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Re: OT WORLD CUP 2010 in South Africa - the IORR thread
Posted by: FreeBird ()
Date: June 13, 2010 19:24

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Max'sKansasCity
I have another question-
Does anyone know what that buzzing sound is on the broadcasts?
It sounds like a swarm of bees or electrical interference or something...
[en.wikipedia.org]
For me it's a totally new (and annoying) experience as well...

Re: OT WORLD CUP 2010 in South Africa - the IORR thread
Posted by: yorkey ()
Date: June 13, 2010 19:45



They call it "beautiful noise". Bring with your ear plugs!

You got the Sun, You got the Moon,
and you've got
The Rolling Stones

Re: OT WORLD CUP 2010 in South Africa - the IORR thread
Posted by: Max'sKansasCity ()
Date: June 13, 2010 20:36

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FreeBird
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Max'sKansasCity
I have another question-
Does anyone know what that buzzing sound is on the broadcasts?
It sounds like a swarm of bees or electrical interference or something...
[en.wikipedia.org]
For me it's a totally new (and annoying) experience as well...


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yorkey


They call it "beautiful noise". Bring with your ear plugs!


Thanks for posting the information, I appreciate it.
It sounds like my ears did the day after we went to the
"Black and Blue"** show years ago. It was the loudest concert I have ever attended.


Black Sabbath/Blue Oyster Cult**

Re: OT WORLD CUP 2010 in South Africa - the IORR thread
Posted by: colonial ()
Date: June 13, 2010 21:01

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Max'sKansasCity
Quote
FreeBird
Quote
Max'sKansasCity
I have another question-
Does anyone know what that buzzing sound is on the broadcasts?
It sounds like a swarm of bees or electrical interference or something...
[en.wikipedia.org]
For me it's a totally new (and annoying) experience as well...


Quote
yorkey


They call it "beautiful noise". Bring with your ear plugs!


Thanks for posting the information, I appreciate it.
It sounds like my ears did the day after we went to the
"Black and Blue"** show years ago. It was the loudest concert I have ever attended.


Black Sabbath/Blue Oyster Cult**
Maxs KansasCity..hey mate..ya havent heard nothing yet.. ya wait to the half time entertainment comes on

Re: OT WORLD CUP 2010 in South Africa - the IORR thread
Posted by: Rolling Hansie ()
Date: June 13, 2010 21:07

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Max'sKansasCity

I have another question-
Does anyone know what that buzzing sound is on the broadcasts?





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Keep On Rolling smoking smiley

Re: OT WORLD CUP 2010 in South Africa - the IORR thread
Posted by: Max'sKansasCity ()
Date: June 13, 2010 21:47

Will this become a coined phrase for music reviewers.
e.g.
" __________ new CD title ____________ is so bad that I
would rather be locked in a room with 1000 South Africans
blowing Vuvuzelas than listen this trot".


; )

also....
A quick scan of news feeds indicates some folks
dont much care for the beautiful noise.......
[www.cbsnews.com]

Re: OT WORLD CUP 2010 in South Africa - the IORR thread
Posted by: Mister J ()
Date: June 13, 2010 22:05

Considering what IORR forum is now, Football and fame are important. Music do not matter. A shame. When I was young and fresh, I thought music was fantastic.

to BV : Your fanzine, IORR WAS great. then you became a protector, banning bootleg news from your zine, banning Tayloristes, editing a report of one of my friend about the sessions in paris 1985.

you are are the under-assistant of the sect.

Bjornulf, you can ban me again and again and again.

Jean Haristoy. this is my name. I don't think you have enough honour to reply in front of everybody.

Re: OT WORLD CUP 2010 in South Africa - the IORR thread
Posted by: Max'sKansasCity ()
Date: June 13, 2010 22:20

So I wonder where one can buy several of these Vuvuzelas ??

I would like to send some to my nieces and nephews, so they can "entertain" my sister ; )

Re: OT WORLD CUP 2010 in South Africa - the IORR thread
Posted by: Rolling Hansie ()
Date: June 13, 2010 22:21

Alright Jean, but you like football ?

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Keep On Rolling smoking smiley

Re: OT WORLD CUP 2010 in South Africa - the IORR thread
Posted by: Rolling Hansie ()
Date: June 13, 2010 22:23

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Max'sKansasCity
So I wonder where one can buy several of these Vuvuzelas ??

I would like to send some to my nieces and nephews, so they can "entertain" my sister ; )

[www.vuvuzela-shop.nl]

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Keep On Rolling smoking smiley

Re: OT WORLD CUP 2010 in South Africa - the IORR thread
Posted by: Mister J ()
Date: June 13, 2010 22:25

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Rolling Hansie
Alright Jean, but you like football ?

