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klrkcr
Wouldnt it have been a nice gesture on Mick and Keiths behalf to at least been there with Mick T while he did his thing? I mean they invited him.
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The Greek
this is a joke to me another typical money grab .remixing exile to me is sacreligious .what are we gonna condone the repainting of the sistene chapel in the vatican because of a perceived smudge ?it's a masterpiece dont mess with it
They're not repainting the 'masterpiece'. They're releasing it as it is. Same songs. Remastered. Not remixed. The 18-track album is getting the same treatment as the rest of the UMG remasters.
All they're doing is touching up a few of the original, unseen sketches and adding them separately.
Different project entirely.
Exactly. Gazza, was that you posting on Steve Hoffman's site?
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Because the Stones camp hadn't let the cat out the bag. Now that it was out through other sources, Don wasn't going to lie but was still choosing his words carefully. When I asked Don about Taylor adding overdubs sometime ago, having heard about it from other sources, he turned pale and asked who'd told me. By the way, I don't think Taylor was in the studio with either Mick or Keith.
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klrkcr
Wouldnt it have been a nice gesture on Mick and Keiths behalf to at least been there with Mick T while he did his thing? I mean they invited him.
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LieB
Without a doubt. It's very cool that they considered him, but quite a cold-manned thing to just leave the work to the producers, if that's how it went. It's not like Mick & Keef seem to be extremely busy with other things at the moment either.
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Rocky Dijon
I don't know, Lightnin', I haven't read anything from Teddy that seems inconsistent or makes me doubt he told everything he could. He's been right on the money and I'm grateful he shared what he could when he did.
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klrkcr
Wouldnt it have been a nice gesture on Mick and Keiths behalf to at least been there with Mick T while he did his thing? I mean they invited him.
Without a doubt. It's very cool that they considered him, but quite a cold-manned thing to just leave the work to the producers, if that's how it went. It's not like Mick & Keef seem to be extremely busy with other things at the moment either.
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tatters
It must have been a very awkward situation all around. MT hasn't been a Stone for 36 years, and yet, he's an integral part of this particular project. Finding a way of involving him without causing Ronnie to suffer his nineteenth nervous breakdown must have really involved some walking on egg shells.
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stoneswashed77
no that´s not double standart. bootlegs are a completely different story than stealing official releases!
i would consider bootlegs illegal only if they would sound good.
but as long as a small recorder and two mics is not gonna get you anywhere near the quality of an official live recording it´s not stealing.
that´s like telling me making a video with my cell phone was stealing! rubbish!!
i have anyway only two bootlegs from the early 70´s which i listened to once, couldn´t stand the sound quality, and also performance, and never listened again.
but i bought all their official live releases instead.
keep on stealing and still feel good ass-hole!
Nice attempt at justifying your stealing!
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tatters
It must have been a very awkward situation all around. MT hasn't been a Stone for 36 years, and yet, he's an integral part of this particular project. Finding a way of involving him without causing Ronnie to suffer his nineteenth nervous breakdown must have really involved some walking on egg shells.
Well Ronnie was not in the studio. He probably had plenty of other things to attend to. Besides, we're talking about a record that is arguably one of the Taylor era gems. Ronnie didn't play on the original.
Reportedly the atmosphere between the others was very good. So no awkwardness at all.
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tatters
And you really think the fact that MJ would rather be dancing in the studio with MT, instead of touring or recording with RW, has had NOTHING to do with Ronnie's going off the deep end in recent months?
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tatters
And you really think the fact that MJ would rather be dancing in the studio with MT, instead of touring or recording with RW, has had NOTHING to do with Ronnie's going off the deep end in recent months?
Oh no, where did I state that ?
I'm just saying that is how the Stones (Jagger/Richards, not to mention Loewenstein) operate. Totally Merciless darling.
I saw years ago how Jagger completely ignored Ronnie when he was trying to apologise after he'd gone on a terrible bender during a European tour. Jagger walked straight past him, he would not even pause to hear RW out. Ronnie looked just like a lost puppy.
Mick T has been in the position where his old bandmates were making themselves unavailable when he had business (no trivial matters either) to discuss with them. So he knows how things work.
What might bother you in terms of not showing any compassion, manners or human decency are not the things that MJ and KR are going to lose any sleep over.
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tatters
And you really think the fact that MJ would rather be dancing in the studio with MT, instead touring or recording with RW, has had NOTHING to do with Ronnie's going off the deep end in recent months?
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johnnythunders
Confirmed:
1. Mick Taylor in the studio doing overdubs. He said the sessions were great, more fun than he'd had in 20 years.
2. Jagger present and dancing...
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tatters
It doesn't bother ME in the least. I would have preferred that they didn't do any overdubs at all, but since the did, I'm glad they at least brought in MT to do them. Ronnie will just have to learn to deal with it. The best revenge would be to hook up with Mac and Kenny and do a "Faces" tour.
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... first folks were bitching because they imagined neither Glimmer was in the studio with Mick T,
and now folks are bitching because they imagine they were in the studio?
ffs
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... first folks were bitching because they imagined neither Glimmer was in the studio with Mick T,
and now folks are bitching because they imagine they were in the studio?
ffs
No, apparently some folks take umbrage at Jagger's dancing... They are of the opinion that a more restrained demeanour would have been in order.
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tatters
It doesn't bother ME in the least. I would have preferred that they didn't do any overdubs at all, but since the did, I'm glad they at least brought in MT to do them. Ronnie will just have to learn to deal with it. The best revenge would be to hook up with Mac and Kenny and do a "Faces" tour.
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dewlover
"Piracy of an official product and bootlegging officially unreleased studio/live recordings is not the same, but it is still stealing from the artist and illegal."
God Bless the Grateful Dead...
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skipstone
Ronnie is not on, according to nzentgraf, Worried About You, Tops, Heaven and Waiting On A Friend. 3 of those were recorded before Ronnie's time in the band, 2 of which have Mick Taylor on them..