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I hope for "All the rage" Kevin Parker remix.
Thought there was reference to track 12 being another Jimmy Page contribution.
[www.Amazon.com] says so, but as mentioned on [Music.Apple.com] too, the runtime of Track 12 is only 3m:14s wich would be quite short for a Remix of 'All The Rage' ....
Rick Grech: Bass Guitar - [www.Qobuz.com] - (i)-Button. These credits by Polydor ain't correct - see below: [iorr.org] - it was Dave Hartley.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2020-08-16 17:25 by Irix.
The frontman in the band War On Drugs did the remix, Chris.
I actually thought that was part of the song title.
We don’t want or need a remix of what will be All The Rage. Please something different even a 3:14 jam
Dave Hartley,
see here (german)
[www.rollingstone.de]
I hope for Kevin Parker to get let loose with the stones, period.
A post above says :
Rick Grech: Bass Guitar - [www.Qobuz.com] - (i)-Button.
I guess you asked for the remix:
Rick Grech: original version
Dave Hartley; war-on-drugs-remix
Maybe a third one played the single-version which is different too.
Grech on the original recording. Hartley added bass to the War On Drugs-remix.
Great Clarification! Thanks!!
So the credits by Universal Music are still not reliable - [www.YouTube.com] , [www.YouTube.com] ....
Rolling Stones: „Scarlet“-Remix with The War On Drugs
Svenja Nowak · 14.08.2020
After the Rolling Stones released their new old song "Scarlet", a remix followed, which was produced together with The War On Drugs.
Last month the Rolling Stones released "Scarlet", a song they recorded together with Jimmy Page in 1974. After a music video with "Normal People" actor Paul Mescal was released, the third strike followed: A "Scarlet" remix with The War On Drugs.
The War On Drugs are in the process of writing new songs, so a Stones remix was apparently a welcome change - and an honour. As frontman Adam Granduciel revealed, they imagined that Mick Jagger, Keith Richards and Jimmy Page were in the room when the band worked on the remix.
Imagining themselves in a room with Jimmy Page...
"After playing around on my Linn drum, the song fell into this double-time-thing and I just went with it," Granduciel says. "I called my friend and band mate, Dave Hartley, to record the bass for the new groove. Then I figured if Jimmy Page was in the room, I'd probably ask him to plug in my favourite flanger, and that's what I did. My friend Anthony LaMarca added some last minute percussion."
The new remix strengthens the guitar of the original version and adds some drums in the background. "Scarlet" is one of ten bonus tracks that will appear on the deluxe version of the album "Goats Head Soup". The Reissue will be released on September 04th. -- [www.RollingStone.de]
Never reliable.
Wonder now if the mysterious track 12 is the original, "original" of Scarlet ..
No.
It was produced with Jimmy Miller - [www.Discogs.com] .
Ronnie had nothing to do with it, though some have suggested it sounds more like a Ronnie solo tune than a Stones tune - I'd have to agree.
Evidently Mick contributed nothing to the original version - he says he might have been there at the time, but gives no details and his memories are blurry.
And if memory serves,Jimmy Page in his detailed explanation gave no indication Mick was anywhere near the studio or had any involvement.
Yes the Stones need new material, and at the risk of being flogged, I fully agree that Mick is flogging a dead horse - seems unprecedented how much time and energy is going in to this,
especially considering it was a non-Stones jam throwaway involving Keith and Page that's nearly over 45 years old.
Yes, even though Scarlet is an oddball enigma, I'd fully agree with this, but still wondering where this version will be available.
Seems obvious it should be he 7" vinyl single, but as someone else mentioned this mess is so convoluted it''s hard to know fact from fiction.
If it were available as a 7" on it's own, still on the fence leaning towards a no, but it would be tempting as I love vinyl.
__________________________________________________________________________
"After playing around on my Linn drum, the song fell into this double-time-thing and I just went with it," - Adam Granduciel.
Odd decision IMO - the fast double-time-drum-machine, along with the addition of the new speedy bass line...
well it sort of ended up sounding similar to the theme song to the Benny Hill show on steroids. - Benny Hill theme
_____________________________________________________________
Rip this joint, gonna save your soul, round and round and round we go......
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Re: Scarlet
Posted by:
MisterDDDD
()
Date: August 16, 2020 02:33
I'm liking the War On Drugs remix.. great fuller sound and overall feels the most complete of the versions.
Of the three main versions I would rank the first version my favorite, followed by this WOD remix.
Interesting to note, on Apple Music, they used to list two untitled songs on the Deluxe edition (tracks 11 & 12) disc2. I see now that they have filled in the title of track 11 with Scarlet WOD remix..
Real curious to see what track 12 will be.. perhaps I've missed something where that has already been deciphered or known..
Perhaps an eventual "All The Rage" remix?
