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If you were to create a 'stones by numbers' track, as the one to pattern the archetypal stones song...one that all pretenders could try to emulate this would be it.

It has everything just inside of 4 minutes... controversy, debauchery, killer riff, audience call and response (I said yeah I said yeah I said yeah I said...WOOOOO!), and bobby keys.

It's not my favourite track but it's up there.

This is a single that sells an album.

An instant classic indeed!!!! Hard to sit still with this one!

Best song version ....






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If you were to create a 'stones by numbers' track, as the one to pattern the archetypal stones song...one that all pretenders could try to emulate this would be it.

It has everything just inside of 4 minutes... controversy, debauchery, killer riff, audience call and response (I said yeah I said yeah I said yeah I said...WOOOOO!), and bobby keys.

It's not my favourite track but it's up there.

This is a single that sells an album.

It's one of the most excellent examples of what rock'n'roll is. Possibly their best single ever.

And they liked it so much they inverted it (kinda) for Sad Sad Sad.

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If you were to create a 'stones by numbers' track, as the one to pattern the archetypal stones song...one that all pretenders could try to emulate this would be it.

It has everything just inside of 4 minutes... controversy, debauchery, killer riff, audience call and response (I said yeah I said yeah I said yeah I said...WOOOOO!), and bobby keys.

It's not my favourite track but it's up there.

This is a single that sells an album.

It's one of the most excellent examples of what rock'n'roll is. Possibly their best single ever.

And they liked it so much they inverted it (kinda) for Sad Sad Sad.

But why did they cut one round of the riff for live performances after 1971?

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If you were to create a 'stones by numbers' track, as the one to pattern the archetypal stones song...one that all pretenders could try to emulate this would be it.

It has everything just inside of 4 minutes... controversy, debauchery, killer riff, audience call and response (I said yeah I said yeah I said yeah I said...WOOOOO!), and bobby keys.

It's not my favourite track but it's up there.

This is a single that sells an album.

It's one of the most excellent examples of what rock'n'roll is. Possibly their best single ever.

And they liked it so much they inverted it (kinda) for Sad Sad Sad.

But why did they cut one round of the riff for live performances after 1971?

There's one performance (Marquee) where Keith goes around twice because Charlie didn't come in so it goes four but they've been playing it three forever.

Maybe just to get right to it? Seems odd, especially since they've been dragging it on longer and longer with each tour.

Rock N Roll doesn't get much better. I hope they resurrect the song if they tour it is a fantatic song.

Made #1 on this list of 20 top songs recorded in Muscle Shoals

20 top Muscle Shoals songs



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Made #1 on this list of 20 top songs recorded in Muscle Shoals

20 top Muscle Shoals songs

Nice! That's a tough competition there, a lot to choose from... Cannot disagree, though. Personally I would have put Dylan's "I Believe In You" at least into 'other essentials' list. One of Bob's greatest recordings I think. Probably even his strongest vocal performance ever.

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Made #1 on this list of 20 top songs recorded in Muscle Shoals

20 top Muscle Shoals songs

Nice! That's a tough competition there, a lot to choose from... Cannot disagree, though. Personally I would have put Dylan's "I Believe In You" at least into 'other essentials' list. One of Bob's greatest recordings I think. Probably even his strongest vocal performance ever.

- Doxa

The whole album is excellently recorded and mixed.

is mick taylor even on this track? also,what guitar is richards using telecaster? does'nt sound like a gibson.

Mick Taylor is only on the live versions -well- "only".

It is my favorite song.

I just read that when they played it at Altamont, it was Mick Taylor who suggested it. Never knew that.

I agree, no live version ever matched the chugging, gritty, funky, galloping roll of the studio version. It always seemed too fast in live versions. However sped up it might still be, my favorite live version is when it was the show opener (around '72 or '73). The Robert Frank film (C'sucker Blues) captures that. The best audio version of that is on a bootleg from (what I was told was) the Australian tour of that time, titled "Happy Birthday Nicky." Must have come directly off the sound board because the quality was very good for a boot. The energy is absolutely amazing. The band comes at you like a bullet train head-on and you can't help but move!

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I just read that when they played it at Altamont, it was Mick Taylor who suggested it. Never knew that.

Listen to Essen'70. Taylor understood what playing it live was all about. Just like the rest of the band.



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I just love the track. I run out of words to describe how brilliant every bit of BS is.

Why did Nirvana and "Smells Like Teen Spirit" take hold in a similar way some 20+ years after BS? I am usually stopped in my tracks whenever I hear and feel music that captures the carnal, primal nature of being a live animal. Jagger and Richards, two English gentlemen, and the group of musicians they cultivated, did just that with songs like BS and Stray Cat Blues.

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There is absolutely NO reason for posting here on IORR about playing Brown Sugar live, why, why not and all of that. That discussion is finished on IORR, for reasons given in the above post.

I will delete any such posts, and also delete posting access for those who do not respect the IORR posting policy.

Bjornulf

never heard it, interesting (first ?) version ...

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Nah... It's the CASTAGNETTE version. Heard it before. Nice though! Thanks.

Some rare pictures in the YouTube video too.

Interesting! I just listened on my phone so I’ll have to listen tomorrow on speakers. The piano sounds great!

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never heard it, interesting (first ?) version ...

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That makes sense as take 1 or whatever take it is, not the way we know it.

Hadn’t heard this one before. Enjoyed it. Hearing how a song evolves is cool.

Absolutely great. Some thoughts -the story about Jagger having the complete lyrics available from the start, including ‘skydog slaver’ is bollocks, as we all knew. Then, Jagger had the song 98% complete when they started recording it. Then, the acoustic drives this track, not the open G of Keith which is missing here, which I find quite amazing. Assuming all is live, it’s Taylor on the acoustic guitar here, or Jagger. But I doubt the latter. Judging from this one outtake it appears they kept the acoustic and overdubbed Keith’s rhythm guitar in London, and not the other way round as we assume.

Mathijs

Wow! The magic of track - the key components, tempo, drive - is already there - despite not having yet the distinctive electric Open G. I wonder if this is the riff Mick initially wrote. If so, Keith's handling of it actually just changes or develops it in nuances with his idiosyncratic feel. Makes also sense why Keith calls his own contribution as 'arrangement'. But then again, we don't know how 'early' this take is. That is, how much creative work and decisions based on Mick's initial ideas, there already is made. But yeah, it sounds VERY early, even like first band attempt or so.

- Doxa

As I suspected all along, Keith prolonged the riff over the breaks, building on what Mick had.

This is a great find and a joy to hear! It's interesting that they swapped the first and second verse. What a brilliant decision

It's hard to tell who's playing the acoustic. It could very well be Keith, too. And, as Doxa said, we don't really know where they were in the process.

I always thought the lyric is "scarred old slaver", not skydog slaver.

HBK

This sounds live off the floor without overdubs, but I will reserve my final thoughts once I listen on proper monitors.