When I stayed in L.A in the early 90 's I met once Danny Sugerman in a library of Sunset Bvd.
We talk very quickly ,I wanted him to invite me in his place in view of talking about the Doors and the Stones ,but he was quite weird and didn't even invite me in a bar.

I think he was living in Laurel Canyon .
I was wandering if the house where the Stones were in the 70 's was the Mary Astor House.
I thought they stayed at Stephen Still 's place .According to Ben Fong-Torres, writing in Hickory Wind, “Mick and Keith stayed at Stephen Stills’s [sic] house near Laurel Canyon … Before Stills, the house had been occupied by Peter Tork of the Monkees.” (For the record, other reports hold that the Peter Tork house was in, not near, Laurel Canyon.)

[revver.com]



What do you know about this ?



I am a Frenchie ,as Mick affectionately called them in the Old Grey Whistle Test in 1977 .

i enjoyed the video...thanks!

Yeah, me too !!

Think they've been in Stills house.
Maybe that's where Keith got his anti-Stills feelings . . ?!



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2009-04-21 14:58 by CousinC.

I think the stones stayed at Stills house for 1969 tour. Dont remember where they stayed in 1972

Quote
Bashlets
I think the stones stayed at Stills house for 1969 tour. Dont remember where they stayed in 1972

Yes ,you're right !

Singer Mick Jagger of the Rolling Stones lies in a hammock and strums a guitar at Stephen Stills' house in Laurel Canyon, California, where the group are rehearsing for their American tour, October 1969. (Photo by Terry O'Neill/Hulton Archive/Getty Images)




1970




honestman sent me this picture from Amsterdam 69.






But I can't find in which book one can see Keith at Stephen's home (coloured pictures,around the swimming pool )

There are very very famous ones !!



I am a Frenchie ,as Mick affectionately called them in the Old Grey Whistle Test in 1977 .

The Tork/Stills house is on Shady Oak Lane in Studio City.
It's off of Laurel Terrace (which is off of Laurel Canyon).
I think it's the middle house, as there's only three or four houses on
the entire street. I was there years ago.
There's been conflicting accounts about the Stills/Tork connection.
Tork says he bought it, then leased it to Stills, then moved back in
for a short while. After spending a fortune remodeling it and no Monkee money
coming in anymore, he has to sell it at a loss.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2009-04-21 20:41 by tomk.

If memory serves me right, in @#$%& Blues, at the beginning, someone is on the phone, Marshall Chess i think, giving directions on how to get to a house in the hills, presumably the house where the Stones were staying at at the time. He mentions the street name and house number.

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2009-04-23 06:02 by schillid.

Quote
tomk
The Tork/Stills house is on Shady Oak Lane in Studio City.
It's off of Laurel Terrace (whcih is off of Laurel Canyon).
I think it's the middle house, as there's only three or four houses on
the entire street. I was there years ago.
There's been conflicting accounts about the Stills/Tork connection.
Tork says he bought it, then leased it to Stills, then moved back in
for a short while. After spending a fortune remodeling it and no Monkee money
coming in anymore, he has to sell it at a loss.

It's actually 3615 Shady Oak Road and I believe its the last house on the road. You can see a clear overhead view if you go to MS Live Search Maps and enter the address in. Click on the Birds Eye view and then for an even closer view, click on the + sign. You can also view it from 4 different angles. If you look close enough, you can see Keith sitting on the diving board!

This link should work:

[maps.live.com]

Quote
2000 LYFH

Quote
tomk
The Tork/Stills house is on Shady Oak Lane in Studio City.
It's off of Laurel Terrace (whcih is off of Laurel Canyon).
I think it's the middle house, as there's only three or four houses on
the entire street. I was there years ago.
There's been conflicting accounts about the Stills/Tork connection.
Tork says he bought it, then leased it to Stills, then moved back in
for a short while. After spending a fortune remodeling it and no Monkee money
coming in anymore, he has to sell it at a loss.

It's actually 3615 Shady Oak Road and I believe its the last house on the road. You can see a clear overhead view if you go to MS Live Search Maps and enter the address in. Click on the Birds Eye view and then for an even closer view, click on the + sign. You can also view it from 4 different angles. If you look close enough, you can see Keith sitting on the diving board!

