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birdie
The ticket sales are impressive but I will take a 3 hr. show in front of 20,000-40,000 with no gimmicks or ridiculous stage any day of the week.
And with about half the ticket price and random playlists for good measure...
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birdie
The ticket sales are impressive but I will take a 3 hr. show in front of 20,000-40,000 with no gimmicks or ridiculous stage any day of the week.
And with about half the ticket price and random playlists for good measure...
Maybe I am wrong, but is this a comparison of U2 and Bruce? ...the GA ticket for Bruce in Vienna - 78 Euro, U2 in Berlin - 68 Euro. 68/2 is not 78. No offence Gazza, but those are the facts
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carlostones10
The tickets were expensives in the last tour. They were expensive for all people. I think 75 euros (cheaper ticket) very expesive. Many people don´t buy expensive tickets. If You aren´t a fanatic you don´t buy expensive tickets.
I remember stones brazilian concerts in 1995. The Stones tickets were sell by 18 reais (9 dolars) for the Maracanã concerts and 25 reais (12 dolars) for the Pacaembu concerts. The band sold 310.000 tickets for five concerts.
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skipstone
What does buying expensive tickets have to do with being a fanatic? Or with being a fan? Do you prove something by spending more money? I spent 25 and 50 bucks on Voodoo. I thought the 50$ seats were overpriced. The 25$ seats were more like it. I can go watch airplanes take off for free at the airport, why should I pay a lot for the same view of the Stones?
That's the most idiotic thing ever, being a fanatic means spending a ton of money on tickets. Well good then - if I ever get to go see a Stones show and you are at it then I will have a chance at getting a decent cheap seat because the carolostone fanatic will have spent a ton of money to be up close so he can get tears in his beer over Mick singing Angie.
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liddas
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One of my greatest regrets was not being able to see the band in a club show during the Licks tour.
At the beginning I refused to subscribe to the fan club, or to purchase the VIP pack. It was a huge amount of money. But once the tour unfolded and all those great reviews, I just wanted to get in. Fly on the spot to get in the queue the day before, hoping to get a ticket, was not an option.
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Gazza
In the beginning (ie, for the US leg of the tour), you werent allowed to join the fan club and take part in the presales unless you lived in the US or Canada.
I went to New York in September 2002 and Los Angeles a month later for the shows there (at considerable expense!) and saw the arena and stadium shows in both cities. However, because of the fact I didnt live in the US, I couldnt buy tickets for the theatre shows in those cities (Roseland and Wiltern). So much for being a 'fanatic'.
They only opened membership to the rest of the world at the end of 2002 when the European dates were announced. For those shows, you could buy tickets with your membership no matter where you lived (although intriguingly the presales tended to start at random times during the evening which would have been daytime in the US...funny,that). Still, it was great to get in to a theatre show, even if it wasnt exactly a level playing field when it came to acquiring tickets.
I probably would have got to more theatre shows only for rs.com's stupid fanatic-unfriendly rule that you were only allowed one membership per household and that any attempt to register for multiple memberships (and therefore see more than one theatre show) would result in your membership (and tickets) being cancelled. As it turned out, they didnt do this - although most of us found that out too late to get tickets (you could get round the problem by using different credit cards for each membership)
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timbernardis
i hate u2 and i hope something happens to derail their tour
the start of their last tour was postponed by a couple of months because The Edge's daughter was receiving treatment for leukemia.
Maybe you'd get a kick if something like that happened again or even if the child died?
