So the updated amount spewing into the Gulf is now up to 60,000 barrels a day. Yet BP says it will be able to deal with 80,000 some in July.

So it's probably closer to 100,000 barrels a day. Let's see, take that times 55...

Exxon who?

[www.nola.com]

it was a cover up from moment one. there are ruptures up and down that pipeline spewing huge largely unreported plumes of unknown quantities in several other places. it's bait and switch with "news" coverage. let's remember who owns the "news" entertainment syndicates...
and who controls the ad revenue that supports them. literally supports their existence.
bp new commercials are a hoot. if u can detach yourself from the knowledge that these people are possibly committing genocide and getting rich while doing so....

anyway. plus the four thousand ppb of benzene and hydrogen sulfide not being reported by press. these are epa figures!! (Enviornmental Protection Agency) a fed agency...

allowable measure of these toxic poisons???
zero to FOUR parts per billion.
not FOUR THOUSAND parts per billion..

uh ohhh.... lot of people gonna get a surprise and no ones talkin' about much about it. yet.



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Sometimes you just feel like crying.

i don't mind mickscarey you are a known entity here and your scratches on the cultural papyrus are part of the story. people with your political points worshipped reagan who was the DEREGILATION wet dream of radical conservatives for decades. now look what u got.

u r an important demographic mickscarey. keep putting all the intelligence and perspective you can muster into every post. u are very easy to read as a person and dismiss as an opinion

Anone who is under the impression that BP are any worse than any other oil company operating in America is under a false impression. BP has been doing as much as any other company on safet of subsea systems.

That's not praise of BP but probably an indictment of all the other companies. This has happened to BP and there will need to be major changes to the way people drill so far down in light of this, but I KNOW from first hand experience about the safety regimes of most oil companies and BP are one of the better ones.

They will be prosecuted because the fact is that they didn't do enough to prevent it from happening (they are responsible because they are the duty holders even though it was probably Hilliburton and Transocean who caused it) and because they didn't have adequate contingency plans in place (exactly the same as all other oil companies).

I can't blame people for emotive reactions because it really is a terrible disaster. However, I would hope that some of the more ill informed comments on here could be countered by a little knowledge of what is really going on - not hyped up nationalistic biased media reports.

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Anone who is under the impression that BP are any worse than any other oil company operating in America is under a false impression. BP has been doing as much as any other company on safet of subsea systems.

That's not praise of BP but probably an indictment of all the other companies. This has happened to BP and there will need to be major changes to the way people drill so far down in light of this, but I KNOW from first hand experience about the safety regimes of most oil companies and BP are one of the better ones.

They will be prosecuted because the fact is that they didn't do enough to prevent it from happening (they are responsible because they are the duty holders even though it was probably Hilliburton and Transocean who caused it) and because they didn't have adequate contingency plans in place (exactly the same as all other oil companies).

I can't blame people for emotive reactions because it really is a terrible disaster. However, I would hope that some of the more ill informed comments on here could be countered by a little knowledge of what is really going on - not hyped up nationalistic biased media reports.

I believe you are totally correct. They've been allowed to operate this way for eons, and believe it is they're right to behave in any way they please. Only crime for them, is they've gotten caught.

Oh, and what a shock to find out Halliburton was involved...

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Anone who is under the impression that BP are any worse than any other oil company operating in America is under a false impression. BP has been doing as much as any other company on safet of subsea systems.

That's not praise of BP but probably an indictment of all the other companies. This has happened to BP and there will need to be major changes to the way people drill so far down in light of this, but I KNOW from first hand experience about the safety regimes of most oil companies and BP are one of the better ones.

They will be prosecuted because the fact is that they didn't do enough to prevent it from happening (they are responsible because they are the duty holders even though it was probably Hilliburton and Transocean who caused it) and because they didn't have adequate contingency plans in place (exactly the same as all other oil companies).

I can't blame people for emotive reactions because it really is a terrible disaster. However, I would hope that some of the more ill informed comments on here could be countered by a little knowledge of what is really going on - not hyped up nationalistic biased media reports.

