Can someone come up with shows/sellouts for A Bigger Bang compared to 360? If that is how it's gonna be judged, might as well have the numbers.

If U2 is only after having the highest grossing tour they can easily do it with the current tour or the many ones to likely come in the future. If they don't break the record with the scheduled gigs they simply append a few more. The Stones might have one more chance to top the grossing charts, but I highly doubt it. They oversaturated the market for decades. Had the ticket prices during the Steel Wheels, Voodo Lounge or maybe B2B tour been what they are now then those would have shattered the Bigger Bang record easily.
In any case, U2 will in the end be on top of the charts, be it with the 360 tour or one to come. I personally don't like this idea, but let's get used to it.
It hurts a bit, because - compared to album sales and all the other statistics - the touring business was a thing where the Stones really were in their own league, pretty much untouchable.

Records put aside, even U2 acknowledge that the Stones are the greatest.
They also know that in the end of the day, no matter how many 90.000 seaters they fill, the Stones are musicial legends and they are not.

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Records put aside, even U2 acknowledge that the Stones are the greatest.
They also know that in the end of the day, no matter how many 90.000 seaters they fill, the Stones are musicial legends and they are not.

Exactly - couldn't be said better.



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U2 are not musical legends? is that a joke?

There is another way to look at it:

U2 is now in the same league as the Stones - horrible record sales, incredible attendance figures.

I'm curious as to the amount of shows. It seems that U2 have done quite a lesser amount of shows then the Stones did for Bang so far, as well as not overplayed a market (Chicago comes to mind). And I don't see U2 doing as many shows as there were for Bang. To my knowledge, not all of the U2 US shows have sold out. As well with the Stones. The U2 shows have more seating available - the Stones, well, they had plenty of seats available.

So is the jeopardy for the record for this year or for a tour total? It sounds like it's for just this year alone. The Stones record was for the grand total, which took a long time. U2 finishing their tour in October and then doing nothing until half way through next year - that's not exactly the same tour now is it.

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Then we'll have the recurring debate: What really makes for a successful tour? The size of the stack of bucks generated or the actual volume of seats filled.

What makes a succesful tour is a band that goes out and puts on great shows night after night. Whether they play for 1 fan or a million. The music is what makes a succesful tour.

"It's just some friends of mine and they're busting down the door"

Will U2 360 tour outgross bigger bang??

Does it matter?
Do we care?


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Those who make you angry...control you.

Just relax, it's not really important to us.

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Then we'll have the recurring debate: What really makes for a successful tour? The size of the stack of bucks generated or the actual volume of seats filled.

. . . or the quality of music put out, or the fan-friendly approach. Ahhh, when did our beloved rock'n'roll become so corporate and greedy.

it isnt really a valid comparisen comparing 2 bands who are at different stages of thier respective careers and obviously one of those bands has an advantage in that they are nearly 20 years younger so could theoretically do concerts 20 years after the stones last.

and then you have to consider inflation in that 20 year period which would make any band have a larger gross income than any tour today.

you would have to take inflation into consideration for every tours figures.

the only way to compare is attendance figures for each tour.

...and if U2's tour DOES outgross the Bigger Bang tour, will it be the end of life as we know it?

Watch this space!!!!!!!

IF??????????? its going to shatter ABB gross

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Those who make you angry...control you.

Great post.

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There is another way to look at it:

U2 is now in the same league as the Stones - horrible record sales, incredible attendance figures.

4 million copies sold from their latest album is pretty good these days, and they are good sellers during the Christmas season and of course they will get a couple of grammy's too, so more album sales until February/March 2010. I can see their album around the 6 million mark at the end.

Here the U2's boxscore to date:

1ST LEG EUROPE

June 30, July 2, 2009
Barcelona, Spain
Camp Nou
GROSS: $19,825,497 (RECORD)
ATTENDANCE: 182,055 (RECORD)
SHOWS: 2
SELLOUTS: 2
Average Ticket Price: $108.90

July 7-8, 2009
Milan, Italy
Stadio San Siro
GROSS: $15,168,799 (RECORD)
ATTENDANCE: 153,806 (RECORD)
SHOWS: 2
SELLOUTS: 2
Average Ticket Price: $98.62

July 11-12, 2009
Paris, France
Stade De France
GROSS: $20,902,760 (RECORD)
ATTENDANCE: 186,544 (RECORD)
SHOWS: 2
SELLOUTS: 2
Average Ticket Price: $112.05

July 15, 2009
Nice, France
Stade Charles Erhmann, Nice
GROSS: $6,261,208
ATTENDANCE: 55,641
SHOWS: 1
SELLOUTS :1
Average Ticket Price: $112.53

July 18, 2009
Berlin, Germany
Olympic Stadium
GROSS: $9,169,830 (RECORD)
ATTENDANCE: 88,265 (RECORD)
SHOWS :1
SELLOUTS: 1
Average Ticket Price: $103.89

July 20-21, 2009
Amsterdam, Netherlands
Amsterdam Arena
GROSS: $12,583,998
ATTENDANCE: 125,866
SHOWS: 2
SELLOUTS: 2
Average Ticket Price: $99.98

July 24-25, 27, 2009
Dublin, Ireland
Croke Park
GROSS: $28,815,352 (RECORD)
ATTENDANCE: 243,198
SHOWS: 3
SELLOUTS: 3
Average Ticket Price: $118.49

July 31 - August 1, 2009
Goteborg, Sweden
Ullevi Stadion
GROSS: $11,047,995
ATTENDANCE: 119,297
SHOWS: 2
SELLOUTS: 2
Average Ticket Price: $92.61

