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Well it's now available and sounds authentically ragged and aged

But if it is free in the UK: can someone post it on IORR?

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kleermaker

The vocals are absolutely in a minor key. "Hear the children singing...singing shalale"

To be fair, that part only uses A Major scale notes over A major - E major chord change.

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linnerz
But if it is free in the UK: can someone post it on IORR?

Yeah, I don't like being left out just because her Brittanic Majesty requests and requires that I not be allowed to download it for free...

USA is left out this time

What about Itunes?

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kleermaker

The vocals are absolutely in a minor key. "Hear the children singing...singing shalale"

To be fair, that part only uses A Major scale notes over A major - E major chord change.

Do you say the vocals aren't mainly in a minor key? I'm 100% sure they are. Compare these vocals with the Exile official ADTL vocals: those are in a major key. You can simply hear the difference and it gives a totally different feeling/effect as well. I can't be wrong on this one. If these vocals aren't in a minor key, then which are??



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2010-05-03 02:39 by kleermaker.

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linnerz
But if it is free in the UK: can someone post it on IORR?

Yeah, I don't like being left out just because her Brittanic Majesty requests and requires that I not be allowed to download it for free...

This isn't fair! We non-British Rolling Stones music fans deserve this free alternate ADTL download just as much as the British ones. So Brits, give it to us, please

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kleermaker
I can't be wrong on this one.

I just sat with a guitar and listened to the above version.

The part you singled out uses root, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th of A major scale over A major, E major with passing D major chord resolving back to A major.

One immediate difference between the above version and the exile version is that the main verse vocal melody on the acoustic version starts on the 3rd of A Major, whilst the exile version starts on the 5th of G Major.

So that's the differences between the two, but both are still using major key for the most part, with some bluesier notes being introduced during the bridges and later verses to varying degrees.

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kleermaker
I can't be wrong on this one.

I just sat with a guitar and listened to the above version.

The part you singled out uses root, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th of A major scale over A major, E major with passing D major chord resolving back to A major.

But the vocals HM, I just simply hear that they're in a minor key. Apart from the guitar. Tell me about the vocals, not about the guitar(s) please. You just can hear the half notes if you know what I mean.

What can any of the guitar players here tell us about the odd little bit at :16-:18 of the youtube sampler at the top of the thread? Very odd sounding for the Stones. (Also the slashing guitars are not yet in place for the "be my baby for tonight" section.)

Can't get this D/L in Canada either. Boooooo.

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kleermaker


But the vocals HM, I just simply hear that they're in a minor key. Apart from the guitar. Tell me about the vocals, not about the guitar(s) please. You just can hear the half notes if you know what I mean.

I'm on about the vocals, this is blues based music so obviously he plays with the notes a bit, bending them or quickly passing through.

The first notes he sings on the verse is Major 3rd. The ''yeah'' heard at the end of some phrases in the early verses is a kind of bend on C up to C#.

There is nothing in the whole song that goes beyond A Major or A minor pentatonic. There is clear use of Major 3rd of A Major as well as repeated further use of other notes from that scale.

So if there's a minor key being used there, I'd like to know what it is!?



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meh^^

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But the vocals HM, I just simply hear that they're in a minor key. Apart from the guitar. Tell me about the vocals, not about the guitar(s) please. You just can hear the half notes if you know what I mean.

I'm on about the vocals, this is blues based music so obviously he plays with the notes a bit, bending them or quickly passing through.

The first notes he sings on the verse is Major 3rd. The ''yeah'' in the early verses is a kind of bend on C up to C#.

There is nothing in the whole song that goes beyond A Major or D pentatonic. There is clear use of Major 3rd of A Major as well as repeated further use of other notes from that scale.

So if there's a minor key being used there, I'd like to know what it is!?

Me too, but again (sorry for being repetitive) the very beginning and the lines "See the women working" "Hear the children singing" "See the people running" etc. are in minor. The rest not. But the minor is very influential in this song. Like in Paint it black.

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meh^^

Well, who's helping the Dutch out?? This is pure injustice!

so its the acoustic version thats the free download?

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kleermaker

Me too, but again (sorry for being repetitive) the very beginning and the lines "See the women working" "Hear the children singing" "See the people running" etc. are in minor. The rest not. But the minor is very influential in this song. Like in Paint it black.

Nope...

Those parts use notes of A Major scale.

see the women working
C#. C#. C# D... C# B



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Well, who's helping the Dutch out?? This is pure injustice!

Amazon.nl even redirects to amazon.co.uk! I feel robbed!

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His Majesty

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kleermaker

Me too, but again (sorry for being repetitive) the very beginning and the lines "See the women working" "Hear the children singing" "See the people running" etc. are in minor. The rest not. But the minor is very influential in this song. Like in Paint it black.

Nope...

Those parts use notes of A Major scale.

see the women working
C#. C#. C# D... C# B

Yes I see, but in my musical language this is minor. C# to D is a half tone, and C# to B is 1,5 tone. That's exactly what I meant, perhaps using the wrong words. Thanks for your clear explanation, HM.

BTW: The atmosphere of these sentences (See the women working, Hear the children singing etc) is a bit tragic and sad, typical for minor. Absolutely not bright or cheeerful etc., which are the atmospheres belonging to Major.



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kleermaker

Yes I see, but in my musical language this is minor. C# to D is a half tone, and C# to B is 1,5 tone. That's exactly what I meant, perhaps using the wrong words. Thanks for your clear explanation, HM.

C# to B - 3rd to 2nd of A Major is whole/1 tone no?

To me all versions sound major and also bluesy, not minor.

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kleermaker

Yes I see, but in my musical language this is minor. C# to D is a half tone, and C# to B is 1,5 tone. That's exactly what I meant, perhaps using the wrong words. Thanks for your clear explanation, HM.

C# to B - 3rd to 2nd of A Major is whole/1 tone no?

To me all versions sound major and also bluesy, not minor.

Okay, but apart from the technical explanation, the atmosphere of these sentences is 'negative' (you understand me), while in the official ADTL that's absolutely not the case. There those sentences are 'objective': descriptive. What makes the difference in atmosphere between those two versions, because I think you agree there's an essential difference of atmosphere and feel between the two, caused by the 'notes'.

I can´t download. Sadly I live in Brazil.

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linnerz
But if it is free in the UK: can someone post it on IORR?

Yeah, I don't like being left out just because her Brittanic Majesty requests and requires that I not be allowed to download it for free...

This isn't fair! We non-British Rolling Stones music fans deserve this free alternate ADTL download just as much as the British ones. So Brits, give it to us, please

Can any of you kind UK'ers help this poor American soul?

kmbrochu@mac.com

I need a shot of salvation!

Many thanks!



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Can someone just put it on Youtube, too?

When the Plundered My Soul radio mp3 came out we had like 3 pages of e-mail requests.

Was hoping to get this today, but sadly looks like I can't. Congratulations to our UK brethren. I still don't see why a free download can't be had by all!

can someone email me this at chenry9195@gmail.com I would be very appreciative.

Thank you kindly



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2010-05-03 07:56 by U2Stonesfan.