Don't care about sports. I am french, and french football team is a shame, they stole Ireland place in world cup. I care about music.

IORR should care about music, too.

Re: OT WORLD CUP 2010 in South Africa - the IORR thread
Posted by: 71Tele ()
Date: June 13, 2010 22:32

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andy js
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sweetcharmedlife
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andy js
My old ma always said to me, If you don't like football or AC/DC you're either gay or American
Is that supposed to be funny?


I don't think she was joking to be honest

Well, I'm American, love "football", hate ACDC, so does that mean I'm half-Gay?

Re: OT WORLD CUP 2010 in South Africa - the IORR thread
Posted by: 71Tele ()
Date: June 13, 2010 22:39

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kleermaker
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The Sicilian
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dcba
"I don't get why it hasn't gotten more popular in the States"

Americans as a whole, prefer action sports. It is a large country with 50 states that have multiple large urban areas that enjoy the competition between cities of other states and within the states themselves. Added to that is the different climate regions throughout the country that cater to sports of the major catagories.

A fair comparison would be to say the competition between our states cities is like competition between the countries of Europe. Only we have many more venues.

Soccer in our terms is a VERY low scoring sport that produces very little in scoring opportunities and about 85 minutes of kickball. However I enjoy the tournaments and especially the World Cup.

I can understand the low degree of interest in football amongst the American public. They have no football tradition, different from many other countries. And indeed, if you're used to basketball scores, the scores in football are disappointing. Many games end up in a draw and then we have that horrible off side rule. Football is an utterly conservative sport. Changes in the rules are a matter of years and years. On the other hand, the action time in baseball is very short, compared to the long time of inactivity. It takes so long before any action takes place in the field. So one has to be very patient to watch a baseball game if one hasn't grown up in a baseball tradition.

I make my living in baseball, and love it. I can say that people who criticize baseball for "lack of action" are only skimming the surface of the game. Baseball is situational. There are myriad possibilities in any given situation (number of outs, runners on base, left vs. righthanded pitcher or batter, etc.) If you are oblivious to the richness of those possibilities, yes, you could think baseball is boring. Baseball also has no clock, so the pace can vary significantly between games and within the same game. It marries multiple individual skills and performances within a team effort. One also has to have different kinds of skills (hitting, fielding, baserunning, etc.), so it generally does not reward one-dimensional players, as other more specialized sports do (like American football, for example, where half the team is not even allowed to touch the ball, and players spend entire careers only blocking or tackling). Baseball also has a rich history, and knowledge of some of this history adds immeasurably to the enjoyment of the game.

To sum up, I would say that foreigners who criticize baseball as "boring" are just as guilty of shallowness as Americans who criticize soccer for being "low scoring".



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2010-06-13 22:41 by 71Tele.

Re: OT WORLD CUP 2010 in South Africa - the IORR thread
Posted by: behroez ()
Date: June 13, 2010 22:41

It wasn't going well for the African nations; a draw for the RSA, and a loss for both Nigeria and Algeria. But Ghana has won, so i've been told. Well, let's see North-Korea kick some ass.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2010-06-14 16:21 by behroez.

Re: OT WORLD CUP 2010 in South Africa - the IORR thread
Posted by: Max'sKansasCity ()
Date: June 13, 2010 23:22

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71Tele
I make my living in baseball, and love it.......
You make your living playing baseball? that sounds fun, what do you do?

If you are a baseball expert I have a baseball question maybe you can answer.

What is the origin and logic about the rule regarding;
when the batter has 2 stikes, and then swings and
misses at what would be strike three YOU ARE OUT,
BUT if/when the catcher does not control the ball,
and it rolls away, then the batter can run to first base,
and if he gets there before the catcher can throw him out, he is safe.

Why is this not allowed on the first 2 strikes?
why is the batter not out the moment he swings and misses?
When, why and what incident inspired the creation of this rule?



In football; the most spectacular plays are made on offense,
In baseball; the most spectacular plays are made on defense.
I like watching both .... and soccer/futbol and 24 hours of LeMans too

Re: OT WORLD CUP 2010 in South Africa - the IORR thread
Posted by: Gazza ()
Date: June 13, 2010 23:33

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Mister J
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Rolling Hansie
Alright Jean, but you like football ?

Don't care about sports. I am french, and french football team is a shame, they stole Ireland place in world cup. I care about music.

IORR should care about music, too.

No they didnt. Ireland were never in a position where they were 'robbed' of qualifying.

Re: OT WORLD CUP 2010 in South Africa - the IORR thread
Posted by: MacPhisto ()
Date: June 13, 2010 23:35

That was the best match of the championship so far. Germany played really well and it was absolutely fun to watch this.
Only negative aspect of the game was that unnecessary red card for the Australian player. Otherwise, Germany has played best so far imo (but some great teams are still to come, of course).