This link should work:

[maps.live.com]

Yes, Shady Oak Road, not Lane. I have seen it mentioned as Lane in a few books.
When I was there many years ago, the house didn't have a gate.
Don't know if it does now. I'm not sure.
Anyway, I just drove right up to the house. Luckily, no one was there
to see me drive up. Before Peter Tork bought it, it was owned by actor Wally Cox.
I've also heard that composer Carmine Dragon later lived there.

Hi Everybody's

I've found this on the rolling stones database :

691028A 28th October - 1st November: Laurel Canyon, California, basement of Stephen Stills’ house. Rehearsals for the upcoming US tour. Incl. songs played on the tour and
- Bad Boy (Eddy Taylor) -31.10.69; unverified
- Monkey Man (MJ/KR) -31.10.69; unverified

And i'm wandering if these songs has been recorded???
During these 4 days of rehearsals, we don't know if Stills joined the STONES,
and we also don't know and probably never know if these rehearsals were taped?


HMN



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2009-04-22 14:46 by Honestman.

If the Stephen Stills House is (was) in the Studio City area, that means
that ALL infos about the Laurel Canyon location are all wrongs

Francky

Quote
FRANCKY
If the Stephen Stills House is (was) in the Studio City area, that means
that ALL infos about the Laurel Canyon location are all wrongs

Francky

Well, its mailing address is Studio City and it's closer to
Ventura Blvd, but it is just off Laurel Cyn Blvd.
It's only about a few miles from the famous Laurel Cyn/Lookout Mountain/Wonderland Ave/hippie-60s scene. I believe that mailing address
is Los Angeles. Laurel Canyon's a long street, and anyone that lives
south of Ventura Blvd off of Laurel Canyon usually says they "live in Laurel Canyon." I know people that live there and say that.

From [en.wikipedia.org]:

The Rolling Stones occupied the (..) the 'Mary Astor House' in which Marilyn Manson lives today; their film, @#$%& Blues was filmed here.

Quote
Honestman
Hi Everybody's

I've found this on the rolling stones database :

691028A 28th October - 1st November: Laurel Canyon, California, basement of Stephen Stills’ house. Rehearsals for the upcoming US tour. Incl. songs played on the tour and
- Bad Boy (Eddy Taylor) -31.10.69; unverified
- Monkey Man (MJ/KR) -31.10.69; unverified

And i'm wandering if these songs has been recorded???
During these 4 days of rehearsals, we don't know if Stills joined the STONES,
and we also don't know and probably never know if these rehearsals were taped?


HMN

Very interesting quote,Honestman .

Here is what I found concerning S.Stills;

Anyway, let’s move on to yet another of Laurel Canyon’s earliest and brightest stars, Mr. Stephen Stills. Stills will have the distinction of being a founding member of two of Laurel Canyon’s most acclaimed and beloved bands: Buffalo Springfield, and, needless to say, Crosby, Stills & Nash. In addition, Stills will pen perhaps the first, and certainly one of the most enduring anthems of the 60s generation, “For What It’s Worth,” the opening lines of which appear at the top of this post (Stills’ follow-up single will be entitled “Bluebird,” which, coincidentally or not, happens to be the original codename assigned to the MK-ULTRA program).



Before his arrival in Laurel Canyon, Stephen Stills was (*yawn*) the product of yet another career military family. Raised partly in Texas, young Stephen spent large swaths of his childhood in El Salvador, Costa Rica, the Panama Canal Zone, and various other parts of Central America – alongside his father, who was, we can be fairly certain, helping to spread ‘democracy’ to the unwashed masses in that endearingly American way. As with the rest of our cast of characters, Stills was educated primarily at schools on military bases and at elite military academies. Among his contemporaries in Laurel Canyon, he was widely viewed as having an abrasive, authoritarian personality. Nothing unusual about any of that, of course, as we have already seen with the rest of our cast of characters.



There is, however, an even more curious aspect to the Stephen Stills story: Stephen will later tell anyone who will sit and listen that he had served time for Uncle Sam in the jungles of Vietnam. These tales will be universally dismissed by chroniclers of the era as nothing more than drug-induced delusions. Such a thing couldn’t possibly be true, it will be claimed, since Stills arrived on.