I believe you are totally correct. They've been allowed to operate this way for eons, and believe it is they're right to behave in any way they please. Only crime for them, is they've gotten caught.

Oh, and what a shock to find out Halliburton was involved...

If we're all going to drive cars, turn on the lights and turn our sterios up then we all also have to accept our part in this tragedy as consumers of the black stuff.

The end result of this tragedy is that American and British pensions will be severely hit and that the price of oil will go up. Hopefully there will be a bigger push to renewables and we will learn to accept that oil prices must go up if we are to save the planet.

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Anone who is under the impression that BP are any worse than any other oil company operating in America is under a false impression. BP has been doing as much as any other company on safet of subsea systems.

That's not praise of BP but probably an indictment of all the other companies. This has happened to BP and there will need to be major changes to the way people drill so far down in light of this, but I KNOW from first hand experience about the safety regimes of most oil companies and BP are one of the better ones.

They will be prosecuted because the fact is that they didn't do enough to prevent it from happening (they are responsible because they are the duty holders even though it was probably Hilliburton and Transocean who caused it) and because they didn't have adequate contingency plans in place (exactly the same as all other oil companies).

I can't blame people for emotive reactions because it really is a terrible disaster. However, I would hope that some of the more ill informed comments on here could be countered by a little knowledge of what is really going on - not hyped up nationalistic biased media reports.

I believe you are totally correct. They've been allowed to operate this way for eons, and believe it is they're right to behave in any way they please. Only crime for them, is they've gotten caught.

Oh, and what a shock to find out Halliburton was involved...

If we're all going to drive cars, turn on the lights and turn our sterios up then we all also have to accept our part in this tragedy as consumers of the black stuff.

The end result of this tragedy is that American and British pensions will be severely hit and that the price of oil will go up. Hopefully there will be a bigger push to renewables and we will learn to accept that oil prices must go up if we are to save the planet.

Well, I think the biggest crime of all will be all the people in the gulf, who will get sick...maybe not immediately, but over time. The amount of pollution people are going to ultimately get exposed to is going to be staggering.

You can't quantify the human cost, but the economic cost, as a result of that, will be staggering, and will never be paid by BP.

BP has the worst track record safety wise and environment wise. PERIOD. Across the world. WAY MORE than any other big oil company. And yes, it is a goddamn shame that they have been able to get away with it/been allowed to continue in their ways. They have been a corrupt horrible company for a long time - and now they have to deal with their actions. Because all the corner cutting has caught up to their cheap ignorant careless arrogant ways.

And just so you can understand, Halliburton actually insisted on doing the right thing but was told to go home.

Let that one sink in and it gives one an idea of just how bad BP really has been and is.

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BP has the worst track record safety wise and environment wise. PERIOD. Across the world. WAY MORE than any other big oil company. And yes, it is a goddamn shame that they have been able to get away with it/been allowed to continue in their ways. They have been a corrupt horrible company for a long time - and now they have to deal with their actions. Because all the corner cutting has caught up to their cheap ignorant careless arrogant ways.

And just so you can understand, Halliburton actually insisted on doing the right thing but was told to go home.

Let that one sink in and it gives one an idea of just how bad BP really has been and is.

I can barely absorb that....Halliburton the 'good guy'?

Anyway, it's fairly plain to see there is a major crime going on here. I hope people get time for this...not that it will help the situation itself unfortunately.

By no means am I saying anything that Halliburton was the 'good guy' but something is obvious that even they knew that something was up and insisted on doing what is right.

After all, they are paid to do their job. As much as they've screwed things up, including Mobile Bay in Alabama, they were told to leave by BP. Had they conducted their testing, this whole thing possibly could have been avoided. There's more to it than that but that part of the job is a very very big reason for the failure of the controlling of the well.

And if this can help you have it sink in, along the Gulf Coast people are asking for FEMA to step in. THAT is how bad it is. And THAT is how bad BP has been.

..."the giant British company's chairman apologized to America for the worst spill in U.S. history."

As he should have.

[www.nola.com]

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By no means am I saying anything that Halliburton was the 'good guy' but something is obvious that even they knew that something was up and insisted on doing what is right.