Re: OT WORLD CUP 2010 in South Africa - the IORR thread
Posted by: sweetcharmedlife ()
Date: June 13, 2010 23:36

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71Tele
Quote
andy js
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sweetcharmedlife
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andy js
My old ma always said to me, If you don't like football or AC/DC you're either gay or American
Is that supposed to be funny?


I don't think she was joking to be honest

Well, I'm American, love "football", hate ACDC, so does that mean I'm half-Gay?
No I think it was all stupid of Andy to make that post in the first place.

Re: OT WORLD CUP 2010 in South Africa - the IORR thread
Posted by: Max'sKansasCity ()
Date: June 13, 2010 23:37

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MacPhisto
That was the best match of the championship so far. Germany played really well and it was absolutely fun to watch this.
Only negative aspect of the game was that unnecessary red card for the Australian player. Otherwise, Germany has played best so far imo (but some great teams are still to come, of course).
The set up and scoring of the 4th point was spectacular, very fun to watch.

Re: OT WORLD CUP 2010 in South Africa - the IORR thread
Posted by: 71Tele ()
Date: June 13, 2010 23:45

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Max'sKansasCity
Quote
71Tele
I make my living in baseball, and love it.......
You make your living playing baseball? that sounds fun, what do you do?

If you are a baseball expert I have a baseball question maybe you can answer.

What is the origin and logic about the rule regarding;
when the batter has 2 stikes, and then swings and
misses at what would be strike three YOU ARE OUT,
BUT if/when the catcher does not control the ball,
and it rolls away, then the batter can run to first base,
and if he gets there before the catcher can throw him out, he is safe.

Why is this not allowed on the first 2 strikes?
why is the batter not out the moment he swings and misses?
When, why and what incident inspired the creation of this rule?



In football; the most spectacular plays are made on offense,
In baseball; the most spectacular plays are made on defense.
I like watching both .... and soccer/futbol and 24 hours of LeMans too

This is indeed the most obscure rule in baseball. It cost the Brooklyn Dodgers the World Series against the New York Yankees one time. The reason is this (basically): In order to record a "putout" the catcher must catch the ball cleanly in his glove. If he does not, the ball is "live" and the batter may try to reach first base. If the batter is successful, the catcher is charged an error, the pitcher is credited with a strikeout (though there is no actual out against the hitting team). To make this stranger still, the batter may only try for first if first base is unoccupied. However if there is a runner on first base and the catcher does not catch the ball cleanly, the runner (and any other runners) may try to advance. Unless of course there are already two outs. Is that clear? confused smiley..I don't play baseball for a living. I make and research historical baseball uniforms.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2010-06-13 23:56 by 71Tele.

Re: OT WORLD CUP 2010 in South Africa - the IORR thread
Posted by: 71Tele ()
Date: June 13, 2010 23:48

By the way, for you Aussies out there, I simply love Aussie Rules football! Back when USA cable sports network ESPN started, theye did not have any major league TV contracts and they showed hours and hours of Aussie Rules. My bandmates and I would imbibe in some marijuana (this was the mid-80s) and watch hours of Aussie Rules. "One behind" indeed.

Re: OT WORLD CUP 2010 in South Africa - the IORR thread
Posted by: sweetcharmedlife ()
Date: June 14, 2010 00:04

Seems like the Vuvuzela may be silenced soon:
The soundtrack to the World Cup has been a steady buzz, but the noise could soon be coming to an end.

South Africa's World Cup organizing chief Danny Jordaan said Sunday there is a chance vuvuzelas may be banned from inside stadiums after numerous complaints, BBC News has reported.


Asked whether he'd consider getting rid of the trumpets, he said: "If there are grounds to do so, yes. We did say that if any land on the pitch in anger we will take action."


France captain Patrice Evra has already blamed the noise generated by the vuvuzelas for his team's poor showing in its opening 0-0 draw with Uruguay.

"We can't sleep at night because of the vuvuzelas," Evra said. "People start playing them from 6 a.m. We can't hear one another out on the pitch because of them."

Jordaan said organizers are doing everything possible.

"We've tried to get some order," Jordaan said. "We have asked for no vuvuzelas during national anthems or stadium announcements. It's difficult, but we're trying to manage the best we can."

Re: OT WORLD CUP 2010 in South Africa - the IORR thread
Posted by: mickscarey ()
Date: June 14, 2010 00:11

It is totally ruining the braodcast. But then, so far no big deal as these games are so boring so far. How about a 6-5 games!!!! Yeahhh!

Re: OT WORLD CUP 2010 in South Africa - the IORR thread
Posted by: electricmud ()
Date: June 14, 2010 00:12

Best game so far: Germany GOOOOOOO!! Germany is a big party-zone! What a great team. Yeah!