August 3, 2009
Gelsenkirchen, Germany
Veltins-Arena
GROSS: $7,292,826 (RECORD)
ATTENDANCE: 73,704 (RECORD)
SHOWS: 1
SELLOUTS: 1
Average Ticket Price: $98.95

August 6, 2009
Chorzow, Poland
Slaski Stadium
GROSS: $6,414,960 (RECORD)
ATTENDANCE: 75,180 (RECORD)
SHOWS: 1
SELLOUTS: 1
Average Ticket Price: $85.33

August 9-10, 2009
Zagreb, Croatia
Maksimir Stadium
GROSS: $12,700,784 (RECORD)
ATTENDANCE: 124,012 (RECORD)
SHOWS: 2
SELLOUTS: 2
Average Ticket Price: $102.42

August 14-15, 2009
London, United Kingdom
Wembley Stadium
GROSS: $20,680,860
ATTENDANCE: 164,244
SHOWS: 2
SELLOUTS: 2
Average Ticket Price: $125.92

August 18, 2009
Glasgow, United Kingdom
Hampden Park
GROSS: $5,290,103
ATTENDANCE: 50,917
SHOWS: 1
SELLOUTS: 1
Average Ticket Price: $103.90

August 20, 2009
Sheffield, United Kingdom
Don Valley Stadium
GROSS: $5,147,896
ATTENDANCE: 49,955
SHOWS: 1
SELLOUTS: 1
Average Ticket Price: $103.05

August 22, 2009
Cardiff, United Kingdom
Millennium Stadium
GROSS: $7,041,576 (RECORD)
ATTENDANCE: 66,538 (RECORD)
SHOWS: 1
SELLOUTS: 1
Average Ticket Price: $105.83


U2 360 TOUR: 1ST LEG EUROPE STATS

GROSS: $188,344,444
ATTENDANCE: 1,759,222
Average Gross: $7,847,685
Average Attendance: 73,301
Average Ticket Price: $107.06
Shows: 24
Sellouts: 24



2ND LEG NORTH AMERICA

September 12-13, 2009
Chicago, Illinois
Soldier Field
GROSS: $13,860,480 (RECORD)
ATTENDANCE: 135,872 (RECORD)
SHOWS: 2
SELLOUTS: 2
Average Ticket Price: $102.01

September 16-17, 2009
Toronto, Ontario
Rogers Centre
GROSS: $9,571,672
ATTENDANCE: 115,411
SHOWS: 2
SELLOUTS: 2
Average Ticket Price: $82.94

September 20-21, 2009
Foxboro, Massachusetts
Gillette Stadium
GROSS: $12,859,778 (RECORD)
ATTENDANCE: 138,805 (RECORD)
SHOWS: 2
SELLOUTS: 2
Average Ticket Price: $92.65

September 23-24, 2009
East Rutherford, New Jersey
Giants Stadium
GROSS: $16,128,950
ATTENDANCE: 161,810
SHOWS: 2
SELLOUTS: 2
Average Ticket Price: $99.68

U2 360 TOUR: 2ND LEG NORTH AMERICAN STATS

GROSS: $52,420,880
ATTENDANCE: 551,898
Average Gross: $6,552,610
Average Attendance: 68,987
Average Ticket Price: $94.98
Shows: 8
Sellouts: 8



U2 360 TOUR: TOTAL STATS TO DATE

GROSS: $240,765,324
ATTENDANCE: 2,311,120
Average Gross: $7,523,916
Average Attendance: 72,223
Average Ticket Price: $104.18
Shows: 32
Sellouts: 32

At least U2 has the guts to play 70-80% of their new album and even more, they start the show with 4 new songs.
I don't see the Stones do that in their lifetimes anymore because unfortunatly they can't produce a new good album........... that's Sad Sad Sad.

Mr.Ed

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Date: October 4, 2009 11:23

At least U2 has the guts to play 70-80% of their new album and even more, they start the show with 4 new songs.
I don't see the Stones do that in their lifetimes anymore because unfortunatly they can't produce a new good album........... that's Sad Sad Sad.

Mr.Ed

Agree with half of your post, but in my opinion U2's new album is OK, but not a good album.

its better than ABB IMO

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its better than ABB IMO

Depends on music taste - if you like softer music, then U2 is ok. If you don't like softer music / pop - then it is Stones. To me ABB is way better.
Probably the same with Beatles vs. Stones etc.

Metallica's Death Magnetic is better than A Bigger Bang. If you like harder music.

Chopin piano concertos are better then Bigger Bang. If you like classical music

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So U2 are supposedly doing some green thing (sort of like those more expensive light bulbs that last longer but are loaded with mercury? That's green!) with this tour but it's probably just all moot point bullshit, especially when you get up to however many cars like that concentrated in one area.

What are the numbers for AC/DC?

That is the best tour this year IMHO. Unlike Bono and U2, they don't need 200+ trucks to haul their ego around. U2 can't touch their CD sales either.

Who cares?

Do you like the Stones for their music or the money the make?

Who the hell cares? Tour gross has no bearing upon the artistic merit of that tour.

They're going to set a record the Stones will only be able to beat if they announce its their final tour which I don't see them doing...

Frankly I think U2's tour is sheer idiocy... U2 has yet to turn a profit because all that money is going to pay for the claws and the 100s of trucks needed to haul them around ... And all this to presumably get close to fans in stadiums? Give me a break..

...why should U2, or anyone else, have to make a profit?

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They're going to set a record the Stones will only be able to beat if they announce its their final tour which I don't see them doing...

Frankly I think U2's tour is sheer idiocy... U2 has yet to turn a profit because all that money is going to pay for the claws and the 100s of trucks needed to haul them around ... And all this to presumably get close to fans in stadiums? Give me a break..

as it is with every big tour not just U2