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stones77
There is nothing in the whole song that goes beyond A Major or A minor pentatonic. There is clear use of Major 3rd of A Major as well as repeated further use of other notes from that scale...

....emphasizes the A Major scale more in its verse melody by way of the addition of the 5th and 6th notes of the scale. So that's 6 notes from A Major scale on the official version. The Exile melody actually begins on the 5th, where as the acoustic version only uses 4 notes, beginning on the 3rd.


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- yes, and I'm sure MJ and KR had this very discussion in the bar right after.

or not.

probably not.

Actually I am quite sure the change from pentatonic to major was a deliberate one. I am sure they wanted to "rock it up" and move it away from fairly standard blues and berrychucking Stones. I am sure Jagger or Richards suggested the change, and that Taylor followed by changing his lead lines from pentatonic to major.

By the way, it is fantastic the Stones finally started releasing stuff from the vaults, but thus version does leave much to desire. It is a bit half-baked, and there's not really much interesting going on. One might even call it a bit boring.

Mathijs

Oh come on, Mathjis, this is the BEST version ever, and you know it.

Very nice to get something from the vaults. But let's not get carried away. It's an unfinished sketch of the final product.

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gimme_shelter
Oh come on, Mathjis, this is the BEST version ever, and you know it.

I am rather sure that the best version is the one on album. I think it is the phenomenon of hearing something new and fresh in way too familiair tune that makes the impression of sounding like the best ever. If the now released version would have been in the original album and they would release the original released version NOW, we would be heaven now and asking what did they were thinking in 1972...

But I have to say that I find the earlier (?) acoustic version more interesting than this one (perhaps because it more far away from the finally released version)... Here is still some reminscant of it, especially in Jagger's delivery. Interesting to follow the conversation here concerning its scale.

I'm dying to hear more! It has been a fascinating period Rolling Stones fanwise!

- Doxa

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stones77
There is nothing in the whole song that goes beyond A Major or A minor pentatonic. There is clear use of Major 3rd of A Major as well as repeated further use of other notes from that scale...

....emphasizes the A Major scale more in its verse melody by way of the addition of the 5th and 6th notes of the scale. So that's 6 notes from A Major scale on the official version. The Exile melody actually begins on the 5th, where as the acoustic version only uses 4 notes, beginning on the 3rd.


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- yes, and I'm sure MJ and KR had this very discussion in the bar right after.

or not.

probably not.

Well, they clearly knew they had to define and make the melody stronger. So someone, probably Mick, has sat and worked on that melody.

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Doxa

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gimme_shelter
Oh come on, Mathjis, this is the BEST version ever, and you know it.

I am rather sure that the best version is the one on album. I think it is the phenomenon of hearing something new and fresh in way too familiair tune that makes the impression of sounding like the best ever. If the now released version would have been in the original album and they would release the original released version NOW, we would be heaven now and asking what did they were thinking in 1972...

But I have to say that I find the earlier (?) acoustic version more interesting than this one ...

I'm dying to hear more! It has been a fascinating period Rolling Stones fanwise!

- Doxa

Agreed, Doxa.

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Britney
... But let's not get carried away. It's an unfinished sketch of the final product.

??.....we already have the"final product"...so why can't we "get carried away"
with the "unfinished sketch"?? unfinished works that show the growth of the songs are
extremely interesting (to most of us).

funny how people hope and wish for things from the vault..and then
when they are officially released....are now content with the finished song. i appreciate
alternate takes and all bootlegged material.


IORR............but I like it!

Keith likes to say that certain songs are siblings of other songs....according to Keith, what
songs are siblings to ALL DOWN THE LINE?


IORR............but I like it!

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sweet neo con
Keith likes to say that certain songs are siblings of other songs....according to Keith, what
songs are siblings to ALL DOWN THE LINE?

Wasn´t Silver Train dropped afer a couple of shows during the ´73 tour because
of this ?

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sweet neo con
Keith likes to say that certain songs are siblings of other songs....according to Keith, what
songs are siblings to ALL DOWN THE LINE?

Wasn´t Silver Train dropped afer a couple of shows during the ´73 tour because
of this ?

don't know...but usually the "sibling" songs are very similar musically. ADTL & ST might be
similar musically (especially alternates) but both have train imagery too....so that might justify dropping one
from a setlist.


IORR............but I like it!

Thanks for posting!

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sweetcharmedlife
Sounds liek a song that can be played a lot of different ways.

Absolutely. Plus, "All Down The Line" is one of the regular standarts in Jaggers pre-show warmup sessions with Chuck, and THAT version - just Jagger vocals and Chuck piano - is ABSOLUTE KILLER.

Can anyone help me with the song file? Rapishare link doesn't seem to work anymore.

Sorry, forgot to add an e-mail: pablorkcz@mac.com

Thankyou for helping me out.

Someone please send met the MP3?? I can't believe they are leaving out fans in places other than UK. I bought bloody Exile 5 times already and I can't believe i have to beg around for a freebie.

They should send Mick to Greece. Surely he would sort out the finances there.... Cheap SOB!

reiziger99@hotmail.com

Thanx for helping out!

The album version is much, much better. This sounds like an early draft for the original. When the Stones recorded it on EOMS, they finally settled on the correct version, probably after many attempts to get it right. This version sucks.

Can someone help me, please??
filoca@yahoo.it

Thanks!!!

Two people got at least one email

pretty please!!!

treaclefingers@gmail.com

I've purchased only 3 versions, 2 deluxe sets and the LP version, and I am similiarly trumped! (in addition to the FOUR other versions I already have!)

Need to hear this version!

Well, third email sent.

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kleermaker
Well, third email sent.

AND RECEIVED!!!

Thank you very much, sounds fantastic!

May I ask for this track too ?
Thanks in advance
)

[doctorstonesblog.blogspot.com]

well, I tried not to bother anybody but seems I need your help.

Thanks in advance for sending me the track at elmolewis69@libero.it.

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Thanks a lot!

RB

Edited away the begging.



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please mail me....

anpassungsfabrik@gmx.at

thank you very much in advance

Hey if anybody is still emailing this, I'd be so grateful for a copy of the song!

matthew1278@gmail.com

I believe it's

A Pedantic

Hi,

I hope someone can help me out also, please.

Got it, thanks a lot

cheers



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Would love to have this version as well, Can somebody help? Thx in advance. Frank.
Thx to you know who you are.



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Surely those of you not in the Uk can just download it from a Bit Torrent site - or am I missing something here?