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stoneswashed77
"half the pitch was taken by the Claw"
that´s wrong. the stage itself is a lot smaller than stones stage and not as wide. there were a lot of people around the stage, behind the stage, even far behind the stage and also filled seats behind the stage. where when the stones play half the stadium is filled with the stage. also the infield was really full.
the show was great. not only because of the stage and lights, but the peformance was really good. really good sound, something that hasn´t happened lately with stones concerts. also snow patrol was allowed to have a very good sound, which is very cool from u2 if you ask me. mixture of new and old songs almost perfect. also i haven´t seen so many young people at a concert for a long time. a few weeks ago i saw depeche mode and it was like grandma meets grandpa. this is still a current band. and as much as i hate to say it. i doubt the stones will ever get anywhere near that again.
which is alright with me, but i am sure they will hate it and probably makes them not tour again.
if you ask me, i think u2 deserves their success. it is a good band. i don´t understand all the hate here. they definately have some very good songs,also very good new songs, and it would be alright to admit that even though you may like the stones better.
the stones haven´t done one good, relevant new song in 30 years.
that´s their fault!
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Gazza
The 5 nights in Amsterdam was actually in 1998, not 1995. 250,000 tickets sold in a couple of hours. And then they returned to play a field show in The Hague a couple of months later in front of some 80,000 people.
The Stones were (and still are) huge. However, the days of multiple night runs in the same venue are a thing of the past at the prices they charge now. In 1998, tickets were about £35-40.
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timbernardis
My guess would be that the money itself is not the only reason they charge such high prices, but because physically they no longer have the stamina to play multiple shows in a short time frame in each city, so this is also a way of cutting down on the number of shows they no longer can physically do, or not to the same degree anyway.
They know not as many fans will buy the tickets when they charge such high prices and this is intentional not only for money-making/greed reasons, but is a deliberate choice to hold down the number of fans and hence shows.
They know they will not sell as many tickets, hence fewer shows, which brings them down to a schedule that they can handle physically at this point in their lives/careers.
Money and physical issues interact nicely now for them here to produce what they can handle and still pull in a lot of money. I guess that's smart for them, even if it shortchanges the fans.
dont know if the way i just described a possible scenario did any justice or really explained the point i was trying to make very well.
TIMBERNARDIS -
That is a perfectly spot on summation in my opinion.
Do people really expect them to do a tour where the prices are down & they have to camp in New York for 2 weeks while playing 6 or 8 shows? And then do the same in LA & other cities with 2 or 3 shows etc etc.
They crunch the numbers & work out likely that 1 show / 2 shows tops in one area is enough & a tiered pricing structure works for the juggernaught to make money & keep the number of shows down.
It's purely logical & common sense for the age they are at.
YES - GREED may be a large factor, no dispute there, but they know what they will make & they don't want to do 120 shows in the USA when they can knock it down to maybe 55 by being "GREEDY". Yes it sucks for some of us it seems, but they can do whatever they want to, period.
Let's quote Keith to make this clear & simple - "WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO, LIVE IN A TOWN FOR A YEAR & PLAY A GARAGE?". Forget it.
Good luck to them in their future tour plans & I just hope they do one tour again for all of us & I could not care less what they charge, I will get a new credit card & devote a couple of thousand bucks to them. Big deal, $100 / $250 / $450 / $700, whatever..., I will catch 1 show or 2 if possible or all 55 if I win Powerball.
If you cannot make it yourself, or refuse to, or are broke, we each have our own reasons, but Timbers comment is pretty spot on, let's face that fact at least.
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stoneswashed77
"half the pitch was taken by the Claw"
that´s wrong. the stage itself is a lot smaller than stones stage and not as wide. there were a lot of people around the stage, behind the stage, even far behind the stage and also filled seats behind the stage. where when the stones play half the stadium is filled with the stage. also the infield was really full.
a few comments and questions, to wit:
first, were you there? leteyter lives in paris and i know he attended all 4 shows as he said -- can u say the same?
"infield" -- now u are using a term from baseball (largely an American sport or let's say not really played in Europe and the UK), so can you use a different term/description?
you were starting to make a good point but went too far with your last statement.
then again, what do I have to say about any of it as I made the derailing statement, so i can be rational and irrational, all in the same thread or even the same post, makes life fun and interesting. "U cant put me in a box."
Marx spoke of people criticizing themselves as well as others and I do believe it is good practice.
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