Of the three main versions I would rank the first version my favorite, followed by this WOD remix.
Interesting to note, on Apple Music, they used to list two untitled songs on the Deluxe edition (tracks 11 & 12) disc2. I see now that they have filled in the title of track 11 with Scarlet WOD remix..
Real curious to see what track 12 will be.. perhaps I've missed something where that has already been deciphered or known..
Perhaps an eventual "All The Rage" remix?
Re: Scarlet
Posted by:
KRiffhard
()
Date: August 16, 2020 08:38
Quote
MisterDDDD
I'm liking the War On Drugs remix.. great fuller sound and overall feels the most complete of the versions.
Of the three main versions I would rank the first version my favorite, followed by this WOD remix.
Interesting to note, on Apple Music, they used to list two untitled songs on the Deluxe edition (tracks 11 & 12) disc2. I see now that they have filled in the title of track 11 with Scarlet WOD remix..
Real curious to see what track 12 will be.. perhaps I've missed something where that has already been deciphered or known..
Perhaps an eventual "All The Rage" remix?
I hope for "All the rage" Kevin Parker remix.
Re: Scarlet
Posted by:
Maindefender
()
Date: August 16, 2020 10:51
Quote
MisterDDDD
I'm liking the War On Drugs remix.. great fuller sound and overall feels the most complete of the versions.
Of the three main versions I would rank the first version my favorite, followed by this WOD remix.
Interesting to note, on Apple Music, they used to list two untitled songs on the Deluxe edition (tracks 11 & 12) disc2. I see now that they have filled in the title of track 11 with Scarlet WOD remix..
Real curious to see what track 12 will be.. perhaps I've missed something where that has already been deciphered or known..
Perhaps an eventual "All The Rage" remix?
Thought there was reference to track 12 being another Jimmy Page contribution.
Re: Scarlet
Posted by:
Irix
()
Date: August 16, 2020 12:20
Quote
Maindefender
Thought there was reference to track 12 being another Jimmy Page contribution.
[www.Amazon.com] says so, but as mentioned on [Music.Apple.com] too, the runtime of Track 12 is only 3m:14s wich would be quite short for a Remix of 'All The Rage' ....
Re: Scarlet
Posted by:
Chris Fountain
()
Date: August 16, 2020 13:52
I think the War on Drugs is better more enriching version. By the way who is playing bass? Sounds a little strange.
Re: Scarlet
Posted by:
Irix
()
Date: August 16, 2020 14:05
Quote
Chris Fountain
By the way who is playing bass?
Rick Grech: Bass Guitar - [www.Qobuz.com] - (i)-Button. These credits by Polydor ain't correct - see below: [iorr.org] - it was Dave Hartley.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2020-08-16 17:25 by Irix.
Re: Scarlet
Posted by:
Chris Fountain
()
Date: August 16, 2020 14:13
What is the statement they are trying to convey with the title "War on Drugs"?
Re: Scarlet
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
()
Date: August 16, 2020 14:15
Quote
Chris Fountain
What is the statement they are trying to convey with the title "War on Drugs"?
The frontman in the band War On Drugs did the remix, Chris.
Re: Scarlet
Posted by:
Chris Fountain
()
Date: August 16, 2020 14:19
Quote
DandelionPowdermanQuote
Chris Fountain
What is the statement they are trying to convey with the title "War on Drugs"?
The frontman in the band War On Drugs did the remix, Chris.
I actually thought that was part of the song title.
Re: Scarlet
Posted by:
Maindefender
()
Date: August 16, 2020 14:22
Quote
IrixQuote
Maindefender
Thought there was reference to track 12 being another Jimmy Page contribution.
[www.Amazon.com] says so, but as mentioned on [Music.Apple.com] too, the runtime of Track 12 is only 3m:14s wich would be quite short for a Remix of 'All The Rage' ....
We don’t want or need a remix of what will be All The Rage. Please something different even a 3:14 jam
Re: Scarlet
Posted by:
TravelinMan
()
Date: August 16, 2020 15:01
Probably an instrumental of Scarlet or another remix if it features Page.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2020-08-16 15:01 by TravelinMan.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2020-08-16 15:01 by TravelinMan.
Re: Scarlet
Posted by:
deardoctor
()
Date: August 16, 2020 15:45
Quote
Chris Fountain
I think the War on Drugs is better more enriching version. By the way who is playing bass? Sounds a little strange.
Dave Hartley,
see here (german)
[www.rollingstone.de]
Re: Scarlet
Posted by:
Captainchaos
()
Date: August 16, 2020 15:55
Quote
KRiffhardQuote
MisterDDDD
I'm liking the War On Drugs remix.. great fuller sound and overall feels the most complete of the versions.
Of the three main versions I would rank the first version my favorite, followed by this WOD remix.