After all, they are paid to do their job. As much as they've screwed things up, including Mobile Bay in Alabama, they were told to leave by BP. Had they conducted their testing, this whole thing possibly could have been avoided. There's more to it than that but that part of the job is a very very big reason for the failure of the controlling of the well.

And if this can help you have it sink in, along the Gulf Coast people are asking for FEMA to step in. THAT is how bad it is. And THAT is how bad BP has been.

As bad as it is right now, there is nowhere to go from here, but worse.

There is no way they will ever be able to clean up all that stuff, and the real effect of it will be long term...maybe decades of sickness, disease, for all living things in the Gulf.

At some point, BP will write an insanely huge cheque (although not huge enough), clearing themselves of any future obligations, and they will move on.

You'll then have to fend for yourselves...it's criminal.

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..."the giant British company's chairman apologized to America for the worst spill in U.S. history."

As he should have.

[www.nola.com]

He can apologize all he wants. What he needs to do is shut up and stop and take care of the oil leak. Can't believe he does'nt have some PR person to tell to just the hell up. Nothing good can come out of anything he says. If he has one sincere bone in his body,he needs to use it to clean this mess up.

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There is no way they will ever be able to clean up all that stuff, and the real effect of it will be long term...maybe decades of sickness, disease, for all living things in the Gulf.

I've been doing a lot of reading, watching and listening about this since I smell it everyday and worry about what it is doing to everything and what it will do if it gets to where I live and kills everything else. As of last week there were two figures being talked about: THREE generations until the Gulf is safe again and a total THREE HUNDRED YEARS until the oil is completely gone from the ecosystem. Given that the motherfucking well that can't be stopped for some lame BP reason is more likely spewing 100,000 barrels of oil a day then what is thought, which has been wrong all along yet alone lied about all along, I have every reason in the world to be bitter and not believe a motherfucking thing that little ponce Tony Hayward or any other cock sucker for BP says.

A lot of animals will die off and become extinct, at least in this region: Louisiana's entire Gulf Coast, which includes the region that I live upon, Lake Pontchartrain, the original Gulf Coast, as well as all the marshes, wetlands, bayous, estuaries and the delta, possibly forever, if not for a very long BPfucking time.

All due to some shitheads that don't care fuckall about life working for some shit sucking company that wanted to save a few million dollars for a company that makes BILLIONS. At this point if all of the CEOs and whatever other big heads for BP died I'd applaud. It would certainly make the death toll from this catastrophe sit better.

In a society as litigious as the US, I can only hope that as many people, businesses, society's and levels of government, as possible file lawsuits and bury that company. That and they pursue criminal charges and hold the board of directors personally liable for damages.

There is no way to make this right, but if they make sure it never happens again anywhere in the world then at least we've moved forward as a society.

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BP has the worst track record safety wise and environment wise. PERIOD. Across the world. WAY MORE than any other big oil company. And yes, it is a goddamn shame that they have been able to get away with it/been allowed to continue in their ways. They have been a corrupt horrible company for a long time - and now they have to deal with their actions. Because all the corner cutting has caught up to their cheap ignorant careless arrogant ways.

And just so you can understand, Halliburton actually insisted on doing the right thing but was told to go home.

Let that one sink in and it gives one an idea of just how bad BP really has been and is.

On what basis? I work in oil and gas industry specialising in safety and my conclusion is not the same as yours, having worked alngside many different companies. How much is your opinion based on personal knowledge, facts and figures and how much is based on hyped media reports and speculation?

What you say about Halliburton/BP is based on pure speculation. I doubt you even know what a BOP is, let alone how it works and what went wrong.

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There is no way they will ever be able to clean up all that stuff, and the real effect of it will be long term...maybe decades of sickness, disease, for all living things in the Gulf.

I've been doing a lot of reading, watching and listening about this since I smell it everyday and worry about what it is doing to everything and what it will do if it gets to where I live and kills everything else. As of last week there were two figures being talked about: THREE generations until the Gulf is safe again and a total THREE HUNDRED YEARS until the oil is completely gone from the ecosystem. Given that the motherfucking well that can't be stopped for some lame BP reason is more likely spewing 100,000 barrels of oil a day then what is thought, which has been wrong all along yet alone lied about all along, I have every reason in the world to be bitter and not believe a motherfucking thing that little ponce Tony Hayward or any other cock sucker for BP says.

