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Indian girl
Date: February 13, 2005 09:41

What do you think of this song? I love it.

Re: Indian girl
Posted by: Harm ()
Date: February 13, 2005 11:07

So do I

Re: Indian girl
Posted by: Anonymous User ()
Date: February 13, 2005 14:40

Me, too. Don't like most of the album though.

Re: Indian girl
Posted by: davido ()
Date: February 13, 2005 16:57

I like Indian Girl.
Also the longer unedited
mix on Static in the Attic!

Re: Indian girl
Posted by: erikjjf ()
Date: February 13, 2005 17:16

The long outtake version is kind of nice. I like the pedal steel.

Re: Indian girl
Posted by: mickijaggeroo ()
Date: February 13, 2005 17:51

I absolutely hate it, canĀ“t stand the trumpetsection...and the sentimentality.

Vilhelm
Nordic Stones Vikings

Re: Indian girl
Posted by: smilingsun ()
Date: February 13, 2005 20:41

Well, the spoken part is a bit too much, I like it otherwise.

Re: Indian girl
Posted by: Tseverin ()
Date: February 14, 2005 00:07

Are you serious? This has to be one of the worst Stones songs ever recorded! A complete embarassment.

Re: Indian girl
Posted by: mandu ()
Date: February 14, 2005 01:39

one of my fav to i love the whole album

Re: Indian girl
Posted by: davido ()
Date: February 14, 2005 04:15

The debate over the Emotional Rescue album
is right up there with the Woods /Taylor
debate -I doubt it will ever be resolved.
You love or hate it. Overtime it's
definately grown on me, some good funk,
some good hard rockin' bluez, some disco,
a few oddities like Indian Girl, which
further help make it different in it's
own way, rather an anomoly.

Let me guess, those who hate it also
don't like Black and Blue................?

Re: Indian girl
Posted by: john r ()
Date: February 14, 2005 04:31

ER rocks my world. Sort of. Coming circa London Calling, Prince's Dirty Mind, Gang of Four's "Solid Gold", etc it did seem a tad outre, but it sure doesnt sound like SF or IORR - the guitars especially poke and jab & weave around & within the rhythm section in a more jazz-like manner, it swings, and it has been astonishingly listenable (especially the details)over time for me - improved with age despite not being a classic 'song' album - the band cooks in a fresh way, they sound eccentric, like masters, coked out maybe, and the last song has the same impact (in this context) as Marianne's Broken English had. But Indian Girl always felt like the weakest cut (replace w/ Think I'm Going Mad, then you got a great album)

Re: Indian girl
Posted by: monkey man ()
Date: February 14, 2005 04:56

Has so much potential but so badly performed, edited and produced.

Where the hell does the brass fit in?
Jagger's vox in parts are plain silly.
The harmonies can't find themselves.
It's way too long.

It reminds me of "Till the next goodbye" - so much potential and just went right off the rails.

Wish they'd put as much thought into "Indian girl" as they did with "Waiting on a friend" the following year.

kyle m

Have you ever lent somebody $20 and never seen them again? It was probably worth it.

Re: Indian girl
Posted by: Gazza ()
Date: February 14, 2005 05:02

Cheesy and toe-curling

Re: Indian girl
Posted by: johang ()
Date: February 14, 2005 06:24

Its a good song nothing like the worst they done, but not outstanding either. Easy to get sick over listening to it too much, like most of the songs they made since 81. Not sure if I look forward to the new album...

Re: Indian girl
Date: February 14, 2005 06:43

Love the album, love the song; always have. It's great to play at a booze up party.

"The wonder of Jimi Hendrix was that he could stand up at all he was so pumped full of drugs." Patsy, Patsy Stone

Re: Indian girl
Posted by: Rorty ()
Date: February 14, 2005 09:48

They said that Jagger drunk quite a lot at that time. That vocal performance is not done by a sober man (neither many others in the album). It'still has its natural charm (sort of) - slightly better than some of his recent over-tried and over-interpreted and over-manouvered performances (from Voodoo on)

- Doxa

Re: Indian girl
Posted by: erikjjf ()
Date: February 14, 2005 09:53

"I think people are misinterpreting Emotional Rescue. It's just a lot of fun. A humorous, tongue-in-cheek record. It's not supposed to be taken seriously."

- Mick Jagger, 1980

Re: Indian girl
Posted by: Rorty ()
Date: February 14, 2005 10:06

Good reminder, erikjjf!

I sometimes miss that relaxed tongue-in-cheek and a bit self-ironic attitude the Stones had in the late seventies-early eighties. That added one dimension into their decadent charm. Emotional Rescue is the highlight of that. What a groovy album. (A video of "Starm Me Up" is a other winner).

- Doxa

Re: Indian girl
Posted by: Mathijs ()
Date: February 14, 2005 10:52

It's actually the one and only Stones song I can name that I really can't stand, and even get emberrassed by. The horrible lyrics, the fake emotions, the dreadfull horns, I hate it. Normally the Stones get away with this kind of songs because they do it tong-in-cheek (Dear Doctor, Till the Next Goodbye, Faraway Eyes), but now Jagger means it, all the so-called politic correctness.