Interesting to note, on Apple Music, they used to list two untitled songs on the Deluxe edition (tracks 11 & 12) disc2. I see now that they have filled in the title of track 11 with Scarlet WOD remix..
Real curious to see what track 12 will be.. perhaps I've missed something where that has already been deciphered or known..
Perhaps an eventual "All The Rage" remix?
I hope for "All the rage" Kevin Parker remix.
I hope for Kevin Parker to get let loose with the stones, period.
Re: Scarlet
Posted by:
Chris Fountain
()
Date: August 16, 2020 15:59
Quote
deardoctorQuote
Chris Fountain
I think the War on Drugs is better more enriching version. By the way who is playing bass? Sounds a little strange.
Dave Hartley,
see here (german)
[www.rollingstone.de]
A post above says :
Rick Grech: Bass Guitar - [www.Qobuz.com] - (i)-Button.
Re: Scarlet
Posted by:
deardoctor
()
Date: August 16, 2020 16:56
Quote
Chris FountainQuote
deardoctorQuote
Chris Fountain
I think the War on Drugs is better more enriching version. By the way who is playing bass? Sounds a little strange.
Dave Hartley,
see here (german)
[www.rollingstone.de]
A post above says :
Rick Grech: Bass Guitar - [www.Qobuz.com] - (i)-Button.
I guess you asked for the remix:
Rick Grech: original version
Dave Hartley; war-on-drugs-remix
Maybe a third one played the single-version which is different too.
Re: Scarlet
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
()
Date: August 16, 2020 16:59
Quote
Chris FountainQuote
deardoctorQuote
Chris Fountain
I think the War on Drugs is better more enriching version. By the way who is playing bass? Sounds a little strange.
Dave Hartley,
see here (german)
[www.rollingstone.de]
A post above says :
Rick Grech: Bass Guitar - [www.Qobuz.com] - (i)-Button.
Grech on the original recording. Hartley added bass to the War On Drugs-remix.
Re: Scarlet
Posted by:
Chris Fountain
()
Date: August 16, 2020 17:04
Quote
DandelionPowdermanQuote
Chris FountainQuote
deardoctorQuote
Chris Fountain
I think the War on Drugs is better more enriching version. By the way who is playing bass? Sounds a little strange.
Dave Hartley,
see here (german)
[www.rollingstone.de]
A post above says :
Rick Grech: Bass Guitar - [www.Qobuz.com] - (i)-Button.
Grech on the original recording. Hartley added bass to the War On Drugs-remix.
Great Clarification! Thanks!!
Re: Scarlet
Posted by:
Irix
()
Date: August 16, 2020 17:25
Quote
DandelionPowderman
Grech on the original recording. Hartley added bass to the War On Drugs-remix.
So the credits by Universal Music are still not reliable - [www.YouTube.com] , [www.YouTube.com] ....
Re: Scarlet
Posted by:
Irix
()
Date: August 16, 2020 17:50
Rolling Stones: „Scarlet“-Remix with The War On Drugs
Svenja Nowak · 14.08.2020
After the Rolling Stones released their new old song "Scarlet", a remix followed, which was produced together with The War On Drugs.
Last month the Rolling Stones released "Scarlet", a song they recorded together with Jimmy Page in 1974. After a music video with "Normal People" actor Paul Mescal was released, the third strike followed: A "Scarlet" remix with The War On Drugs.
The War On Drugs are in the process of writing new songs, so a Stones remix was apparently a welcome change - and an honour. As frontman Adam Granduciel revealed, they imagined that Mick Jagger, Keith Richards and Jimmy Page were in the room when the band worked on the remix.
Imagining themselves in a room with Jimmy Page...
"After playing around on my Linn drum, the song fell into this double-time-thing and I just went with it," Granduciel says. "I called my friend and band mate, Dave Hartley, to record the bass for the new groove. Then I figured if Jimmy Page was in the room, I'd probably ask him to plug in my favourite flanger, and that's what I did. My friend Anthony LaMarca added some last minute percussion."
The new remix strengthens the guitar of the original version and adds some drums in the background. "Scarlet" is one of ten bonus tracks that will appear on the deluxe version of the album "Goats Head Soup". The Reissue will be released on September 04th. -- [www.RollingStone.de]
Re: Scarlet
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
()
Date: August 16, 2020 17:51
Quote
IrixQuote
DandelionPowderman
Grech on the original recording. Hartley added bass to the War On Drugs-remix.
So the credits by Universal Music are still not reliable - [www.YouTube.com] , [www.YouTube.com] ....
Never reliable.
Re: Scarlet
Posted by:
Four Stone Walls
()
Date: August 16, 2020 18:22
Good idea! Let's drink to the salt of the earth.
Personally, I don't know how many versions/remixes of this track we need, especially ones with dodgy videos of current actors.