A lot of animals will die off and become extinct, at least in this region: Louisiana's entire Gulf Coast, which includes the region that I live upon, Lake Pontchartrain, the original Gulf Coast, as well as all the marshes, wetlands, bayous, estuaries and the delta, possibly forever, if not for a very long BPfucking time.

All due to some shitheads that don't care fuckall about life working for some shit sucking company that wanted to save a few million dollars for a company that makes BILLIONS. At this point if all of the CEOs and whatever other big heads for BP died I'd applaud. It would certainly make the death toll from this catastrophe sit better.

In a society as litigious as the US, I can only hope that as many people, businesses, society's and levels of government, as possible file lawsuits and bury that company. That and they pursue criminal charges and hold the board of directors personally liable for damages.

There is no way to make this right, but if they make sure it never happens again anywhere in the world then at least we've moved forward as a society.

You can't even refute that bp has the worst track record.....since you're in the field, tell us point by point what is misstated or wrong. Knowledge is power...please enlighten us with your first hand knowledge...thank you.

Forbes June 15, 2010

25 Ideas To Change The World

Bianca Jagger: Crimes Against The Future

The Bianca Jagger Human Rights Foundation and the Centre for International Sustainable Development Law (CISDL) are advocating that The International Criminal Court's jurisdiction should be extended to cover crimes against future generations...

Although the threats to our survival and that of our planet and environment have become increasingly dire, they continue to fall outside the scope of the international criminal justice system. In order to address them, we must recognize a new type of crime: That which is committed against future generations...

During my three decades as a human rights and environmental advocate, I have taken part in countless campaigns against the reckless behavior of oil, gas and mining companies. I have often referred to their actions as "crimes against future generations" and called for their accountability...

The recent catastrophic oil spill off the Gulf of Mexico is another example of what could constitute a crime against future generations...

As the oil from the well site spreads, it's wiping out thousands of species along the Gulf Coast, one of the world's richest seafood grounds.

Chris Frid, a professor of marine biology at Liverpool University, has stated, "That part of the gulf's coastline consists of a sedimentary shore with lots of muddy inlets. The oil will penetrate into the mud, and because it contains no oxygen the oil will not biodegrade. For generations, any disturbance of the sediment will bring oil back to the surface and that will happen over a very large area."

President Obama has stated that he holds BP fully responsible: "BP will be paying the bill."

It would be easy if we could just "pay a bill" to restore the natural habitats, ecosystems, fauna and flora that human activity has destroyed. The "bill" is immeasurable.

We cannot buy our planet back. We must have a legally binding mechanism that prohibits companies from engaging in hazardous platform oil and natural gas drilling.

Crimes against future generations are crimes committed with knowledge of their severe consequences on the health, safety, or means of survival of future generations of humans, or of their threat to the survival of entire species or ecosystems.

Recognition of these acts as "crimes" would give future generations a voice and, more importantly, actionable rights which they currently lack.

Full article at: [www.forbes.com]

...in the meantime our Dear Leader keeps forming commissions and appointing czars and shaking down companies and otherwise accomplishing zip, nada, zero.

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...in the meantime our Dear Leader keeps forming commissions and appointing czars and shaking down companies and otherwise accomplishing zip, nada, zero.

Well, you get your chance to vote. I'm sure the "Whore of Babble On" would have pulled the Dutch in ASAP, to put their collective finger in the dike.

Speaking of bringing in the Dutch, if the government would waive/suspend the Jones Act, this would allow non-US ships to help w/ the cleanup. This was done for 3 weeks or so after Katrina. Currently only US ships are allowed in the area.

[en.wikipedia.org]

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Speaking of bringing in the Dutch, if the government would waive/suspend the Jones Act, this would allow non-US ships to help w/ the cleanup. This was done for 3 weeks or so after Katrina. Currently only US ships are allowed in the area.

