Whats your favourite Stones Conspiracy Theory there seems to be a few of them out there at the moment..

For me, it has to be the one about Mick and Keith being behind Brian's death...it doesn't get discussed much these days but way back when it has some weight. Before I get pounced on, I personally don't believe it....but then again, Keith didn't attend his funeral....guilt?

That Mick Taylor quit the Stones because of Keith. I find that hilarious every time I hear it

maybe we should try to list them before we vote.....to determine a criteria for "conspiracy" and to refresh our memories.

1. brian jones' death - foul play? - stones involved?
2. mick taylor quits stones because of keith
3. ??


IORR............but I like it!

1. brian jones' death - foul play? - stones involved?
2. mick taylor quits stones because of keith
3. Keith died in the 1970's and was replaced with a looka likee

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colonial
Whats your favourite Stones Conspiracy Theory there seems to be a few of them out there at the moment..

Rumour has it they're conspiring to tour in 2011 ... that's a particularly good one.

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colonial
Whats your favourite Stones Conspiracy Theory there seems to be a few of them out there at the moment..

Rumour has it they're conspiring to tour in 2011 ... that's a particularly good one.

Good one...and possibly the most unlikely of them all !!!

That the 1975 Arkansas bust actually involved a pound of smack and a loaded gun, not a knife and some reefer, and that the Stones added three dates at the end of the tour (which they did) in order to balance the budget of little Fordyce, Arkansas for a decade.

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3. Keith died in the 1970's and was replaced with a looka likee

???

Not so much conspiracy theory but more a fantasy that Mick won some 1970(?) European porno film award for outtake footage from Performance.

That's a load of cock and bull.

I find the occult stuff to be quite interesting. This is all over the web, but I copied it from [www.av1611.org]


"In his book, The Ultimate Evil, investigator-author Maury Terry writes that between 1966 and 1967, the Satanic cult, the Process Church, "sought to recruit the Rolling Stones and the Beatles." During this period, Terry reports that a photo of Rolling Stones leader Mick Jagger's longtime girlfriend, Marianne Faithfull, appeared in an issue of The Process Magazine. The picture shows her supine, as if dead, clutching a rose. Terry's book goes on to implicate the Process Church cult in the Charles Manson and Son of Sam multiple murders. It was the former lawyer for the Process Church, John Markham, who recently ran the frameup trial against Lyndon LaRouche.

A key link between the Rolling Stones and the Process Church is Kenneth Anger, a follower of the "founding father" of modern Satanism, Aleister Crowley. Anger, born in 1930, and a child Hollywood movie star, became a devoted disciple of Crowley.

Crowley was born in 1875 and was called the "Great Beast." He was known to practice ritual child sacrifice regularly, in his role as Satan's high priest or "Magus." Crowley died in 1947 due to complications of his huge heroin addiction. Before dying, he succeeded in establishing Satanic covens in many U.S. cities including Hollywood. Anger, like Crowley, is a Magus, and appears to be the heir to Crowley.

Anger was seventeen years old when Crowley died. In that same year, 1947, Anger was already producing and directing films which, even by today's standards, reek of pure evil.

During 1966-1967, when the Process Church is reported to be recruiting in London, Anger was also on the scene. Author Tony Sanchez describes that Rolling Stones' Mick Jagger and Keith Richard, and their girlfriends Marianne Faithfull and Anita Pallenburg, "listened spellbound as Anger turned them on to Crowley's powers and ideas."(Tony Sanchez, Up and Down WIth the Rolling Stones, p.155)

While in England, Anger worked on a film dedicated to Aleister Crowley, called Lucifer Rising. The film brought together the Process Church, the Manson Family cult, and the Rolling Stones. The music for the film was composed by Mick Jagger. Process Church follower Marianne Faithfull went all the way to Egypt to participate in the film's depiction of a Black Mass. The part of Lucifer was played by a guitarist of a California rock group, Bobby Beausoleil. Beausoleil was a member of the Manson Family, and Anger's homosexual lover.

A few months after filming under Anger's direction in England, Beausoleil returned to California to commit the first of the Manson family's series of gruesome murders. Beausoleil was later arrested and is now serving a life sentence in prison along with Manson. Having lost his star performer, Anger then asked Mick Jagger to play Lucifer. He finally settled upon Anton La Vey, author of The Satanic Bible and head of the First Church of Satan, to play the part. The film was released in 1969 with the title Invocation To My Demon Brother.

In London, Anger had succeeded in recruiting to Satanism the girlfriend of one of the Rolling Stones, Anita Pallenberg. Pallenberg had met the Rolling Stones in 1965. She immediately began sexual relations with three out of the five members of the group.

Anger, commenting on Anita, said, "I believe that Anita is, for want of a better word, a witch...The occult unit within the Stones was Keith and Anita...and Brian. You see, Brian was a witch too."

One of the group's friends, Tony Sanchez, writes of Pallenberg in his book, Up and Down with the Rolling Stones, "She was obsessed with black magic and began to carry a string of garlic with her everywhere--even to bed--to ward off vampires. She also had a strange mysterious old shaker for holy water which she used for some of her rituals. Her ceremonies became increasingly secret, and she warned me never to interrupt her when she was working on a spell."(Tony Sanchez, Up and Down WIth the Rolling Stones, p.159)

He continues, "In her bedroom she kept a huge, ornate carved chest, which she guarded so jealously that I assumed it was her drug stash. The house was empty one day, and I decided to take a peep inside. The drawers were filled with scraps of bone, wrinkled skin and fur from some strange animals."(Tony Sanchez, Up and Down WIth the Rolling Stones, p.159)

In 1980, the seventeen-year-old caretaker of Keith Richard's New England estate was found shot to death in Anita Pallenberg's bed. The death, ruled a suicide, was with Pallenberg's gun. Richard's house was located near the East Coast headquarters of the Process Church. According to an article in the English newspaper Midnite, a Connecticut police officer, Michael Passaro, who had responed to the "suicide'' reported "strange singing" from the woods a quarter mile from the Richard's mansion.