Re: OT WORLD CUP 2010 in South Africa - the IORR thread
Posted by: The Stones ()
Date: June 14, 2010 00:15

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andy js
My old ma always said to me, If you don't like football or AC/DC you're either gay or American

That's quite funny, because my ma always said to me that AC/DC died with Bon Scott and people who don't get that are pathetic losers.

Re: OT WORLD CUP 2010 in South Africa - the IORR thread
Posted by: 71Tele ()
Date: June 14, 2010 00:15

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electricmud
Best game so far: Germany GOOOOOOO!! Germany is a big party-zone! What a great team. Yeah!

Or what a weak team Australia is...nice game though by the Germans.

Re: OT WORLD CUP 2010 in South Africa - the IORR thread
Posted by: Max'sKansasCity ()
Date: June 14, 2010 00:27

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71Tele
Is that clear? confused smiley..I don't play baseball for a living. I make and research historical baseball uniforms.

That is as good as I have ever heard : )

Baseball has so many lttle things about it,
that there is an almost never ending list of
exceptions to the rules which discourage people.
Several movies have had funny scenes where someone
is try to explain the game, and it is just too deep and long and exceptions, pretty funny.

In the summertime I love having a baseball game on in the back ground.
Listening to Vin Scully call a Dodgers game (solo) is amazingly soothing.
Games can be so boring or so exciting, but long ago I stopped trying
to convince anyone to like baseball, it makes no difference to me what
they like or dont
..... but watching someone bunt on, and then steal second and then...
or witnessing an inside the park homerun ...... or watching a catcher succesfullly
hold onto the ball as he is creamed by a guy slamming into him barreling in
from third base..... or watching one of your guys knock that sucker out and
then drop the ball scoring the winning run ..... or seeing guys try to play
balls off the green monster ...... or ....... but this is about world cup.. GO WORLD ...... it has been great so far ..

Re: OT WORLD CUP 2010 in South Africa - the IORR thread
Posted by: kleermaker ()
Date: June 14, 2010 00:29

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71Tele

To sum up, I would say that foreigners who criticize baseball as "boring" are just as guilty of shallowness as Americans who criticize soccer for being "low scoring".

I wouldn't call baseball boring, but sometimes, when the teams are changing positions for instance and during 'dead moments', it's a bit slow. One has to understand the rules to appreciate it. Many depends on the quality of the pitcher and it's often hard to judge if someone has reached the base or is out. Btw: the Dutch baseball team isn't that bad, they have once or twice beaten the Americans and Cubans if I remember well. As for football: sometimes a game is boring like hell, sometimes it's exciting like something very exciting. When the Dutch team is on fire the beauty of the game is visible even for those who don't like football. People here are not satisfied with 'winning ugly'.

PS: Nice to know your profession, Tele. Btw: Job did miss the boat by two of 150 seats. His party is the second biggest, only one seat smaller than the biggest (conservative liberal) party which has only 31 of 150). The difference was about sixty thousand votes. Not very easy to make a stable government now.

Re: OT WORLD CUP 2010 in South Africa - the IORR thread
Posted by: Anonymous User ()
Date: June 14, 2010 00:48

The best American sportsmen were Bobby Fischer and Cassius Clay...smoking smiley









Re: OT WORLD CUP 2010 in South Africa - the IORR thread
Posted by: 71Tele ()
Date: June 14, 2010 00:54

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Max'sKansasCity
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71Tele
Is that clear? confused smiley..I don't play baseball for a living. I make and research historical baseball uniforms.

That is as good as I have ever heard : )

Baseball has so many lttle things about it,
that there is an almost never ending list of
exceptions to the rules which discourage people.
Several movies have had funny scenes where someone
is try to explain the game, and it is just too deep and long and exceptions, pretty funny.

In the summertime I love having a baseball game on in the back ground.
Listening to Vin Scully call a Dodgers game (solo) is amazingly soothing.
Games can be so boring or so exciting, but long ago I stopped trying
to convince anyone to like baseball, it makes no difference to me what
they like or dont
..... but watching someone bunt on, and then steal second and then...
or witnessing an inside the park homerun ...... or watching a catcher succesfullly
hold onto the ball as he is creamed by a guy slamming into him barreling in
from third base..... or watching one of your guys knock that sucker out and
then drop the ball scoring the winning run ..... or seeing guys try to play
balls off the green monster ...... or ....... but this is about world cup.. GO WORLD ...... it has been great so far ..

Yes, the sound of Vin Scully calling a game is music. Where I grew up, it was Lyndsey Nelson, Bob Murphy and Ralph Kiner for the Mets. That sound and rhythm gets into your blood.Baseball can be enjoyed in the background to doing something else, or you can be at the ballpark hanging on every pitch. That's what I love about it.

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