[en.wikipedia.org]

Too many BS laws in the way. Too bad they can't just put someone in charge and get it done.

this is so sad to me. heartbreaking.


Sea creatures flee oil spill, gather near shore
By JAY REEVES, JOHN FLESHER and TAMARA LUSH (AP) – 5 hours ago

GULF SHORES, Ala. — Dolphins and sharks are showing up in surprisingly shallow water off Florida beaches, like forest animals fleeing a fire. Mullets, crabs, rays and small fish congregate by the thousands off an Alabama pier. Birds covered in oil are crawling deep into marshes, never to be seen again.

Marine scientists studying the effects of the BP disaster are seeing some strange phenomena.

Fish and other wildlife seem to be fleeing the oil out in the Gulf and clustering in cleaner waters along the coast in a trend that some researchers see as a potentially troubling sign.

The animals' presence close to shore means their usual habitat is badly polluted, and the crowding could result in mass die-offs as fish run out of oxygen. Also, the animals could easily be devoured by predators.

"A parallel would be: Why are the wildlife running to the edge of a forest on fire? There will be a lot of fish, sharks, turtles trying to get out of this water they detect is not suitable," said Larry Crowder, a Duke University marine biologist.

The nearly two-month-old spill has created an environmental catastrophe unparalleled in U.S. history as tens of millions of gallons of oil have spewed into the Gulf of Mexico ecosystem. Scientists are seeing some unusual things as they try to understand the effects on thousands of species of marine life.

Day by day, scientists in boats tally up dead birds, sea turtles and other animals, but the toll is surprisingly small given the size of the disaster. The latest figures show that 783 birds, 353 turtles and 41 mammals have died — numbers that pale in comparison to what happened after the Exxon Valdez disaster in Alaska in 1989, when 250,000 birds and 2,800 otters are believed to have died.

Researchers say there are several reasons for the relatively small death toll: The vast nature of the spill means scientists are able to locate only a small fraction of the dead animals. Many will never be found after sinking to the bottom of the sea or being scavenged by other marine life. And large numbers of birds are meeting their deaths deep in the Louisiana marshes where they seek refuge from the onslaught of oil.

"That is their understanding of how to protect themselves," said Doug Zimmer, spokesman for the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service.

For nearly four hours Monday, a three-person crew with Greenpeace cruised past delicate islands and mangrove-dotted inlets in Barataria Bay off southern Louisiana. They saw dolphins by the dozen frolicking in the oily sheen and oil-tinged pelicans feeding their young. But they spotted no dead animals.

"I think part of the reason why we're not seeing more yet is that the impacts of this crisis are really just beginning," Greenpeace marine biologist John Hocevar said.

The counting of dead wildlife in the Gulf is more than an academic exercise: The deaths will help determine how much BP pays in damages.

As for the fish, researchers are still trying to determine where exactly they are migrating to understand the full scope of the disaster, and no scientific consensus has emerged about the trend.

Mark Robson, director of the Division of Marine Fisheries Management with Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission, said his agency has yet to find any scientific evidence that fish are being adversely affected off his state's waters. He noted that it is common for fish to flee major changes in their environment, however.

In some areas along the coast, researchers believe fish are swimming closer to shore because the water is cleaner and more abundant in oxygen. Farther out in the Gulf, researchers say, the spill is not only tainting the water with oil but also depleting oxygen levels.

A similar scenario occurs during "dead zone" periods — the time during summer months when oxygen becomes so depleted that fish race toward shore in large numbers. Sometimes, so many fish gather close to the shoreline off Mobile that locals rush to the beach with tubs and nets to reap the harvest.

But this latest shore migration could prove deadly.

First, more oil could eventually wash ashore and overwhelm the fish. They could also become trapped between the slick and the beach, leading to increased competition for oxygen in the water and causing them to die as they run out of air.

"Their ability to avoid it may be limited in the long term, especially if in near-shore refuges they're crowding in close to shore, and oil continues to come in. At some point they'll get trapped," said Crowder, expert in marine ecology and fisheries. "It could lead to die-offs."