An interview from S.Stills talking of the Stones in 1969 is available ?



I am a Frenchie ,as Mick affectionately called them in the Old Grey Whistle Test in 1977 .

I always wondered what was going on with the Stones & Stills in the late 60's/ early 70's.

On one side they used Stills premises and jammed with him in the basement and on stage (+ later Wyman worked with him/ his musicians and Manassas).

On the other side there seems to be tension, particularly(or maybe only) concerning Keith. Ron mentioned Keith hating Stills for no clear reason.Probably it's all because of coke.

I remember a chapter in a Greenfield book about an unnamed Rockstar sitting brooding in his car outside Keith place threatening to stab Keith.That should've been Stills too.
A weird connection.

does Sam Cutler have anything to say about all this in his new book?


p

Quote
CousinC
I always wondered what was going on with the Stones & Stills in the late 60's/ early 70's.

On one side they used Stills premises and jammed with him in the basement and on stage (+ later Wyman worked with him/ his musicians and Manassas).

On the other side there seems to be tension, particularly(or maybe only) concerning Keith. Ron mentioned Keith hating Stills for no clear reason.Probably it's all because of coke.

I remember a chapter in a Greenfield book about an unnamed Rockstar sitting brooding in his car outside Keith place threatening to stab Keith.That should've been Stills too.
A weird connection.

Yes,the chapter is called "the pop star" .WhenI read the book for the first time,I thought it was Graham Parson...




Does Michael Walker talk about the Stones in his "Laurel Canyon ,The Inside Story of Rock-and-Roll's Legendary Neighborhood "?



I am a Frenchie ,as Mick affectionately called them in the Old Grey Whistle Test in 1977 .

During the winter/spring '72 sessions for Exile and rehearsels for the tour the Stones rented houses for all 5 members of the Stones plus 1 large house that was set up as the office, all in the Laurel Canyon area, and also on I believe Stone Canyon Road. There's an interview with a nanny to the Stones in these houses, and she mentioned that Keith was very scary but also the friendliest guy of the Stones, and that Taylor was a recluse at this time, being depressive and sitting at home playing guitar and doing coke all day, constantly mentioning that he wanted to quit the Stones.

Mathijs

Quote
Honestman
Hi Everybody's

I've found this on the rolling stones database :

691028A 28th October - 1st November: Laurel Canyon, California, basement of Stephen Stills’ house. Rehearsals for the upcoming US tour. Incl. songs played on the tour and
- Bad Boy (Eddy Taylor) -31.10.69; unverified
- Monkey Man (MJ/KR) -31.10.69; unverified

And i'm wandering if these songs has been recorded???
During these 4 days of rehearsals, we don't know if Stills joined the STONES,
and we also don't know and probably never know if these rehearsals were taped?


HMN

It's also on Felix Aeppli site :

Laurel Canyon, (California, US): Stephen Stills’ house (1972-10-28ff. [rehearsals])



On October 17th, the band arrived for rehearsals and cultural adjustment. In Los Angeles we rented a large, hotel-like house on Oriole above Sunset, which served as tour planning headquarters. Charlie, Shirley, and Serafina Watts stayed there, along with the worker bees. People who wanted tickets, interviews, acknowledgments, endorsements, proximity, or just to hang out came and went all day and most of the night. The phones rang incessantly.

Mick and Keith and Mick Taylor were lodged at Stephen Stills’ house in Laurel Canyon. This allowed them more privacy. Bill and Astrid rented their own house for the same reason.

GEORGIA BERGMAN



I am a Frenchie ,as Mick affectionately called them in the Old Grey Whistle Test in 1977 .

Quote
CousinC

On the other side there seems to be tension, particularly(or maybe only) concerning Keith. Ron mentioned Keith hating Stills for no clear reason.Probably it's all because of coke.

I remember a chapter in a Greenfield book about an unnamed Rockstar sitting brooding in his car outside Keith place threatening to stab Keith.That should've been Stills too.
A weird connection.

