 ()
Date: May 14, 2012 04:14

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BluzDude
I think it's a damn great version.

I think the vocals are better on this version than the original. Especially Keith's.



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Re: Brown Sugar with Eric Clapton on Slide Guitar
Posted by: mitchflorida1 ()
Date: May 14, 2012 04:14

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Re: Brown Sugar with Eric Clapton on Slide Guitar
Posted by: CousinC ()
Date: May 15, 2012 02:18

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mitchflorida1
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BluzDude
I think it's a damn great version.

I think the vocals are better on this version than the original. Especially Keith's.

The drumming's good as well. I always liked this version and for some time it was even considered to be released as the official version. But in the end there is something about the original version that makes it superior.

Re: Brown Sugar with Eric Clapton on Slide Guitar
Posted by: microvibe ()
Date: May 15, 2012 05:04

is mick taylor playing bass on this track?

Re: Brown Sugar with Eric Clapton on Slide Guitar
Posted by: BluzDude ()
Date: May 15, 2012 07:04

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CousinC
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mitchflorida1
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BluzDude
I think it's a damn great version.

I think the vocals are better on this version than the original. Especially Keith's.

The drumming's good as well. I always liked this version and for some time it was even considered to be released as the official version. But in the end there is something about the original version that makes it superior.

It's slick and commercially produced (not saying it's a bad thing) and the one here is just bluesier, which I dig.

Re: Brown Sugar with Eric Clapton on Slide Guitar
Posted by: mitchflorida1 ()
Date: May 15, 2012 13:50

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microvibe
is mick taylor playing bass on this track?

Isn't that Mick Taylor playing solo at 1:55?

Re: Brown Sugar with Eric Clapton on Slide Guitar
Posted by: More Hot Rocks ()
Date: May 15, 2012 13:53

Terrible

Re: Brown Sugar with Eric Clapton on Slide Guitar
Posted by: Mathijs ()
Date: May 15, 2012 14:15

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mitchflorida1
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microvibe
is mick taylor playing bass on this track?

Isn't that Mick Taylor playing solo at 1:55?

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Mathijs



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Re: Brown Sugar with Eric Clapton on Slide Guitar
Date: May 15, 2012 14:28

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microvibe
is mick taylor playing bass on this track?

I don't think Taylor is on this track at all.

Clapton plays the slide as well as the solo guitar after Bobby's solo.

Re: Brown Sugar with Eric Clapton on Slide Guitar
Posted by: mitchflorida1 ()
Date: May 15, 2012 22:29

Yes, that does sound like Clapton, apparently he over dubbed the solo.

I wonder why they went to the trouble of going to a recording studio if they had no intent on releasing it. It is not perfect, but it just needed to be polished just a little bit. Probably it would have cost the Stones a bunch of money to release the Clapton version. He doesn't work for free.



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Re: Brown Sugar with Eric Clapton on Slide Guitar
Date: May 15, 2012 22:47

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mitchflorida1
Yes, that does sound like Clapton, apparently he over dubbed the solo.

I wonder why they went to the trouble of going to a recording studio if they had no intent on releasing it. It is not perfect, but it just needed to be polished just a little bit. Probably it would have cost the Stones a bunch of money to release the Clapton version. He doesn't work for free.

It was recorded during Keith's birthday party. It was a great version indeed, but I don't think it was ever intended for release.

I think Clapton played the solo live, since he is obviously playing the slide in standard tuning + that it doesn't exactly sound like a multiple take solo...

Re: Brown Sugar with Eric Clapton on Slide Guitar
Posted by: theanchorman ()
Date: May 15, 2012 23:07

Much better Keith backing vocals on this one. That alone makes this stronger than the original IMO
I recall hearing this was originally going to be the version released on SF but then they released the Taylor version to better represent the current version of the band...

Re: Brown Sugar with Eric Clapton on Slide Guitar
Posted by: Mathijs ()
Date: May 15, 2012 23:14

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DandelionPowderman

I think Clapton played the solo live, since he is obviously playing the slide in standard tuning + that it doesn't exactly sound like a multiple take solo...

If you listen closely you can hear the solo overlapping with the slide, so the solo is an overdub.

Mathijs

Re: Brown Sugar with Eric Clapton on Slide Guitar
Posted by: jazzbass ()
Date: October 23, 2012 02:11

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Mathijs
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DandelionPowderman

I think Clapton played the solo live, since he is obviously playing the slide in standard tuning + that it doesn't exactly sound like a multiple take solo...

If you listen closely you can hear the solo overlapping with the slide, so the solo is an overdub.

Mathijs

Bullshit.

Re: Brown Sugar with Eric Clapton on Slide Guitar
Posted by: Come On ()
Date: October 23, 2012 08:20

Keith's back-up vocal is better on this one...thumbs up

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Re: Brown Sugar with Eric Clapton on Slide Guitar
Posted by: Blueranger ()
Date: October 23, 2012 08:33

Always thought it was Taylor on the slide. It has his trademark vibrato...
The solo is Clapton though...

Re: Brown Sugar with Eric Clapton on Slide Guitar
Posted by: Mathijs ()
Date: October 23, 2012 10:17

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jazzbass
Quote
Mathijs
Quote
DandelionPowderman

I think Clapton played the solo live, since he is obviously playing the slide in standard tuning + that it doesn't exactly sound like a multiple take solo...

If you listen closely you can hear the solo overlapping with the slide, so the solo is an overdub.

Mathijs

Bullshit.

Before you say that listen to the end and beginning of the solo. It overlaps with the slide. So there are either two players, of the solo is overdubbed.

Mathijs

Re: Brown Sugar with Eric Clapton on Slide Guitar
Posted by: Doxa ()
Date: October 23, 2012 10:52

A nice curiosity but pales in comparison to the released one, which is simply a perfect recording made in a right place in a right moment.

Richards is funnily still working on the open riff (was the released version recorded a yaer or something earlier? The Clapton version is from 1970, right?). Very close to the way he would open the 1972/73 shows.

- Doxa

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