The fish could also fall victim to predators such as sharks and seabirds. Already there have been increased shark sightings in shallow waters along the Gulf Coast.

The migration of fish away from the oil spill can be good news for some coastal residents.

Tom Sabo has been fishing off Panama City, Fla., for years, and he's never seen the fishing better or the water any clearer than it was last weekend 16 to 20 miles off the coast. His fishing spot was far enough east that it wasn't affected by the pollution or federal restrictions, and it's possible that his huge catch of red snapper, grouper, king mackerel and amberjack was a result of fish fleeing the spill.

In Alabama, locals are seeing large schools hanging around piers where fishing has been banned, leading them to believe the fish feel safer now that they are not being disturbed by fishermen.

"We pretty much just got tired of catching fish," Sabo said. "It was just inordinately easy, and these were strong fish, nothing that was affected by oil. It's not just me. I had to wait at the cleaning table to clean fish."

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Speaking of bringing in the Dutch, if the government would waive/suspend the Jones Act, this would allow non-US ships to help w/ the cleanup. This was done for 3 weeks or so after Katrina. Currently only US ships are allowed in the area.

[en.wikipedia.org]

Too many BS laws in the way. Too bad they can't just put someone in charge and get it done.

I heard Billy Nungasser on CNN this morning saying the Coast Guard stopped some barges with trucks on them to suck up the oil,so they could check them for safety regulations. Thad Allen isn't helping anything at all.

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...in the meantime our Dear Leader keeps forming commissions and appointing czars and shaking down companies and otherwise accomplishing zip, nada, zero.

Well, you get your chance to vote. I'm sure the "Whore of Babble On" would have pulled the Dutch in ASAP, to put their collective finger in the dike.

Irrelevant. Obama is the one screwing the pooch in the here and now, shaking down BP to feed partisan slush funds, doing nothing of substance and parlaying this disaster to his political advantage as is transparently obvious. In America we are counting the days and hours til we get our chance to vote. Our emperor is obviously naked as a jaybird.



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For those fashionably beating up their neighbors and themselves and buying into the blather about "our addiction to fossil fuels," a bit of perspective, please. Besides being necessary to the function of virtually all of transportation oil is used in the production of lifesaving drugs and medicines, toiletries, moisturizers, paints, laquers, printing inks, packaging, candles, shoe polish, asphalt, linoleum, roofing shingles, electrodes, anodes (used to produce aluminum), detergents, petrochemical feedstock (used to produce intermediate compounds from which plastics are derived), synthetic fibers (in our clothing) and much more INCLUDING VINYL LPS and COMPACT DISCS.

No rational person is saying we shouldn't be developing every kind of alternative to oil possible but by the same token it's foolhardy to not seek out oil anywhere and everywhere we can do so. Banning offshore drilling may feel like "doing something" but the alternative is bringing oil to our shores in tankers and barges, both of which have safety records far worse statistically than drilling.

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There is no way they will ever be able to clean up all that stuff, and the real effect of it will be long term...maybe decades of sickness, disease, for all living things in the Gulf.

I've been doing a lot of reading, watching and listening about this since I smell it everyday and worry about what it is doing to everything and what it will do if it gets to where I live and kills everything else. As of last week there were two figures being talked about: THREE generations until the Gulf is safe again and a total THREE HUNDRED YEARS until the oil is completely gone from the ecosystem. Given that the motherfucking well that can't be stopped for some lame BP reason is more likely spewing 100,000 barrels of oil a day then what is thought, which has been wrong all along yet alone lied about all along, I have every reason in the world to be bitter and not believe a motherfucking thing that little ponce Tony Hayward or any other cock sucker for BP says.

A lot of animals will die off and become extinct, at least in this region: Louisiana's entire Gulf Coast, which includes the region that I live upon, Lake Pontchartrain, the original Gulf Coast, as well as all the marshes, wetlands, bayous, estuaries and the delta, possibly forever, if not for a very long BPfucking time.

All due to some shitheads that don't care fuckall about life working for some shit sucking company that wanted to save a few million dollars for a company that makes BILLIONS. At this point if all of the CEOs and whatever other big heads for BP died I'd applaud. It would certainly make the death toll from this catastrophe sit better.