I'd love to hear the original version and to know if it was a Ronnie basement track and what he contributed and what, if anything Mick originally contributed.
As someone wisely said above, what the Stones need is new material to keep them current.
Mick is flogging a dead horse here.
As he he himself once said: "Get up,get out, down into something New".
Stalin and Roosevelt both took their chances. Don't Hold Back.
Look to the future now, it's only just begun.
Cheers.
Personally, I don't know how many versions/remixes of this track we need, especially ones with dodgy videos of current actors.
I'd love to hear the original version and to know if it was a Ronnie basement track and what he contributed and what, if anything Mick originally contributed.
As someone wisely said above, what the Stones need is new material to keep them current.
Mick is flogging a dead horse here.
As he he himself once said: "Get up,get out, down into something New".
Stalin and Roosevelt both took their chances. Don't Hold Back.
Look to the future now, it's only just begun.
Cheers.
Re: Scarlet
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
()
Date: August 16, 2020 18:51
<to know if it was a Ronnie basement track and what he contributed and what, if anything Mick originally contributed>
Ronnie was away on tour with the Faces. Allegedly, Mick wasn't involved back then.
Ronnie was away on tour with the Faces. Allegedly, Mick wasn't involved back then.
Re: Scarlet
Posted by:
MisterDDDD
()
Date: August 16, 2020 19:40
Quote
IrixQuote
Maindefender
Thought there was reference to track 12 being another Jimmy Page contribution.
[www.Amazon.com] says so, but as mentioned on [Music.Apple.com] too, the runtime of Track 12 is only 3m:14s wich would be quite short for a Remix of 'All The Rage' ....
Wonder now if the mysterious track 12 is the original, "original" of Scarlet ..
Re: Scarlet
Posted by:
deardoctor
()
Date: August 16, 2020 20:26
Didn't Jimmy Page played on THROUGH THE LONELY NIGHTS as well?
Maybe an early version on track 12...
Maybe an early version on track 12...
Re: Scarlet
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
()
Date: August 16, 2020 20:41
Quote
deardoctor
Didn't Jimmy Page played on THROUGH THE LONELY NIGHTS as well?
Maybe an early version on track 12...
No.
Re: Scarlet
Posted by:
Irix
()
Date: August 16, 2020 20:45
Quote
deardoctor
Didn't Jimmy Page played on THROUGH THE LONELY NIGHTS as well?
It was produced with Jimmy Miller - [www.Discogs.com] .
Re: Scarlet
Posted by:
Hairball
()
Date: August 16, 2020 21:00
Quote
Four Stone Walls
Good idea! Let's drink to the salt of the earth.
Personally, I don't know how many versions/remixes of this track we need, especially ones with dodgy videos of current actors.
I'd love to hear the original version and to know if it was a Ronnie basement track and what he contributed and what, if anything Mick originally contributed.
As someone wisely said above, what the Stones need is new material to keep them current.
Mick is flogging a dead horse here.
As he he himself once said: "Get up,get out, down into something New".
Stalin and Roosevelt both took their chances. Don't Hold Back.
Look to the future now, it's only just begun.
Cheers.
Ronnie had nothing to do with it, though some have suggested it sounds more like a Ronnie solo tune than a Stones tune - I'd have to agree.
Evidently Mick contributed nothing to the original version - he says he might have been there at the time, but gives no details and his memories are blurry.
And if memory serves,Jimmy Page in his detailed explanation gave no indication Mick was anywhere near the studio or had any involvement.
Yes the Stones need new material, and at the risk of being flogged, I fully agree that Mick is flogging a dead horse - seems unprecedented how much time and energy is going in to this,
especially considering it was a non-Stones jam throwaway involving Keith and Page that's nearly over 45 years old.
Yes, even though Scarlet is an oddball enigma, I'd fully agree with this, but still wondering where this version will be available.
Seems obvious it should be he 7" vinyl single, but as someone else mentioned this mess is so convoluted it''s hard to know fact from fiction.
If it were available as a 7" on it's own, still on the fence leaning towards a no, but it would be tempting as I love vinyl.
__________________________________________________________________________
"After playing around on my Linn drum, the song fell into this double-time-thing and I just went with it," - Adam Granduciel.
Odd decision IMO - the fast double-time-drum-machine, along with the addition of the new speedy bass line...
well it sort of ended up sounding similar to the theme song to the Benny Hill show on steroids. - Benny Hill theme
_____________________________________________________________
Rip this joint, gonna save your soul, round and round and round we go......
Re: Scarlet
Posted by:
retired_dog
()
Date: August 16, 2020 21:20
The more I listen to the The War On Drugs-Remix, the more I like it. It's now a coherent, catchy tune, maybe not exactly aimed at the purists, but then again, some of their greatest hits like Angie or Miss You were not exactly aimed at the purists, too...
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