The newspaper continues, "There have been several bizarre satanic rituals in the area over the past five years. A local reporter attributed the outbreak of occultism to 'rich people taking Acid.'"

In 1967, reflecting their ongoing association with Anger and the Process Church, the Rolling Stones released their first rock album openly celebrating the Devil, titled, Their Satanic Majesties Request. A few months earlier, the Beatles had released their first album dedicated to the promotion of psychedelic drugs, Sargeant Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band. The album contained a fantasized version of an LSD trip, called "Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds", or L.S.D. for short. It became a top seller.

Clearly, the Beatles' album was dedicated to Satanist Aleister Crowley. It was released 20 years, nearly to the day, after Crowley's death in 1947, and its title song began with the lyrics, "It was twenty years ago today..." The album's cover featured a picture of Crowley...."



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paulywaul
Rumour has it they're conspiring to tour in 2011

Actually it would be 2010 since people were utterly convinced, even after the Stones said they won't, that they would.

But that's not exactly a conspiracy is it. It's stupidity.

Mick OD on cocaine in 1976 and was hospitalized.
He was in hospitale for sure, but why?

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That the 1975 Arkansas bust actually involved a pound of smack and a loaded gun, not a knife and some reefer, and that the Stones added three dates at the end of the tour (which they did) in order to balance the budget of little Fordyce, Arkansas for a decade.

That sounds interesting. Can we have some mo'?

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paulywaul
Rumour has it they're conspiring to tour in 2011

Actually it would be 2010 since people were utterly convinced, even after the Stones said they won't, that they would.

But that's not exactly a conspiracy is it. It's stupidity.

Agreed

[ I want to shout, but I can hardly speak ]

Maybe 'conspiracy' is too tenuous a term, but one of my favourites was the defiant postings of one fan on here in the middle of the 2007 tour, whilst dozens of other posters were insisting that they the shows they had attended had seen Keith play somewhat out of tune.

He seriously tried to argue that it was quite possible that, musical genius that he was, Keith had devised some original way of playing the guitar in which HE knew precisely what he was doing but that the audience weren't sophisticated enough to grasp it and so they were 'mistaken' in believing that he was playing bum notes.

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Maybe 'conspiracy' is too tenuous a term, but one of my favourites was the defiant postings of one fan on here in the middle of the 2007 tour, whilst dozens of other posters were insisting that they the shows they had attended had seen Keith play somewhat out of tune.

He seriously tried to argue that it was quite possible that, musical genius that he was, Keith had devised some original way of playing the guitar in which HE knew precisely what he was doing but that the audience weren't sophisticated enough to grasp it and so they were 'mistaken' in believing that he was playing bum notes.

well, he does have a point, up to a point. sophistication and stones fandom are rarely seen together.....

I suppose all the Conspiracy theories people might think they have on The Rolling Stones..is nothing compared to the
Nixon vs Lennon one..

The Mars Bar was actually a Snickers.

I like the anthology of theories that when added up leads to mick and keith not having written any of the Stones' greatest songs, but that instead brian, bill, and Ry Cooder are the masterminds behind the band's catalog.

John Jaymeson hired by Ron Schnieder '69 tour

Not really a Stones conspiracy per se but the rumor that the CIA passed out bad acid at Altamont. And according to Sam Cutler the Mafia & the Knights of Columbus were also involved -- somehow.

Charlie, Keith & Ron were faking it during Steel Wheels! Pre-recorded drums! Guitarists in the wings!

Thank you, Boston Herald. Didn't they get sued for that?

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Not really a Stones conspiracy per se but the rumor that the CIA passed out bad acid at Altamont. And according to Sam Cutler the Mafia & the Knights of Columbus were also involved -- somehow.

I think i beleive this one...

Jimi Hendrix joined the Stones onstage during the second 1969 Auburn show but was booed so relentlessly that Jagger forbid any mention of "the experience"

Almost as good as the pound of smack post.

Not a conspiracy, but that myth that during the last of show of the T.O.T.A. Mick, Keith & Ron were on acid and the band played Brown Sugar while Mick sang Street Fighting Man...listened to a bootleg of that show, never happened.

Also Keith punching Ron on the face on that 82' Wembley show.

One I don't want to mention.......

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That the 1975 Arkansas bust actually involved a pound of smack and a loaded gun, not a knife and some reefer, and that the Stones added three dates at the end of the tour (which they did) in order to balance the budget of little Fordyce, Arkansas for a decade.

That sounds interesting. Can we have some mo'?

Came to my ears, circa '76, from the lips of a prominent (though now forgotten) Midwestern album rock DJ who'd spent a couple weeks being wined and dined in LA with music biz bigshots. I've proffered it here before only to have it dismissed out of hand by the 'know-it-alls.' The Stones DID cancel the three South American dates on their '75 Tour of The AMERICAS and replaced them with shows in the US, including a return to Buffalo, New York. One expert sniffed to me that the dates were canceled for logistical reasons which, one would think, would have been settled before undertaking a Tour of The AMERICAS.

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One I don't want to mention.......

let's hear it.....