Mathijs

Re: Indian girl
Date: February 14, 2005 11:36

Mathijs Wrote:
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> It's actually the one and only Stones song I can
> name that I really can't stand, and even get
> emberrassed by. The horrible lyrics, the fake
> emotions, the dreadfull horns, I hate it. Normally
> the Stones get away with this kind of songs
> because they do it tong-in-cheek (Dear Doctor,
> Till the Next Goodbye, Faraway Eyes), but now
> Jagger means it, all the so-called politic
> correctness.
>
> Mathijs

Perhaps it's a two fingered salute to Bianca and her 'causes'?




"The wonder of Jimi Hendrix was that he could stand up at all he was so pumped full of drugs." Patsy, Patsy Stone

Re: Indian girl
Posted by: Rorty ()
Date: February 14, 2005 11:51

Mathijs, do you think that Mick really "means" that? I have always had the impression that the whole song and its arrangements is a big joke . And I always found it very funny. Maybe it is really an "honest" and "serious" attempt to make a touchy and relevant political statement, but the result is so bad, that it is unintentionally funny - like some cheap and sloppy b-hollywood film...

Hmm.. I just gave it another listen - and no, I can not ever take that Jagger vocal performance to be a serious try - I will place it into the category of the songs Mathijs listed. I think it is one of his most vicious performances ever. Drunk or not.

- Doxa





Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2005-02-14 11:51 by Rorty.

Re: Indian girl
Posted by: Hound Dog ()
Date: February 14, 2005 16:17

I have also read Mick saying that songs like Far Away Eyes and Indian Girl were not meant to be taken seriously. About the song, I think its ok, not great but certainly not your worst. Emotional Rescue in general I find to be an ok album, but I think Where The Boys Go is one of their worst songs ever. I have played this song for others who could not believe how bad it is. Those extra female vocals at the end of the song make me cringe.

Re: Indian girl
Date: February 14, 2005 17:05

Indian Girl is one of the worst songs they ever recorded. Of course, toungue-in-cheek, but also loaded with ridiculous, twisted and false historical references.

Listen to Desire (the album) by Bob Dylan. One of the songs in there is remarkably similar to Indian Girl smiling smiley

Re: Indian girl
Posted by: BowieStone ()
Date: February 14, 2005 17:42

DandelionPowderman Wrote:
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>
> Listen to Desire (the album) by Bob Dylan. One of
> the songs in there is remarkably similar to Indian
> Girl
>

What song r u talking about?


Re: Indian girl
Posted by: T&A ()
Date: February 14, 2005 22:00

I LOVE THIS SONG. Love the whole album, actually. I particular like Mick's vocals and Bill's deep bass bombs. Killer tune, IMO.

Re: Indian girl
Posted by: john r ()
Date: February 14, 2005 23:21

My gut feeling re IG is Mick 'means it' - or wants to, & it doesnt work - Keith 'means it' on All About You, & coming after the rest of this funky, eccentric, playful (musically & lyrically), jaded album, it's like a sucker punch. Parts of "Sandinista" are just as inane as IG but from the stones - who unlike the Clash never been romantics or idealists, & also no thanks to Jack Nitzsche's horns, it doesn't work. The band sounds fine, of course, but Mick cant pull it off. He also once said you could smell the coke in the grooves, too...What makes Faraway Eyes work for me isnt just the easy parody of white trash southern baptist types, but the wistful, universal way the choruses - which is total contrast from verses - resonate. Perfect balance. Not so different from parts of "Gilded Palace of Sin"

Re: Indian girl
Posted by: davido ()
Date: February 15, 2005 00:10

Yes, the albums been criticized for being
too cold and sterile, a little irony might've
helped, if in fact the disco feel to some of it
was a parody. I'm not sure it was tho. Disco
didn't necessarily have the depth of soul
and in this way the title track was clinically
speaking right on.

The marimba styled Indian Girl with its perhaps
rather obscure politcal musings wouldn't really
seem to fit in anywhere, but it is not without
some political in jokes bordering
on irony (Ie shootong down planes with
M16's admist laughter.........etc), and is
more successful to this end, if not rather
hard to catch. The Stones went more out on
a limb, musically and lyrically with this one,
I often miss this tendency in a lot of their more
recent work, were they'd rather play it safe. It
takes risks, pushes the envelope, but isuppose
ultimately you either like the little adventure
or don't. Personally I do, tho granted it does
remain a minor often forgotten addition to
their canon of other more widely recognized works.

Re: Indian girl
Posted by: T&A ()
Date: February 15, 2005 00:20

Geez Davido - that's an awful scholarly, almost egg-headed analysis! Remember what Keith says about rock'n'roll: it's all from the waist down - you start thinking too much and you've missed the boat!

cheers....

Re: Indian girl
Posted by: davido ()
Date: February 15, 2005 00:25

Maybe so but I think you can
both analyse and feel a good
rock and roll record, which is
what raises it above most pop.

Re: Indian girl
Posted by: T&A ()
Date: February 15, 2005 00:26

i was just giving you a hard time :-)

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