In a society as litigious as the US, I can only hope that as many people, businesses, society's and levels of government, as possible file lawsuits and bury that company. That and they pursue criminal charges and hold the board of directors personally liable for damages.

There is no way to make this right, but if they make sure it never happens again anywhere in the world then at least we've moved forward as a society.

You can't even refute that bp has the worst track record.....since you're in the field, tell us point by point what is misstated or wrong. Knowledge is power...please enlighten us with your first hand knowledge...thank you.

OK, lets talk worst accidents in terms of people dead offshore:

Incident Fatalities
1. Piper Alpha, 167 dead
2. Alexander L. Kielland, 123 dead
Seacrest Drillship, 91 dead
4. Ocean Ranger, 84 dead
5. Glomar Java Sea Drillship, 81 dead
6. Bohai 2, 72 dead
7. Brent Field Chinook Helicopter, 45 dead
8. Enchova Central, 42 dead
9. C. P. Baker Drilling Barge, 22 dead
=9. Mumbai (Bombay) High North, 22 dead
=9. Usumacinta, 22 dead

So how many of those are BP operated?

Now let's move on to the worst blowouts (including volume of oil released). This obviously excludes the recent BP incident which was also caused by a blowout.

Five Worst Blowouts Volume Released
1. Sedco 135F and the IXTOC-1 Well, 3,500,000 barrels
2. Ekofisk Bravo Platform, 202,381 barrels
3. Funiwa No. 5 Well, 200,000 barrels
4. Hasbah Platform Well 6, 100,000 barrels
5. Union Oil Platform Alpha Well A-21, 80,000 barrels

So how many of those are BP operated?

Other noteable blowout incidents:

Adriatic IV
Al Baz
Arabdrill 19
Greenhill 250
C.P. Baker Drilling Barge
Enchova Central
Ensco 51
Ocean Odyssey
Petromar V
Sea Quest
West Vanguard

So how many of those are BP operated?

I'm sorry, but unless you can back up your statements with facts then it is just meaningless twaddle. Understandably, there is a lot of hysteria about this at the moment so it's no wonder that people end up being making ill-informed judgements. Once the dust settles, I'm sure we'll find that BP did do somethings wrong - the same with Halliburton and Transocean and the American regulator. However, the main thing that I hope for is that BP will work with others to help clear up as much mess as they can and that the US authorities learn the lessons that we learned after Piper Alpha and make sure that the regulator for safety is not in bed with the oil companies.

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...in the meantime our Dear Leader keeps forming commissions and appointing czars and shaking down companies and otherwise accomplishing zip, nada, zero.

Well, you get your chance to vote. I'm sure the "Whore of Babble On" would have pulled the Dutch in ASAP, to put their collective finger in the dike.

Irrelevant. Obama is the one screwing the pooch in the here and now, shaking down BP to feed partisan slush funds, doing nothing of substance and parlaying this disaster to his political advantage as is transparently obvious. In America we are counting the days and hours til we get our chance to vote. Our emperor is obviously naked as a jaybird.

So who would do betetr. Sarah "drill baby drill" Palin. That dumb bitch couldn't spell cat if you spotted her the c and the t.

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...in the meantime our Dear Leader keeps forming commissions and appointing czars and shaking down companies and otherwise accomplishing zip, nada, zero.

Well, you get your chance to vote. I'm sure the "Whore of Babble On" would have pulled the Dutch in ASAP, to put their collective finger in the dike.

Irrelevant. Obama is the one screwing the pooch in the here and now, shaking down BP to feed partisan slush funds, doing nothing of substance and parlaying this disaster to his political advantage as is transparently obvious. In America we are counting the days and hours til we get our chance to vote. Our emperor is obviously naked as a jaybird.

I don't think it's irrelevant. Sarah is the most knowledgeable person in America on energy, according to the leader of the GOP. Her plan is to call in the Dutch.

"in America we are counting the days"? What does this mean?

Dutch dredger (Van Oord) proposes dike to block Gulf oil spill (Reuters - May 7)...

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