During this period, Gram PARSONS was the "Soul Brother" of Keith, and in the same time, Keith enjoyed the musician but not the man, i think for Keith, Gram was a second Brian, a heavy weight, fully destroyed by booze and drugs!
So,I'm agree with Sway , I think that the guy in the Greenfield Book was Gram
but I was not there, it's just what i think, i could be wrong.
On the other side, STILLS lived with Veronique SANSON, and she said that (STILLS)
was a ungry man not a respectable man.So it could explain why Keith hated him!

HMN

I can't remember in which Stones book I read this story about Gram Parson:
His" association" with the band was not idyllic. Gram Parsons, brilliant artist, was also a specialist of the excesses in all kind. Considered as his extraordinary consumption of drugs, he arrived regularly late in the rehearsals of his band, did not any more succeed in following the tempo of his own fragments when he downright was not cast of dead drunk stage. More than a musical partner - he was never credited on any piece of Stones song ,as you said ,honestman the pal of had especially become kick down of Richard, whose absolute fan he was. But he didn't have the bionic constitution of Keith....
Gram Parsons paid dearly the lesson henceforth known well according to which you should never try to follow Keith Richards.



I am a Frenchie ,as Mick affectionately called them in the Old Grey Whistle Test in 1977 .

There were stories at the time of the B2B recording sessions of Keith avoiding Stills (something about the latter hanging around the bathroom hoping to corner Keith??).

Quote
Mathijs
During the winter/spring '72 sessions for Exile and rehearsels for the tour the Stones rented houses for all 5 members of the Stones plus 1 large house that was set up as the office, all in the Laurel Canyon area, and also on I believe Stone Canyon Road. There's an interview with a nanny to the Stones in these houses, and she mentioned that Keith was very scary but also the friendliest guy of the Stones, and that Taylor was a recluse at this time, being depressive and sitting at home playing guitar and doing coke all day, constantly mentioning that he wanted to quit the Stones.

Mathijs

Hence the mention of Stone Canyon in 1973's Winter from GHS perhaps.

Quote
SwayStones

Quote
Honestman
Hi Everybody's

I've found this on the rolling stones database :

691028A 28th October - 1st November: Laurel Canyon, California, basement of Stephen Stills’ house. Rehearsals for the upcoming US tour. Incl. songs played on the tour and
- Bad Boy (Eddy Taylor) -31.10.69; unverified
- Monkey Man (MJ/KR) -31.10.69; unverified

And i'm wandering if these songs has been recorded???
During these 4 days of rehearsals, we don't know if Stills joined the STONES,
and we also don't know and probably never know if these rehearsals were taped?


HMN

It's also on Felix Aeppli site :

Laurel Canyon, (California, US): Stephen Stills’ house (1972-10-28ff. [rehearsals])



On October 17th, the band arrived for rehearsals and cultural adjustment. In Los Angeles we rented a large, hotel-like house on Oriole above Sunset, which served as tour planning headquarters. Charlie, Shirley, and Serafina Watts stayed there, along with the worker bees. People who wanted tickets, interviews, acknowledgments, endorsements, proximity, or just to hang out came and went all day and most of the night. The phones rang incessantly.

Mick and Keith and Mick Taylor were lodged at Stephen Stills’ house in Laurel Canyon. This allowed them more privacy. Bill and Astrid rented their own house for the same reason.

GEORGIA BERGMAN

There's an ORiole Dive and and Oriole Road, I believe.
They're above Sunset Blvd. near Blue Jay Way.
There's a few streets in that area with bird names.

Quote
Glam Descendant
There were stories at the time of the B2B recording sessions of Keith avoiding Stills (something about the latter hanging around the bathroom hoping to corner Keith??).

Were they in Dublin ?



I am a Frenchie ,as Mick affectionately called them in the Old Grey Whistle Test in 1977 .

>Were they in Dublin ?

No, Los Angeles.

Was just listening to Stephen Stills' double-album Manassas. A lovely album.
Of Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young, Young is my hero. But if I would pick one solo album by any of them I think I would pick Manassas.
The music (and words) comes so easy and naturally.

Quote
schillid

For some reason when I see this photo I am thinking...
let's see - there's Tiberius on the left followed by Nero, Commodus, Caracalla, with Gaius Ceasar in the foreground.
I dunno why.