they droped the prices + you could buy plenty of tickets till the very last minute... . It was said in the news as well! Wanna have tickets for gelsenkirchen?

[www.getgo.de] still plenty available!!!!

why do you get offensive about that???



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[www.morgenpost.de] see here as well!

NOT SOLD OUT!!!!

i don´t get offensive. but if this would have been the normal stage in a stadium setup it would have been sold out easily. the whole idea behind that 360 tour is you can sell a lot more tickets for the cost of maybe not sell out but have 93000 people attending the concert.

sold out or not is not the point but how many tickets for what price.

i am not a u2 fan but i think this tour, show and performance is really good and i think the stones could follow that example.

I go with you a 100% but it was not sold out ;-) the last U2 tour wasn't sold out as well (concerning berlin). And mind: There are only 2 concerts in Germany. The stones do always some more ... and if there had been this massiv price drop the stones would have had a fuller stadium in 2006 (which wasn't empty at all)

But at the and it's no !we are better than them thing" ( I linke U2 as well)

cheers Jens



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I was also amazed how many tickets were still available at Milano just before the show. And how does it work in Italy, they sell so much shirts etc. outside the venue, definitely not official stuff.

sjouke

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five_strings_G
the last U2 tour wasn't sold out as well (concerning berlin)

You're wrong.
Official Billboard boxscores :

U2
Olympiastadion
Berlin, Germany
July 7, 2005
$4,725,530
70,443
70,443
1
1

For information, just one year after U2 :

The Rolling Stones
Olympiastadion
Berlin, Germany
July 21, 2006
$3,997,912
44,989
65,995
1
0



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might be, still it was no problem to get tickets ...

cool but when the stones were in berlin 1/3 of the stadium was empty, when you compare to u2 standards even half empty.

yepp with only 2 or in 05 3 concerts in an market like germany not so immpressiv...

don´t think so. only a very few hardcore fans travel. most people go to the concerts
in their area spontaneously. if u2 would give more concerts they could fill those too, maybe not sell out but easily half empty.

so why don't they do it?!

Theyre only doing 15 cities in Europe this year - most of them in the biggest stadia in the continent (San Siro, Croke Park, Nou Camp, Wembley & Stade de France are I think the five biggest in Europe)

I think the stage is too big for the dimensions of many stadiums. Maybe next year's tour will see them play some smaller stadiums with a slightly smaller stage set up?

Two more shows reported:

July 15, 2009
Nice, France
Stade Charles Erhmann, Nice
GROSS: $6,261,208
ATTENDANCE: 55,641
SHOWS: 1
SELLOUTS :1
Average Ticket Price: $112.53

July 18, 2009
Berlin, Germany
Olympic Stadium
GROSS: $9,169,830
ATTENDANCE: 88,265
SHOWS :1
SELLOUTS: 1
Average Ticket Price: $103.89



U2 360 TOUR: 1ST LEG EUROPE STATS

GROSS: $71,328,094
ATTENDANCE: 666,311
Average Gross: $8,916,012
Average Attendance: 83,289
Average Ticket Price: $107.05
Shows: 8
Sellouts: 8

once again berlin was not sold out! why is there no capacity stated?

"the only statistics you can trust are those you falsified yourself"
Winston Churchill



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five_strings_G
once again berlin was not sold out! why is there no capacity stated?

It says that it WAS sold out. And as it states the attendance, then by definition thats also the capacity.

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Gazza

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five_strings_G
once again berlin was not sold out! why is there no capacity stated?

It says that it WAS sold out. And as it states the attendance, then by definition thats also the capacity.

As much as I know there were NO tickets at the eventim.de 2 days before the show (the last time I checked).

As one of those lucky ones who were there I have to say I didn't see any empty seats and judging from the photos, the field could not be fuller (all GA tickets were sold in the pre-sale anyway, there were no GA tickets on the regular sale).

It is true that there were still some of the most expensive seats just a couple of days before the show, but I am pretty sure that at the end it was sold-out.

And well...does it really matter? ...the claw or not the claw? ...was it sold out, or were there 50 tickets left? C'mon, the show is great, fans love it, what else do we need to know? And there is no need to thake it personally that it is not the Stones. Hopefully the Stones will please us the next year and meanwhile we can go to se U2, Bruce or whoever suits anyone's taste...



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It says that it WAS sold out. And as it states the attendance, then by definition thats also the capacity.[/quote]

... the truth must be out there. the fact that there were plenty of tickets left make be really doubt it, also all the press reports said it was not sold out. what they say the have a good statistic is another thing.

Hardly matters, does it?

One show may or may not have been sold out for U2's 360.

How many shows for the Bigger Bang tour were not sold out? From my understanding, a few of them.

