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I promised not to talk about it.
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You've broken the promise already then.
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No,to be more precise on both sides.Please stick to the context!
The rest of the story is insignificant to me.Taylor is still a great part of the Stones
sound,and he proved it.He brings back the old genuine sound that is dearly missed by many Stoneslovers, and bashed by some people here.
Iam doing Taylor justice. Nothing wrong with that.
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There's one spot, some little lick and a riff, that sounds completely different from the rest of the track. Just that one spot.
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If A says it's so, I believe it. I am not hearing Keith on this track. I thought perhaps the opening strumming was Jagger, but either way it does not feel like Keith to me. Gee, Jagger and Taylor in the studio together without Keith. It is not like that has not ever happened before. It is an interesting event to reflect on. Seems like old times for those two?
The track feels cobbled together to me, but I would not mind hearing a fresh start performance of it.
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Iam doing Taylor justice. Nothing wrong with that.
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Mick Jagger, Mick Taylor reunite in studio after 36 years
2010-03-22 10:20:00
Singer Mick Jagger is set to reunite with former 'Rolling Stones' bandmember Mick Taylor in the studio - 36 years after the guitarist left the group.
Taylor joined the rockers in 1969, replacing Brian Jones in the line-up, but he left the group five years later in 1974 after allegedly falling out with Jagger and guitarist Keith Richards.
However, they are reportedly headed into the studio to work on a new re-mastered version of the Stones' 1972 album 'Exile On Main Street', reports contactmusic.com.
According to a source, Taylor is providing 'new guitar licks' to one of the songs on the album.
The source adds, 'He said he's been in the studio with Mick Jagger.
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if it's jagger on the open-G riffing guitar, is it old or new? If it's new, then what parts of the track are old?
It's Taylor left and right on this release,slip of the mouse in my previous post.
well, regardless--if the guitars are new, what existed in 1971?
Who cares?Taylor did this job,lead and rhythm,left and right.If the old tape was ok they would have released it a long time ago.
so if get what you're saying here then essentially mick and/or was came across this track in the vaults but either the tape was in poor condition or the original recording was in bad shape. so they cleaned up what they could with pro tools, but even so the original tape it was probably just a skeletal outline of the track (bass, drum, piano, horns) and then the two mick's overdubbed guitar and vox respectively, with keith adding a bit of acoustic for that "lift" to the sound he often speak about. is that a pretty accurate description of how PMS evolved?
I don't know in what shape the original tape was,but Mick T did the lead and rhythm,.I got this from a well informed source.
BTW Taylor is capable enough to sound like Keith,
Here I draw the line.
so who is this source you have? , sorry but I don't really put any stock into an 'unamed source', the rhythm sounds like 70's Keith and he is listed on the credits.
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Be grateful to A., now you know the truth.
I don't care about the track, nor the supposed truth about who played the guitar parts.
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Then why do you waste your time commenting on it?
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I believe that if Mick Taylor had been working on a Stones project in 2009 we would know about it. .
We do. Someone (I forget who) broke the story several weeks ago that he'd added some overdubs. There were a few cynics at the time, but it turned out he was almost certanly right.
And in this day and age with the magic of pro tools its quite easy for someone to be involved on a record without going near a studio or the music industry being aware of it.
I could swear Jagger himself talked about "bringing in" MT for some overdubs in an interview he gave recently, I can't remember exactly when or where but I know I did read it somewhere, possibly on Shidoobee.
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Mathijs
The notion that Taylor plays the open G rythm track is utter crap. No matter how 'well-informed' or 'secretive' it all is, but that's not Taylor on the rythm guitar, nor is it Jagger. That's Keith, and it is recorded during GHS sessions.
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The notion that Taylor plays the open G rythm track is utter crap. No matter how 'well-informed' or 'secretive' it all is, but that's not Taylor on the rythm guitar, nor is it Jagger. That's Keith, and it is recorded during GHS sessions.
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i agree 100% that is keith richards on rhythm , you can hear keith's distinctive sound .at first i thought taylor's lead was new but i have to agree with Mathijs that this was already in the can from before .ditto for the remark about tops .that is exactly the style and vein of taylor's lead same style like the riff from tops .Mathijs you are worth your weight in gold with this EXPERT analysis !!!!!!!!Quote
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It's obvious the rhythm guitar, bass and drums where recorded together and not separate. There's this push-pull interlocking between bass and drums and guitar and drums that's impossible to record as an overdub. Then there's the sound of bass, drums and guitar which is just typical late '72 / early '73 Stones, and impossible to recreate 40 years later. Compare the sound of the open G guitar to the sound of Tops: it's identical. Then there's the little riffs being played by Keith: it's typical exploring of the possibilities of the open G spectrum, as Keith did on so many songs of the day (TD, Save Me, Tops). Check the live versions of TD from '72 with the riffs he plays on PMS: they are all in the same vein.
Last, Taylor is a fantastic lead player, but has always been a mediocre rythm player. There's just not a chance in this world Taylor could ever lay down such a smooth rhythm guitar (nor could Keith after '77 for that matter).
There's a lot more going on with the rhythm guitar that you would think on first listen, and that is what has made Richards and the Stones famous.
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Ps it is actually quite irritating someone wants to boost oneself by saying “I have a source telling me…” while all factual evidence is missing. If you believe in conspiracies a remark like that suffices I guess…