There are always tickets available a day or two before a show. I've gotten tickets to a show that was already sold out. It seems to me that there is a minimum for the promoter to deal with. It's based on what they make available, not exactly how many seats there are. For the Superdome show in 1994 they made, if I recall correctly, 64,000 available and 22,000 were bought. Certainly they could have made 75,000 available...

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carlostones10
Tours top 10:

1. Rolling Stones "A Bigger Bang Tour" 2005-2007 - US$ 558,255,524
2. U2 "Vertigo Tour" 2005-2006 - US $ 380 milhões.
3. Rolling Stones "Bridges To Babylon/No Security Tour" 1997/1998/1999 - US$339 millhões
4. Rolling Stones "Voodoo Lounge Tour " 1994 -1995 - US$319 milhões
5. Rolling Stones "Licks Tour" 2002-2003 - US$300 milhões
6. Bruce Springsteens "Rising Tour" - US$230 milhões
7. Eagles "Hell Freezes Over Tour" - US$200 milhões
8. U2 "POPMART" 1997-1998 - US$171,677,0249.
9. Rolling Stones "Steel Wheels Tour" 1989-1990 - US$170 milhões
10. Pink Floyd "Division Bell Tour" 1994 - US$170 milhões

STONES - 5 tours in 10.
U2 - 2 tours in 10.

What do you can discuss now?

THE ROLLING STONES - The greatest rock and roll band in the world! EVER!

how many shows were played though? thats the key

Boxscores for Amsterdam and Dublin :



July 20-21, 2009
Amsterdam, Netherlands
Amsterdam Arena
GROSS: $12,583,998
ATTENDANCE: 125,866
SHOWS: 2
SELLOUTS: 2
Average Ticket Price: $99.98

July 24-25, 27, 2009
Dublin, Ireland
Croke Park
GROSS: $28,815,352 (RECORD)
ATTENDANCE: 243,198
SHOWS: 3
SELLOUTS: 3
Average Ticket Price: $118.49

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U2 360 TOUR: 1ST LEG EUROPE STATS

GROSS: $112,727,444
ATTENDANCE: 1,035,375
Average Gross: $8,671,342
Average Attendance: 79,644
Shows: 13
Sellouts: 13
Average Ticket Price: $108.88

"Just for the record, ABB grossed $558 million during 147 shows. At this rate, U2 will shatter that record with only 60 shows".- The amazing provocateur Georgelicks

It's kind of like saying a batter who hits ten homeruns in his first ten games is on pace to hit 162 homeruns for the season. They are obviously playing the biggest stadiums now since they started in Europe but I don't think they will maintain that pace throughout the whole tour.

You can go by stats or not but you can't have it both ways. The Stones have at least five of the top ten tours of all time even though at least two of them were in the relatively low ticket prices age. Last time they went head to head with U2 The Stones outdid them. Now a few years later U2 tours again in humongous stadiums with an ingenius stage design and seem to be doing well. None of this will make U2 a better band or even a better touring band than The Stones.

Here is an impressive figure: The number of great Rolling Stones songs versus the
negligible whatever it is that U2 tries to pass off
as rock'n'roll.

Yeah but give U2 some credit. They do lead The Stones in the all important category of preaching from the stage. No band can compete with them in that area.

and also the other important stat of all original members

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melillo
and also the other important stat of all original members

You bring this point up repeatedly Melillo and while I think you bring a lot to this forum I think I may speak for more than just myself when I say I honestly think you are the only one who gives one iota about this fact that they have all their original members. The sixties were a different time than the eightees. Lots of drug/alchohol related deaths. I think it only matters in an extreme case when a band has only one or maybe two original members left. If a band has been around for forty plus years and has three of the five original members then that it fine with me.

"Lyin' awake in a cold, cold sweat. Am I overdrawn, am I going in debt?
It gets worse, the older that you get. No escape from the state of confusion I'm in.

I seldom listen to U2, but I'm glad they are popular. They are good guys.

More power to U2, they are a fine band, but I'm not sure they'll be packing stadiums when Bono turns 60.

Between 1966 and 1979, the Stones released as many albums as U2 has for their entire career. (14 years versus 30) (If you include Ya-Ya's to counter Rattle and Hum)

I think it's great that U2 is playing new stuff, but the Stones played a ton of new stuff every tour until '97. And even then, there were still a few new ones. Let's see what the ratio of old to new songs is for U2 in 2019.

Congrats to U2 for pulling in so much dough, but they have a loooooong way to go before they can be compared to the Stones.

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saulsurvivor
More power to U2, they are a fine band, but I'm not sure they'll be packing stadiums when Bono turns 60.

I'm not sure they'll even WANT to, but considering they're still attracting new fans (something the Stones gave up trying to do a decade ago), there's absolutely no reason to think they wouldnt be able to in what is just over a decade's time.

"They are good guys"
Yeah a guy (Bono) who licked the arse of the worst politicians on this planet (W. Blair Chirac) can't be bad